The Secret Life Of Fairies

a reply to: penroc3

Dunno penroc, get into trouble looking in the wrong places. Especially if there is any truth to the stories about American and Russian military involvement with undersea flying saucers.

I once got curious about an alleged contactee by the name of Valerie Ransone. She apparently had an NRO connection..

There was so much psychic barbed wire and security around VR that I took one look and walked away. Even so, a tripwire must of been triggered because within minutes I was looking into the eyes of a "grey".

There must be a lot going on within the shadowy side of the American UFO shenanigans.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268


someone I know was on a tour with the marines and was on a helo boat near the Fjords and they were picking up all sorts of sounds and movement.

if I were going to hide my people away from humans id go somewhere very cold and deep underwater, as of right now there are only a few subs that can go DEEEP and they are all Russian I think, used for tapping cables and what not.


I know that people in SAP's get followed around by security for the project, maybe what you ran into is a new form of security. If I was poking my nose around places and immediately after I had an encounter with a gray I would leave it alone as well.

I always have found it odd that us humans think that other intelligent creatures will have the same 'lay out'(2 arms 2 legs and a head)

a reply to: penroc3

I was thinking earlier that your instincts are on the ball penroc. The fjords are probably the place to look. But do we really want to find "it"?

I know that people in SAP's get followed around by security for the project, maybe what you ran into is a new form of security. If I was poking my nose around places and immediately after I had an encounter with a gray I would leave it alone as well.

VR is a public figure in her own way through her seminars and public work with abductees in the 1980's and 1990's so no reason for me not to snoop in a way.

That was an odd coincidence to try and work out. I thought of a few reasons:

* VR's psychic security to stop RV'ers (Remote Viewers) from snooping on the NRO.
* VR's psychic security to stop "aliens" from snooping on the NRO.
* VR is allegedly both NRO and contactee. Which came first? The NRO operative or the contactee?

The first two points are self explanatory.

The third point is important because if the NRO is keeping itself clean of abductees/contactees for security reasons, then it logically follows that any NRO operative that becomes a contactee/abductee may be considered "compromised" and then "retired". That suggests the NRO has circles within circles of security with contactees on the outer "public" circle. "Clean" non-contactees in the know would be in the central circle. That would be a sensible security model to my mind.

The opposite may be true, but I doubt it.

That a "grey" (actually a Wednesday) pounces on me after walking away from snooping on the NRO - as one should I might add - suggests the "greys" have an interest in the NRO and bypassing NRO security.

I shouldn't really call them "greys", that is a loaded word full of "history" - I think them something else.

There is a book called The Greys Have Been Framed that deals with the pitfalls of hypnotic regression in abduction cases and why hypnotism should not be used. (I actually read the thing). Then there is the American push to paint the "aliens" as a threat. - I doubt they are.

The Greys Have Been Framed - definitely to my mind. I'm saving my story of the Wednesdays for later in this thread.

I always have found it odd that us humans think that other intelligent creatures will have the same 'lay out'(2 arms 2 legs and a head)

We can add "wearing clothes" as well.

The Beings below loch Moy used images from my own mind to design and manifest a form. A form that would had information that I understood. "Huge sleeping dragon at the door" says dangerous guardian, be polite and to step quietly. The appearance of the fairies there also matched a number of images from my memories which when put together in a form provided a lot of information without them having to say a single word.

The language of appearance is important.





Afterthought:

A gift (maybe) for the UFO intel folks: The "greys" put the (harmless) aetheric(?) trackers in the prostrate and one ovary of abductees/contactees. It looks like a spring with a long tail, the tail is within the urethra. That is redundant information now. Nevertheless it is how "they" did it.

Seers who have the eyes to see: grab the end of the tail between aetheric fingers and gently tug; the spring will unwind and come loose.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

there are mysteries down in the deep waters of the Fjord

for the story i was given, it seems there is someone down there with heavy equipment on the sea floor.

The NRO is staffed by highly educated people and to the public they just launch secret "satellites" that are TOP SECRET//

there are so many sub types of what I would call a 'gray' I feel like its calling someone white or black, lots of room for the standard (in my mind) biological robots that act as the ultimate computer brain interfaces, i could see some distant civilization sending out ships manned by droids they could connect to and disconnect and follow out their programing with no need for 'live' aliens.


as far as the NRO lady, Ingo Swan in his book Penetration, he said he was scooped up by some agency to remote view. But he also said that he saw totally human creatures, perfect specimens of a human female and male) so i could see the deeper levels of the intelligence agencies to be on the look out for people that show strange abilities or encounters.

the Russians/Soviets were big into PSY research back in the cold war and that means we had to get into remote viewing and other psy phenomena.

imagine if a psychic got into the inky black parts of some of these agencies, they spent millions apon millions on RV'ing so obviously they were getting something out of it so maybe these people who are strong RV'ers or psychic are weeded out ASAP.

I could see something other than human looking in on interviews to tell them if the person was taken or not.

i was having SUPER bad headaches and nosebleeds that made the sink look like a murder scene. I went to a special neurologist and he sent me for scans of my head.

when I went back to get the results he took my mom and myself into his office and told me that he had found a small circular(perfectly so) resting where my brain stem hooks to my spinal cord.

i thought he was messing with me until he pulled the image up on the screen in his office, I dealt with al that for about a year and as a check up they scanned me again and the small BB was gone and I felt better.

so who knows what that was all about.


i would assume the heads of the NRO, CIA, FBI etc are looked over by more that just human eyes.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

It keeps on being an interesting thread, I see many parallels in what I figured out for myself. Sometimes while reading or reflecting, tangent thoughts or out of the blue phrases pop into my mind. I hope you don't mind spamming your thread with them.

God's kingdom is a walled city.

"they" did it.

Seers who have the eyes to see: grab the end of the tail between aetheric fingers and gently tug; the spring will unwind and come loose.

I think these etheric devices can be installed in every chakra if access is granted.

Eta
In another thread I just got reminded, of a thread, that this thread here made me think twice already.

this thread

a reply to: Terpene

I think these etheric devices can be installed in every chakra if access is granted.

Very close to the physical and have organic design, inserted with a very organic design organ too.

I think you would find that there was never an "access is granted" either. I doubt anyone would give it as informed consent. There is also the abduction aspect to take into consideration.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

if all blocks are in place the only chakra accessible is the root chakra. I have never felt a horizontal intrusion, always bottom up.

these devices if instaled by humans leaf, like a genetic marker of its creator, a simple cho ku rei can bring them some unpleasent back to sender experience.
Maybe genetically identical greys makes it impossible to track the creators of these devices.

a reply to: penroc3

there are mysteries down in the deep waters of the Fjord. for the story i was given, it seems there is someone down there with heavy equipment on the sea floor.

The NRO is staffed by highly educated people and to the public they just launch secret "satellites" that are TOP SECRET//

and probably good people to stay away from . . .

there are so many sub types of what I would call a 'gray' I feel like its calling someone white or black, lots of room for the standard (in my mind) biological robots that act as the ultimate computer brain interfaces, i could see some distant civilization sending out ships manned by droids they could connect to and disconnect and follow out their programing with no need for 'live' aliens.

Yeah, the tendency to generalize is a mental lazyness in many ways, and there are probably different ones. The difficulty is finding the opportunity to sit down with another person who has observed the same thing and then compare notes.

The perceptual clouding by preconceptions would play a part. For instance the Wednesdays I am used to and she can sit on my knee like a child. Yet another person would run from the room screaming. We would have very different descriptions.

The avatar concept has merit, the fairy twin is an avatar when it is all said and done. The Wednesdays are purpose designed and built avatars that are organic technology.

as far as the NRO lady, Ingo Swan in his book Penetration, he said he was scooped up by some agency to remote view. But he also said that he saw totally human creatures, perfect specimens of a human female and male) so i could see the deeper levels of the intelligence agencies to be on the look out for people that show strange abilities or encounters.

the Russians/Soviets were big into PSY research back in the cold war and that means we had to get into remote viewing and other psy phenomena.

From a thread here on ATS I recall that Swan said the were more interesting things to look at than Russian submarines. I would agree with Swan. Personally I would rather share a meal with my girls than look at what some foreign country is doing.

imagine if a psychic got into the inky black parts of some of these agencies, they spent millions apon millions on RV'ing so obviously they were getting something out of it so maybe these people who are strong RV'ers or psychic are weeded out ASAP.

I wonder if things would really work like that. I'd wager the people over at the (American) Office of Naval Intelligence study dowsing and that sort of thing to help with their work. Everyone wants to be successful.

I could see something other than human looking in on interviews to tell them if the person was taken or not.

Maybe, one would have to be on the inside to know.

i was having SUPER bad headaches and nosebleeds that made the sink look like a murder scene. I went to a special neurologist and he sent me for scans of my head.

when I went back to get the results he took my mom and myself into his office and told me that he had found a small circular(perfectly so) resting where my brain stem hooks to my spinal cord.

i thought he was messing with me until he pulled the image up on the screen in his office, I dealt with al that for about a year and as a check up they scanned me again and the small BB was gone and I felt better.

so who knows what that was all about.

I've seen some odd things in people, the oddest was what looked like acupuncture needles at the base of the brain. They reminded me of moxibustion acupuncture processes. Someone in another thread spoke of the headaches and bleeding. Someone close to me had it too. I wonder how common it is.

i would assume the heads of the NRO, CIA, FBI etc are looked over by more that just human eyes.

Wouldn't that imply the agencies are in cahoots with the owners of the non human eyes?

a reply to: Terpene

if all blocks are in place the only chakra accessible is the root chakra. I have never felt a horizontal intrusion, always bottom up.

these devices if instaled by humans leaf, like a genetic marker of its creator, a simple cho ku rei can bring them some unpleasent back to sender experience.
Maybe genetically identical greys makes it impossible to track the creators of these devices.

Honestly Terps, I would not try to understand these things in terms of "chakras", nor conventional spiritual occult thought. The urethra is not a chakra, nor is the prostrate nor the ovaries.

Edit: How to explain life engineering . . .

Take a spermatozoon. The spermatozoon has a physical body and an aetheric (life force) body - a double.

Separate the two and discard the physical aspect.

Re-engineer the aetheric double of the spermatozoon and grow them in the thousands if you want. Grow them from microscopic to inches in length. Make them with enough intelligence to follow instructions.

The re-engineered spermatozoon would still belong to the donor genetically and energetically speaking.

Consider too that the inside of the urethra and the prostrate gland are topologically outside the body of the recipient. Seers/clairvoyants will miss these things because the seer/clairvoyant looks at the person and not at what is contained within the cavities of the body.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

these organs are not the chakra, yet somehow linked. maybe the chakra is more like a gate, to a certain plain in charge of manifesting a certain idea.
the organs and the chakras location and their occult meaning, have interesting paralleles

im not sure what the conventional spiritual occult thought is anyways.

a reply to: Terpene

Ah, I am no expert on chakrum, and really, in the study of fairies, elementals and other similar Beings chakrum don't come into the picture. Humans have chakras (apparently), so I have read and been told by other humans anyway.

The trick with the trackers is they are within a cavity and therefore outside and unconnected with the body.

im not sure what the conventional spiritual occult thought is anyways.

I never grok'd "spiritual" either, and the teachings so far have not coincided with experience, for me anyways. So I ignore the philosophies.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

The US government would HAVE to at least be in some sort of communication with the various players who seem to do as they choose(the non humans).

There was a movie called the THE FORGOTTEN that was super interesting and I wont ruin it, in the movie the NSA acted almost like a clean up crew for whatever was in control. Very dark movie, but amazing.



the real question is what do you think the government might be willing to do keep the fact these things exist a secret?

With RV'ing, I believe it exists but not like what people think. Ingo's book was very illuminating when he said they would just sit around chat and smoke cigs and jot stuff down. and as strange as it sounds that situation seems far more legit than a person wearing gypsy clothing and a crystal ball.


I have only had Deja je vu twice and I know they say it is your memory hiccupping but it was the craziest thing watch time repeat itself.

a reply to: penroc3



amazing interview with one of the greats that are no longer with us.

Karla Turner Ph.D inspired a major plot line in the Xfiles because the writes thought she was beyond reproach

a reply to: penroc3

The US government would HAVE to at least be in some sort of communication with the various players who seem to do as they choose(the non humans).

The humans seem to do as they please too penroc : )

the real question is what do you think the government might be willing to do keep the fact these things exist a secret?

I dunno really, perhaps: "whatever is necessary" ?

With RV'ing, I believe it exists but not like what people think. Ingo's book was very illuminating when he said they would just sit around chat and smoke cigs and jot stuff down. and as strange as it sounds that situation seems far more legit than a person wearing gypsy clothing and a crystal ball.

Two of us used to get on the telephone and look at things together. That is all it was; two (or more) RVers looking at the same target at the same time. Chat, coffee, smokes. Some targets were observable only and non interactive. Other targets were real time and interactive. Some were just sightseeing for fun.

Karla Turner was interesting. I also listened to her mufon lecture. A lot of that was familiar.

The Wednesdays are interesting to me as there are similarities with the human/fairy relationship discussed in this thread.

The Wednesdays are technological in their design. Like walking talking organic computer machine scientist. My original Wednesday is a bio-engineer (as well as my adopted granddaughter ; ) who can, for instance; take a sample of organic substance, analyse, disassemble and then reassemble into a new protein in her stomach. Then spit it up into your hands.

The Wednesdays have the fairy ancestral physiology underneath the engineered organs. My suspicion is the Wednesdays were originally fairies who have been caught up in foul play. Perhaps because of the fairy's ability to create inhabitable avatars.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

spitting up proteins is definitely a neat trick, like a 3d printer for organics.


maybe the Wednesdays are repairmen/doctors. If these creatures have even a simi organic body they will need health care from someone. I imagine even creatures of high strangeness have accidents too.



I really expect to wake up when I die as an old man into my real self, and i wonder if another 'game' it would be us becoming an alien

a reply to: penroc3

spitting up proteins is definitely a neat trick, like a 3d printer for organics.

Kinda like that.

maybe the Wednesdays are repairmen/doctors. If these creatures have even a simi organic body they will need health care from someone. I imagine even creatures of high strangeness have accidents too.

repairmen/doctors? dunno.

The Wednesdays are organic technology. Where we build machines, someone else grows their machines. Wednesday is bio-engineer, geneticist and she is also a living fertility clinic. Probably more I don't know about.

She was also there when I was taken at about five years. So a lot older than I am. She offered to show me what they did to me back then. I declined because I felt it would change my perception of her.

The "adopted granddaughter" was a tactical thing.

When I turned my back on VR that evening, I went outside to put the bin out on the roadside for collection. That is when the lights appeared straight out of that movie Close Encounters. That raised a flag for me.

Then a floating yellow grey who announced "We are all one". Second flag. I replied "Oh no we're not" and walked off. The grey caught up and got very close to my face, eight inches or so. That moment was straight out of the underwater alien movie The Abyss. Third flag.

She also tried something with her eyes like Mesmerism. Fourth flag.

I walked off again.

"We are interested in your research" Fifth flag.

Me: "F#$% OFF!"

Went inside and turned on television leaving grey outside.

Two or three weeks later she shows up with the memories of a human girl of about eight or nine. Great, I can't get angrey with her now.

We spent time together, and one day she stands on the chair, leans over the table and says smilingly and quite daringly I thought: "I want to make you my doll" (Mental image of my head opened up and her happily playing with the contents).

So I promptly adopted her as my granddaughter as a tactical countermeasure. Granddaughter/grandfather relationships are well defined and do not involve strange little girls opening up my head. This is how I play "the game" with them.

That is how they got the name Wednesday Addams. In the Addams Family TV series the daughter had a headless Marie Antoinette doll.

That was couple of years ago now. We still play that game of the precocious little girl twisting her grandfather around her little finger while I play the doting grandfather. I have grown quite fond of them.

I was going to go into the "greys" later in this thread, but hey, what the hell.

Here is a Karla Turner lecture at MUFON on the abduction phenomenon. It is worth listening to, I think so anyway. I won't make a comment on the video itself.

However, I will say my first experience of greys was at about five years old. My bed was lifted into the air and violently shaken until I was screaming and then a swirl of stars appeared on the left side of the bed. The bed then tipped me into the stars. That was the last thing I remembered.

After, with fairy assistance I remembered a grey looking me in the eyes and saying "you won't remember what happens next". So it has not been all fun and games for me. That said I am of the opinion that it is worth putting aside my biases and learning more.

When it is all said and done, to stop the abductions one must learn the 'why' in order to find the solution. One must also understand them.



I like to study is the other point of view. The alien view.

In my own case, when the yellow grey was told to "f-off", they went away and did their homework and came back prepared. The memories of the human girl changed the dynamics of the encounter to put me at a disadvantage. The counter of adoption put into place a set of rules re-balancing the dynamics.

I do the same thing with the fae and fairy folk; we play games. Children learn through games, and so do I.

Over time Wednesday visited often and we got to know each other. One of the things I noticed in Wednesday was a hidden loneliness. That was interesting. The question was "why was she lonely?" It did not make sense.

It turned out that the human girl had an older brother she adored. Wednesday inherited more than just memories of events. Wednesday also inherited the emotional life of the girl. That included missing her older brother.

Through the fairy folk it was not difficult to track down the missing brother's memories. So with permission we installed the brother's memories into a 'blank' yellow grey that was in Wednesday's group. So:

A gift for her an older brother, a gift for him a little sister.

They remembered each other. This had a huge effect on them both.

What we achieved was the introduction of a sibling relationship. I am reasonably certain to sayw: this was entirely new to them.

Over time having siblings became a fad in Wednesday's group and all thirty or so now have siblings. Up until now I have not thought about this too much and have not discussed it with the Wednesdays. Yet I know from observation that there is now a sense of empathy present that was not there in the first meeting.

This is why I often say: the most important things in life are growing up in a family, falling in love for the first time, first broken heart. Falling in love again, having children and a family of our own.

So I will end this post with a question:

What do we have that the "aliens" do not?

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

what do you make of stories of gray types floating in tanks of apparent bodily fluids extracted from cows and humans as a way of transdermal feeding.


when my mom was preg. with my sister she went to a female reverend who had legit second sight/psychic. My dad being the hard nosed sceptic took his (dead) Fathers NYC detective badge wrapped up in tissue paper and than placed in a small hard box AKA no way to tell what was in there.

my dad told my mom if she couldnt tell him what was in the box they were out of there. Needless to say she not only knew what was in the box but the badge number as well and this was all before the internet and my parents gave her a fake last name so there was no way she could research them


Now i said my mom was pregnant with my sister at the time and my mom and dad had a very hard time getting me and my sister and my mom had at least one bad misarrange. My grandmother also had a very rough time with pregnancies and lost a child as well, and now that my sister is an adult of child bearing age RIGHT when she started to try to get pregs she all of a sudden 'acquired' an EXTREAM case of scaring and endometriosis to the point she had to have a big operation.

Back to the Reverend, My mom and dad didn't tell her that my mom was pregs and the lady said there was a woman with a mans name and my moms dad congratulating her on her new baby girl and that she was a very very old soul.

my sister has been an old lady her whole life and uber on top of things she is a MD and a professor and Buffalo University here in NY. I was in the medical field until I got burned out and had the opportunity to personally save peoples life. Its amazing watching a body gasp for that first breath and watching the color come back.


i come from a family of soldiers and doctors(sometimes both at the same time) so I think its funny that my sister and I have had strange events happen together and appart that range from UFO's to odd lucid dreams talking to dead members of out family in dreams to seeing shadow people.(I assure you that we are both sane as a human can be).

but I find it interesting looking back at my family history and I think what ever I have taken an interest in has been with my family ALONG time and I am just the first person to figure what it was and the ability to accept it.


I could see if when my family is long gone and forgotten that if we exist as some other form when we die or can inhabit other bodies, I would miss my family very deeply and if a living person helped me get to my family after god knows how long we have been apart would certainly buy my favor with that human.

that being said and I'm sure you're totally aware of what gas lighting is(its a really dark form of manipulation). Clearly you have a close connection with some of these creatures but how sure can you be that it is in your best interest to allow them to sit on your lap?

a year or so ago I kept having a dream of being taken by USAF and what I would call totally biological(not a drone) female gray waiting for me and she is dressed in this iridescent flight suit for lack of better description.

When I saw her I wasn't scared at all and was in fact very glad to see her and we apparently have known each other for ALONG time, the conversation flowed like old friends with the chemistry of a high school crush and she always gives me a tour of where ever we are(usually a beach on what looks like another planet)

in my dream her and I engage in some good old fashion cross pollination and during that act I snapped out of what ever state I was in and realized my friend was to the next of me VERY close with a hand on my head and when I looked what I was having relations with, it looked like a Borg jell-o mold with three levels and a 'receiving port''

when I recoiled in horror and anger at having been lied to or at the very least tricked into providing a DNA sample i could have given freely I got very mad and upset.

as soon as she realized I knew what was going on my welcome had worn out and was quickly ushered to a glowing door and when I go into the light I always wake up in bed, and its the same sequence of events every time I see her but they may take place in a different location that always seems to be off earth.

and that's when I learned to not trust my eyes when they are around because they can obviously effect out judgement and perceptions.

real friends don't keep secrets or pull nasty tricks/games, I don't scare easy. I have had people shooting at me, been hit with small pieces of shrapnel, and I have even parachuted into the desert at night knowing there were people looking for us and the person we were there to get. I feel like I have a pretty good 'spider sense', that little voice in your gut has saved my life at least two times I KNOW of, and these things seem to like to scare us, and at least for me are very good at it.

maybe its for kicks, see how wound up they can get the silly humans. During the height of my high strangeness I would wake up outside in only my boxers and one time I woke up with the wrong clothing on(things I have never seen) and it was clearly women's PJ's(I still have them in a zip lock bag). The craziest thing other than seeing one up close was one night I woke up as I was falling out of bed and when I hit the floor I realized I had hit my own bed from a good height, enough to wake up my GF at the time.

on the other hand from what you say it seems like they want a relationship with is, so I don't understand the games. They seem to have you pegged as far as emotional control(Wednesdays). If these creatures are coming to visit you they are doing so for their own agenda and anything else good that comes out of it I believe is just a happy mistake.

Friends don't use cloak and dagger tactics, fear, and emotional blackmail to get their way and is not a good way to deal with humans.




beware of strangers with gifts.

ETA: i would guess that we have souls and they don't. at least not like ours. We are part of creation and our friends are made but mortal hands

a reply to: penroc3

Tell me penroc, have you ever met a person who truly did not have an ulterior motive or an agenda of their own?

That pretty girl in the little black dress at the nightclub with the oh so alluring smile? The fella at your door with the big smile and hearty handshake, and oh look, is that a vacuum cleaner he is holding?

Try and find a truly honest human being.

Personally, I don't expect that of anyone, so why would I expect that of "folks" that visit here?

I wonder, if "they" are non-human visitors from elsewhere who have studied the human race, then it follows they would learn all about deception and manipulation as normal and acceptable methods of interaction between humans. They may also learn about violent interaction too.

It is said that the world is a game. To be successful in employment, you have to learn to play the game at the workplace. Politics is a game, diplomacy is a game. The former is the art of lying, the latter is the art of deception.

So when a disappointingly flat chested Nordic looking female sits in my car, I am not gonna jump it. I have glimpsed the mind behind the B-cups, no thanks. It thought I liked more modest boobs on a female. It was wrong, actually I think Nordic types should be buxom lassies. They should be Oktoberfest girls. Getting the boobs wrong doesn't stop me being civilised.

Now, (not so) young Wednesday Addams is a curiosity. She is also an opportunity to understand something unusual. So what if we play a game. Games always have rules. Break the rules, and you loose. A pretty simple concept really.

When I have to deal with something more intelligent than I am, I try to think outside the box. Wednesday had a reason to visit, she would not be there otherwise. That is a no-brainer. So what did she want? Well that was a "taste" of me. To get that she contrived a situation where her "grandfather" would receive a kiss on the cheek as a reward for a kindness. When she leaned over to give that kiss she hit that invisible boundary and was stopped.

She wanted a sample to analyse - sweat? That is when I learned about her internal anatomy and physiology. I learned a lot about those Beings that day. Especially the analysis process.

You got the 3D printer right penroc. She can do that sure. She is more than that though. I watched two networks of Wednesdays encounter each other one time.

To upload and download information between networks they had a two day orgy. A real "WTF" moment, and "where the hell did you hide THAT?" The usual place (internally) apparently, Wednesday is not shy. Why would she be?

I use a term occasionally: The language of appearance. Appearance is basically a game of charades. The policeman wears a uniform to give him authority and defines his role. It is said that clothes maketh the man. It can also be said that clothes maketh the lie.

When I decide to mow my orchard and I see a fairy appearing as a small human girl crying "my flowers, my flowers". I am well aware we are playing charades. The fairy's message is "please wait until after the flowers have set seed". If she is not good at talking, then it has to be charades.

Friends don't use cloak and dagger tactics, fear, and emotional blackmail to get their way and is not a good way to deal with humans.

beware of strangers with gifts.

Most of the "girls" are not friends as such, they are familiar acquaintances primarily.

Actually, I have received very few gifts, well none I can think of really. Everything is hard work and lots of it.

I have not encountered the cloak and dagger or fear as manipulative except maybe that onetime as a kid. And I have to admit that when I have been fooled it is due to my own shortcomings in understanding them.

The question for me is; are the Wednesdays actually fae? Or are they based on the fairy/human relationship I have described early in this thread.

I think there is a correspondence between the two. If so, then the question is who has duplicated the fairy method and adapted it to an organic avatar technology.

If one can make organic avatars for singles, then there is nothing to say the same technology cannot be used to create huge avatars that are the equivalent of cities.

The Wednesdays may just hold the key to these questions.





Edit to add:

They seem to have you pegged as far as emotional control(Wednesdays).

That is a language thing. We set it up that way. I find the purely intellectual approach does not work (except with the flat chested nordic types).

I find there is far more achieved thinking with the heart than can ever be achieved by thinking with the head.

a reply to: penroc3

Just noticed your ETA.

ETA: i would guess that we have souls and they don't. at least not like ours. We are part of creation and our friends are made but mortal hands

I dunno penroc, "souls" that is. Do souls exist? If so, how would we know we had such a thing, and how would we ascertain that "they" don't have one of those things?

I know we have a subconscious mind. But I think we are fairly unique in that respect.

So, how would one psychologically understand something that does not have a subconscious mind? Jungian and Freudian psychology would have to go out the window . . .