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a reply to: Peeple

From my observations I've seen lots of reasonable people behaving in a reasonable manner and taking reasonable precautions which are reasonable for them.

The extremists have chosen to entrench themselves into their positions and are doing their best to show the world their very worst traits because they are obnoxious people who have found a new excuse to be obnoxious.

It's almost like someone, somewhere knew all about human nature and they're using it against us.
Got to keep up those divisions. We haven't quite fractured our societies to the point of no return.....yet.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme
"The smarter one gives up" and that's total brainwash.

Because if the smart ones back down, the dumb will reign. Passive acceptance is acceptance, too.

There are valid reasons to just nod, smile and think "idiot" but not when it's about personal rights. If not, we soon wear 3 masks on our faces, protective googles, latex clothes (wouldn't mind that!) to go pick up the mail from the street side.

The same with nighly curvews. It's conditioning the people to accept being told when to leave or not to leave your house. I would propose that those who fear for their lives can stay @ home after 8pm. Because we all know, after sundown, the virus get's deadlier, especially when the % of roaming people is lower than over the course of the day.

This is just my own opinion, everyone is entitled to their own.

a reply to: jerich0

I'm not the one who makes you decide to stay at home. You're invited to join whenever you feel like it and I keep my distance if that's what you want.
You are the one imposing on my right to leave my house and live.
I don't believe that's a smart way to handle it.

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Peeple

Nobody is telling you to be afraid of the virus. It's about minimizing the risk of transmission. But yeah, some people exaggerate their prevention measures.

What a shame that transmission is not at all controlled by either wearing a soggy germladen face rag nor by having the injection, which is basically just a novel drug to maybe reduce symptoms ( if you are one of the very few to even get any).
I feel I have to enlighten those that either don't understand the science behind it or believe the wrong thing behind their decisions.
I am like a Terrier, I won't stop.
Being a sucker is a choice but I don't take advice from one, nor do I want to be discriminated against by those who have no idea what they are talking about.
I do have relevant scientific experience, so I won't listen to my idiot neighbour and just suck it up.
That's not how we got out of caves.
I have very shocking, easy to understand counter arguments they can't win against. They can ignore them, but they WILL hear them. Maybe they will niggle away at them slowly as they hear more and more.
It's accumulative.

The mask is not magic, you are the one who believed it would stop the virus and then you found it didn't work that way.

The mask is one of many elements that work together to prevent spreading of the virus but it wasn't suppose to stop it like a magic charm.

Now, if you don't like the mask, the only option you have is staying away from people who that don't desire cross
contamination.

The vaccine...., that's another story. With all the bad stories about it, I started to think that could be just a placebo.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: jerich0

I'm not the one who makes you decide to stay at home. You're invited to join whenever you feel like it and I keep my distance if that's what you want.
You are the one imposing on my right to leave my house and live.
I don't believe that's a smart way to handle it.

Go to a police station and extend to them your invitation. Reasoning is not always possible and sometimes more convincing methods are necessary to reach an understanding.

a reply to: Trueman

But that's not what this is about. This is about responsible adults making their own choices.
You equate that with crime. Think about that.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Trueman

But that's not what this is about. This is about responsible adults making their own choices.
You equate that with crime. Think about that.

I don't know where are you located but here in NJ :

A violation of this subsection is a crime of the second degree if it occurs during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. The actor shall be strictly liable upon proof that the crime occurred, in fact, during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. It shall not be a defense that the actor did not know that there was a declared period of emergency at the time the crime occurred.

Click the link for full information and I promise you'll find out it's a crime.

www.lawfareblog.com...

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Peeple
Masks are the same. They minimize spread, they mitigate the risk. That's it.

Yeah... not really...

The reality is, masks are maybe only a tiny, fractionally bit better than no mask when it comes to spreading the virus, but, those wearing them have a dramatically increased risk of getting sick if exposed (because the mask concentrates and increases the exposure), and at the same time dramatically (when worn for long periods as recommended) lower the wearers immune system through multiple factors, (reduced oxygen levels, increased CO2 levels, inducement of fear, etc etc).

So, no, the risks associated with mask wearing far, far outweigh any perceived benefit, regardless of what the MSM talking heads (including the so-called medical experts) would have you believe.

a reply to: Trueman

So you're openly admitting you work for the oppressive state? For free even I bet.
Not even aware that is what you're doing?
Sometimes laws are bs.
Just because 'the State' does it is it right, given to us by some over-daddy.
People in power are just people. People are assholes sometimes. We are all a little asshole.

People are dying we know that. Vaccine won't work as intended we saw that coming. It's a serious situation, we all get that.
How long is this an emergency?
It's just enough and not working. People lose everything. Everybody's life has pretty much ended. For what?
Yet the thing does exactly what a coronavirus does. Jolly mutating always 1 step ahead of Pharma.
Who are profiting nicely from this emergency.

But it's punks like me who are the criminals.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Peeple

Nobody is telling you to be afraid of the virus. It's about minimizing the risk of transmission. But yeah, some people exaggerate their prevention measures.

If we consider it in its completeness...this is a living pleomorphic bacteria existing in viral size and being transported in fluidic conduits....now viral size means the Masks dont stop it right ?...yes....however....because it needs a FLUIDIC CONDUIT or transport it must travel in a larger than viral size in most cases...hence...the Mask although it cannot stop viral sized things can stop the larger fluidic conduits that the bacteria travels in thereby REDUCING THE RISK OF TRANSMISSION CONSIDERABLY.

The bigger picture however looks slightly different...because....we are never going to stop this bug until we stop the pleomorphic bacteria from getting into us as a bacteria then morphing down to viral and fungal sizes........masks will never stop it only slow transmission in its viral size ....but when we do stop it all colds and flus will be gone for good.... because there is no such thing as a virus and this pleomorphic bacteria is the only living thing that can travel in viral size within fluidic conduits and threaten us all with lightening fast unstoppable transmission.Once we schwack the pleomorphic bacteria we schwack all the diseases flus and colds.

Its important to know why you do something isnt it ?

Will a mask prevent you from getting a cold ?....no....will it reduce the chances of you sucking in small droplets of fluid expelled by other People in close proximity to you ?.... yes of course.

Is a cold viral sized...of course because its a pleomorphic bacteria that is alive .... but can it exit the body and infect another person in that exact viral size ?....nope..... it needs to hitch-hike within a protective FLUIDIC CONDUIT.

Does a Mask stop larger than viral sized fluidic conduits ?....yes it does.

You do the math then make an educated decision.

a reply to: one4all


That's just crap.

you do you, i support your choice. but if i see you out in public not wearing a mask i'm not gonna get too close to you

a reply to: Peeple

Well, words doesn't seem to be enough, just watch the videos :

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Peeple

Well, words doesn't seem to be enough, just watch the video :

These are great educational videos.... I sincerely hope regular people or the masses are getting a good taste of suppression....because things are at a breaking point and they now have to pick a side.

The legality of what is being done in many cases is in question....all normal checks and balances have been abbrogated....the People FAR OUTNUMBER THE POLICE........things are being done....forcing or coercing someone to get a vaccine is tantamount to attempted-1st degree murder......trying to ENFORCE sanctions against an entire Population is a clear and obvious NO-WIN SITUATION.....so who and why ?

If you asked everyone man woman and child to step outside of their homes and hold their Bic lighters up in the air at night.... then had every last civic employee Police-Sherrif-By-Law Officer -Military.....all parade through the streets you would get an idea of how infantessimally useless and truly few and powerless they are .....and that little piss-ant of a terrorist group is gong to control an entire Population ?.....impossible...silly....reeeediculous.

If you consider The Great Virus Lie....and that this is what they are trying to optimize before its blown out of the water so to speak..... then these people are responsible directly for BILLIONS OF DEATHS.....these are quite literally the worst human beings to ever walk the face of the Planet.

Once people figure out its just a naturally occuring pleomorphic bacteria that has been intentionally farmed into us and used to control us....then The Great Virus Lie is over....cancer is gone...flus and colds are gone...all illnesses are gone....using just natural food/plant based items.

If you asked everyone man woman and child to step outside of their homes and hold their Bic lighters up in the air at night....

...you would be considered a climate terrorist, freedom terrorist and also responsible for the suffering of every kid that burns itself either on the flame, or the metal shielding.

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Peeple

Nobody is telling you to be afraid of the virus. It's about minimizing the risk of transmission. But yeah, some people exaggerate their prevention measures.

What a shame that transmission is not at all controlled by either wearing a soggy germladen face rag nor by having the injection, which is basically just a novel drug to maybe reduce symptoms ( if you are one of the very few to even get any).
I feel I have to enlighten those that either don't understand the science behind it or believe the wrong thing behind their decisions.
I am like a Terrier, I won't stop.
Being a sucker is a choice but I don't take advice from one, nor do I want to be discriminated against by those who have no idea what they are talking about.
I do have relevant scientific experience, so I won't listen to my idiot neighbour and just suck it up.
That's not how we got out of caves.
I have very shocking, easy to understand counter arguments they can't win against. They can ignore them, but they WILL hear them. Maybe they will niggle away at them slowly as they hear more and more.
It's accumulative.

The mask is not magic, you are the one who believed it would stop the virus and then you found it didn't work that way.

The mask is one of many elements that work together to prevent spreading of the virus but it wasn't suppose to stop it like a magic charm.

Now, if you don't like the mask, the only option you have is staying away from people who that don't desire cross
contamination.

The vaccine...., that's another story. With all the bad stories about it, I started to think that could be just a placebo.

I really cannot belive you, of ALL posters, are ok with being this heavy-handed toward others. You already tested positive and survived it fine, and if memory serves, weren't you one of our posters trying to hide a severe health issue from your family? Asking because context counts -- if I'm remembering the right person, a high-risk poster caught the rona, has a bad cold stint, and lived.

And effectiveness of SHOTS is what you're thinking is placebo? Be more objective, man. You caught it, and won. I can link your OWN thread if you want, it proves you can catch it and get over it fine without haranguing others for the Bubble Boy coddle.

a reply to: Trueman

And that makes it okay, authoritarian police state is great if they show you vids that make you feel superior?
Or what was the take away I should have gotten?

I'm not saying it's pretty, I disagree with so many people, so many feel stupid to me, you have to accept that.
But all of us have reasons to be as we are.
The woman in the first video was at melting point looking for trouble.
That's not pretty too. Your dream come true has that effect on others.
People are people, they don't want to be like you they might not want to behave as you want them to.
It's still their decision. They need to live a little.
You can count small businesses, the suicides, music industry middle class, and a lot more as hits I'd say.
It's really hurting people. Your 'protection'.

I am not afraid of this virus, they want us afraid of lots of diseases, but do not remove the chemistry in the foods that make us susceptable to these diseases and conditions. In fact, most times these chemistries are considered GRAS and even promoted as health foods by people that are brainwashed to think they are healthy for everyone.

a reply to: Nyiah

I got infected by a person like you that didn't want to follow the regulations. The thread about my health issues has nothing to do.

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Trueman

It's about I decide what risk I want to take or not and for what.

No because if you expose yourself, get infected and then walk around, you are putting at risk other people's health. You have no right to do that.

Were you this concerned about people's health two years ago? And did you wear a mask or do anything at all because of your concern? Be honest.