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On the other hand, people should also be able to tell if another person has or hasn't been vaccinated.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: gortex
I am going to flat out say this, and my apologies for anyone who feels I have slapped them: if you support a vaccine ID or passport you are a raging idiot.
It does nothing but tell folks that you won't get quite as sick as you would otherwise. And folks don't really understand this because they are either freaking stupid, or they are authoritarian fascists. I have no use for either.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
I get it, you feel silly wearing a mask, and you resent the mean old government telling you what to wear, but this is the real world, not some bubble wrapped safe space.
originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: Bigburgh
They'll have to get me a TV that works first.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies If you don't want to be near somebody who hasn't been vaccinated then that should also be your choice.
originally posted by: gortex
Most Britons.
This is what years of watching soap opera's and reality TV does to the brain , 62% of cloven hoofed Brits think that as over half of the country has now been vaccinated it would be jolly fine if we have to produce our passes to get into recreational venues , there was me thinking we fought a war to stop that happening but now it's an acceptable price to pay.
A survey by Ipsos MORI of more than 8,300 people aged over 16 in the UK found 78% were in favour of vaccine passports to travel abroad or to visit a relative living in a care home.
Support was also high for using the document to see a loved one in hospital (74%), or to go to the theatre or an indoor concert (68%), and for gym use or leisure centre use (63%).
Around 61% of those who responded also backed their use to attend open-air music concerts and sports events, while 58% said they would accept having to use them on public transport.
news.sky.com...
I know , why don't we make the un-vaccinated wear a black cross on their arm.
Papers please !
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: gortex
I'm going to say the same thing here as I say everywhere: The important thing is that people are allowed to make an educated choice. Which means that they should be given access to all of the relevant information.
On one hand this means that people should be able to access vaccine data so that they can decide for themselves whether or not they think the vaccine poses a greater risk to them than Covid. So they can choose to have it or not.
On the other hand, people should also be able to tell if another person has or hasn't been vaccinated. So that they can also make an educated decision on whether than person poses a risk to them.
It's all about choice. If you don't want to be vaccinated then you should have that choice. If you don't want to be near somebody who hasn't been vaccinated then that should also be your choice.
we fought a war to stop that happening
I understand the basic sentiment behind this statement ... but I think that it's a little bit of a stretch to compare a vaccine card to a genocidal totalitarian regime that killed tens of millions of people.
While Britain hasn't had ID cards since the war, vaccine cards actually stuck around a lot longer. British people used to need to show evidence of vaccinations before they were allowed to travel internationally up until quite recently, and some destinations still require them.
The last time I needed to get a residency permit I had to show proof of vaccinations, as well as evidence that I didn't have any STD or communicable diseases. So these things still exist in a lot of the world.
originally posted by: putnam6
Pretty soon we are gonna be segregated by the vaccinated and the non-vaccinated.