Senator Marco Rubio Let's I.D. The UFO's Flying Over Military Bases

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Did you read my post at all?

Mach 5 is 3836mph

A ICBM returning to earth is 15,000+ mph


The tic tac went 55,000 + mph

Nearly 4x the speed of an ICBM warhead rocketing towards it's final destination designed to be too fast for ANYTHING to intercept it...

4x as fast

I don't think you understand how fast 55,000mph is in our atmosphere... The atmospheric friction alone would cause it to disintegrate into nothing... Let alone stop on a dime

What your desribing is impossible the aircraft would store so much heat it would be hotter than the sun. You are aware however it is now believed the go fast video was a baloon. The gimble its mounted on gave it a fake volocity, And the fact it is not where they thought it was the video tells us it was actually moving very slowly. When you read the camera information you can see what it really is.

No, not impossible at all. Just because you cannot explain it doesn't mean it's impossible. It's possible alright, it's happening!

a reply to: neoholographic

Tha person did not get a response because they did not watch the video. The airplane never crosses its path you can see it from the instruments on the camera, It was using zoom to see the object meaning it was still in the distance watch the video. The effect only works if you percieve it to be a distance it is not our brains will naturally fill in the gaps. What you see in paralax is well known by movie directors you can simulate motion when none exists. Bottom line its a camera so its effects are well known.

a reply to: dragonridr

His Parallax explanation is just nonsense. Parallax is what happens when you see a plane as you drive by and it looks like it's hovering in the sky. Even though it looks like it's hovering, you're position relative to the object changes.

Parallax doesn't mean an object that barely moving is going to track and move with and object that's moving much faster. That's just asinine. Here's some examples.





Here's an explanation of Parallax:



The guy in the video is using parallax in his own made up way. Parallax doesn't mean if you lock onto an object that's moving slow or not at all it will appear to move at the same speed as the plane. That's nonsense.

Parallax just means, objects further away will appear to move slower than objects that are closer. So when you're riding on the highway, trees close to the highway may whiz by but the mountains further back don't.

LLet's look at the video without comments from the pseudoskeptic.



First, you see the Pilot had trouble locking onto the object because of it's movement. The pseudoskeptic analysis skipped this part. Then you hear the Pilot scream,"Oh, I got it!" once he locks onto the object.

Now look at the water in the distance behind the object. The object would have to be the size of a football field for the position to change that fast but not really changing at all according to your pseudoskeptic analysis in the video you posted.

The position of the object is changing with the water in the background.

How could the object be moving slow or not at all if it's position changes with the water in the background?

Foo Fighters as a secret Nazi device is at => en.wikipedia.org... .

And just being on top-secret Congressional Intelligence committees does not give someone any clearance. Remember that President Jimmy Carter fired George H.W> Bush as CIA director because (among other things) the latter refused to answer Carter's inquiries about UFOs. Bush said: "Curiosity is not a need-to-know".

Compartmentalized Top-Secret clearances are always based on a "Need-To-Know". My problem with that has always been who decides who has this need? Who monitors the Monitors? Apparently it isn't anyone in elected Government or even the "visible" Military or Intelligence branches.

Furthermore, I am convinced that most major governments have known what these so-called "UFOs" are for 70 years. And I'm not convinced there are ETs from other star systems. I lean more toward accidental time manipulation.

a reply to: neoholographic

Apparently Dragonridr is arguing that:

1. Our most advanced fighter jet's systems don't take into consideration such a simple thing as parallax into their complex tracking computer systems. I mean why would they? I would be surprised if altitude made it's way into part of the equation!

AND NOT OR

2. Our most highly trained and trusted pilots (you know, the ones that we have literally spent millions on EACH of their training) and many of which have decades of experience
just completely forgot the elementary factor of parallax!

Dragonridr, have you given these idiots a call, told them how they are wrong and explained to them how? No? Why not? I suggest you do that and get back to me with your results.

a reply to: stealthskater

Furthermore, I am convinced that most major governments have known what these so-called "UFOs" are for 70 years. And I'm not convinced there are ETs from other star systems. I lean more toward accidental time manipulation.

That's possible. However as far as I have read, that would require or at least be very closely associated with faster than light travel....which would be required for any meaningful interstellar travel.

I lean towards interdimensional. They are from a higher dimension. This would cover the time manipulation issue as well as the interstellar (faster than light) travel issue.

I find it amusing that some will argue that it is probably human technology. What they don't realize is they are conceding that these things exist (how could any intelligent person not?) But then we point out how we have been witnessing these for hundreds and possibly thousands of years.....

Many people need a dead stinking Alien body in front of them for them to be convinced...just like many people fall into believing the propaganda machine.

I DIDN’T say they had that kind of tech, I was just pointing out in my post that the statistics by LucidParadox for plane and missile speed were off by a pretty good margin. a reply to: Alien Abduct

I was quoting this part:

So.. you believe that some human technology has the ability to go 54,545mph, then stop on a dime instantaneously? Because the fastest known jet ever made flew at 2,100mph, and the fastest known missile to have been developed flies at 2,300mph... An ICBM in orbit returning to Earth... comes in at 15,658mph.... So tell me what tech is HUMANLY possible to travel at 4x the speed of a returning ICBM and stop on a dime?

But the full quote didn’t seem to get in my initial post.

I was quoting your airplane and missile speeds, I KNOW there’s nothing we have (at least openly) that can achieve things like 4x the velocity to get to orbit instantly. a reply to: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
I DIDN’T say they had that kind of tech, I was just pointing out in my post that the statistics by LucidParadox for plane and missile speed were off by a pretty good margin. a reply to: Alien Abduct

I was quoting this part:

So.. you believe that some human technology has the ability to go 54,545mph, then stop on a dime instantaneously? Because the fastest known jet ever made flew at 2,100mph, and the fastest known missile to have been developed flies at 2,300mph... An ICBM in orbit returning to Earth... comes in at 15,658mph.... So tell me what tech is HUMANLY possible to travel at 4x the speed of a returning ICBM and stop on a dime?

But the full quote didn’t seem to get in my initial post.

I misread, my apologies.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

No im arguing to read the screen of the tracking radar. What you think an object does doesnt matter what counts is direction of the camera from the plane. The numbers show a different story. As i said it wouldnt be the first time information was missread. Do to camera angle it obviously is not at the surface of the water. That means every statistic based on its speed is wrong. As far as the equipment it doesnt care about parallax this is strictly a human perception are brain uses to determine motion. The equipment does not cause it our brains do trying to interpret what we are seeing. Thats why you have to look at the raw data and not the image the camera tells us where its looking at.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Interdimensional wouldnt make sense much more likely to be aliens from our galaxy. Interdimentional is just a buzz word that has no basis in fact. There is no evidence something from one universe can enter another in fact doing so would probably have catastrophic results. If they are here it is a high probability they have a base somewhere in our solar system. Traveling between stars takes a lot of time so expansions would be groups moving to new solar systems from their original homeworld. Someday mankind will start travelling out in to the galaxy it will just take 20 years to get to the closest stars. And these wont be round trips.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Interdimensional wouldnt make sense much more likely to be aliens from our galaxy. Interdimentional is just a buzz word that has no basis in fact. There is no evidence something from one universe can enter another in fact doing so would probably have catastrophic results. If they are here it is a high probability they have a base somewhere in our solar system. Traveling between stars takes a lot of time so expansions would be groups moving to new solar systems from their original homeworld. Someday mankind will start travelling out in to the galaxy it will just take 20 years to get to the closest stars. And these wont be round trips.

They do not travel. They can manipulate gravity by warping space/time and repeatedly assuming a position in the field. No Inertia, no resistance, no G forces..... How the real question.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Interdimensional wouldnt make sense much more likely to be aliens from our galaxy. Interdimentional is just a buzz word that has no basis in fact. There is no evidence something from one universe can enter another in fact doing so would probably have catastrophic results. If they are here it is a high probability they have a base somewhere in our solar system. Traveling between stars takes a lot of time so expansions would be groups moving to new solar systems from their original homeworld. Someday mankind will start travelling out in to the galaxy it will just take 20 years to get to the closest stars. And these wont be round trips.

I've been studying physics and the cosmos for roughly 20 years, I can assure you I know more than a little about it. Interdimensional beings are absolutely a possibility. This would also explain why their craft sometimes seem to defy our current understanding of physics.