Senator Marco Rubio Let's I.D. The UFO's Flying Over Military Bases

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Are you aware it was mostly US pilots that saw these things? So ask yourself what was different about them and we can conclude the United States did high altitude bombing during the day. So what did they see? Well they reported bright objects like a spotlight. They often found the moment they changed direction they would disapear. Sounds to me they were seeing reflectios of the sun off inversion layers. Not one foo fighter was spotted at night when the british did their bombings.

Now lets look to the skies for signs of life!

Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

a reply to: dragonridr


Right man, all those trained observers, scientists and other people with impeccable records are all in on it and are all lying about what they have seen.

The foo fighters were said to have flown along side the fighters and actually switched positions from the left side to the front to the right, back to the left before flying off at times...while the fighter jet held steady.


Anyways this thread isn't about arguing the existence of UFOs, that's already been pretty well established.

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Humans have anti-gravity, anti-inertia craft that could fly thousands of miles per hour and turn at that speed without slowing down with no wings of any sort and no visible means of propulsion? Name it.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Your proving my point but dont realize it foo fighters were optical illusions. Remember high altitude flights were still rare before WW2 so of course they saw things they hadnt before. The other thing do you realize these foo fighters were reported by the air crew and very rarely the pilot. Most of them were reported by the rear gunner which makes sense if its a reflection.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Humans have anti-gravity, anti-inertia craft that could fly thousands of miles per hour and turn at that speed without slowing down with no wings of any sort and no visible means of propulsion? Name it.

We cant but then again UFOs cant either physics wont allow it. I find it funny how people think they know the specs of some alien aircraft like it was published in Janes. You have no idea what they can do much less even if they exist UFO means unidentified so you dont even know if they are a spacecraft.

Now we do have tech that can do some amazing things you wouldnt believe so dont discount humans we have a way of surprising you.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Ever heard of the foo fighters? (Not the band) UFOs witnessed by the Germans, British, Americans and most other fighter pilots in WW1 and WW2.

Foo Fighters may well be a key piece of the UFO mystery. But can we really be sure they were witnessed by the German pilots???

There seem to be no official Luftwaffe accounts on them.

RV Jones, Britain's Director of Intelligence during WWII claimed after the war that the Axis pilots were as mystified as the Allies. However, I've never found a single 'official' report from the Axis powers on Foo Fighters. America scientist, David T. Griggs, who was specifically tasked to investigate Foo Fighters and even flew on combat missions.

He told a different tale when interviewed in 1969. Saying Foo Fighters only appeared over enemy territory.



His WWII report on Foo Fighters remains classified AFAIK.

Just after WWII many German scientists were relocated with Allied assistance..... to New Mexico. 🤔

a reply to: mirageman

This gets back to one of my favorite UFO stories. The Nazi base in antarctica and how admiral byrd was sent there to destroy it. Make a great sci fi movie.

Here's the thing, unidentified flights over our military facilities is never not going to be problematic. Doesn't matter who points it out. I'd be willing to bet it's also a global thing. Not isolated to just the US.

While because of "some" nod to national security some details are going to be left out I'm equally sure there's information that can be released if to do nothing more than calm folks down. It's no big secret that somethings been going on for very long time.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: neoholographic

The vast majority of humans believe intelligent life is visiting. It would eliminate a lot of anxiety if it could be demonstrated that they are merely curious.

Anxiety? Really? If the aliens were hostile we’d be screwed already: either dead or enslaved. Nothing to be anxious about. This isn’t Hollywood where aliens are almost universally bad.

originally posted by: dragonridr
Your proving my point but dont realize it foo fighters were optical illusions. Remember high altitude flights were still rare before WW2 so of course they saw things they hadnt before. The other thing do you realize these foo fighters were reported by the air crew and very rarely the pilot. Most of them were reported by the rear gunner which makes sense if its a reflection.

Err.......................... There is no way "foo fighters were optical illusions" indeed they are totally real and have been seen since the recording of time began. Having had many interactions with them these things are one hundred % totally above board. They are real and out there right now

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: neoholographic

I don't trust anyone any more.

Or any less.

The idea of a propeller-less aircraft would have been novel to a pilot in the late 30s and early 40s. Technology has since improved by orders of magnitude and the UFOs are still described similarly. It's plausible to us today that a government might have this figured out and is keeping it a secret. That wasn't even a consideration in 1942. I just find that interesting.

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Did you read my post at all?

Mach 5 is 3836mph

A ICBM returning to earth is 15,000+ mph


The tic tac went 55,000 + mph

Nearly 4x the speed of an ICBM warhead rocketing towards it's final destination designed to be too fast for ANYTHING to intercept it...

4x as fast

I don't think you understand how fast 55,000mph is in our atmosphere... The atmospheric friction alone would cause it to disintegrate into nothing... Let alone stop on a dime

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Did you read my post at all?

Mach 5 is 3836mph

A ICBM returning to earth is 15,000+ mph


The tic tac went 55,000 + mph

Nearly 4x the speed of an ICBM warhead rocketing towards it's final destination designed to be too fast for ANYTHING to intercept it...

4x as fast

I don't think you understand how fast 55,000mph is in our atmosphere... The atmospheric friction alone would cause it to disintegrate into nothing... Let alone stop on a dime

What your desribing is impossible the aircraft would store so much heat it would be hotter than the sun. You are aware however it is now believed the go fast video was a baloon. The gimble its mounted on gave it a fake volocity, And the fact it is not where they thought it was the video tells us it was actually moving very slowly. When you read the camera information you can see what it really is.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Did you read my post at all?

Mach 5 is 3836mph

A ICBM returning to earth is 15,000+ mph


The tic tac went 55,000 + mph

Nearly 4x the speed of an ICBM warhead rocketing towards it's final destination designed to be too fast for ANYTHING to intercept it...

4x as fast

I don't think you understand how fast 55,000mph is in our atmosphere... The atmospheric friction alone would cause it to disintegrate into nothing... Let alone stop on a dime

What your desribing is impossible the aircraft would store so much heat it would be hotter than the sun. You are aware however it is now believed the go fast video was a baloon. The gimble its mounted on gave it a fake volocity, And the fact it is not where they thought it was the video tells us it was actually moving very slowly. When you read the camera information you can see what it really is.

Right right, those pilots with millions of dollars in training and DECADES of experience are just confused and YOU and PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T EVEN FLOWN A PLANE BEFORE have it figured out, how the highly trained observers are just wrong. LMFAO!

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Um, theres SEVERAL planes that have gone much faster then that, and dozens of varieties of missiles that routinely hit Mach 4-5, those UFOs still don’t compare to anything like what we have. a reply to: Lucidparadox

Did you read my post at all?

Mach 5 is 3836mph

A ICBM returning to earth is 15,000+ mph


The tic tac went 55,000 + mph

Nearly 4x the speed of an ICBM warhead rocketing towards it's final destination designed to be too fast for ANYTHING to intercept it...

4x as fast

I don't think you understand how fast 55,000mph is in our atmosphere... The atmospheric friction alone would cause it to disintegrate into nothing... Let alone stop on a dime

What your desribing is impossible the aircraft would store so much heat it would be hotter than the sun. You are aware however it is now believed the go fast video was a baloon. The gimble its mounted on gave it a fake volocity, And the fact it is not where they thought it was the video tells us it was actually moving very slowly. When you read the camera information you can see what it really is.

Right right, those pilots with millions of dollars in training and DECADES of experience are just confused and YOU and PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T EVEN FLOWN A PLANE BEFORE have it figured out, how the highly trained observers are just wrong. LMFAO!

Exactly!

It's the same pseudoskeptics making the same nonsensical arguements in every thread.

Somehow, we should reduce all eyewitnesses of U.F.O.'s to idiots and only believe the blind pseudoskeptic who was nowhere around the incident when it happened.

I'm surprised the pseudoskeptics still make these asinine arguements that nobody listens to.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

So your assuming because someone has a pilot licence that somehow they cant be fooled? The math doesnt lie watch the video the object was closer to the pilot then they thought it was. When you do the math from the instruments it was moving at 40 knots hardly a blazing spped. These pilots would not be the first to be misled by their instruments happens all the time in combat.

Now if you want to disprove the math involved by all means show us it wasnt at 12000 feet instead of at sea level

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Alien Abduct

So your assuming because someone has a pilot licence that somehow they cant be fooled? The math doesnt lie watch the video the object was closer to the pilot then they thought it was. When you do the math from the instruments it was moving at 40 knots hardly a blazing spped. These pilots would not be the first to be misled by their instruments happens all the time in combat.

Now if you want to disprove the math involved by all means show us it wasnt at 12000 feet instead of at sea level

There was one question in the comments that debunks your entire video and that the author of the video failed to respond to.

Mick, if the speeds are so different (210 mph by your analysis), how does the jet maintain a straight trajectory with the object? The jet would cross the path of the object in a few seconds if there was really that much of a difference in speed.

In other words, you have the jet moving very fast above the object but the object is moving slow. So the jet would pass the object in a matter of seconds. The jet and the object wouldn't track together. The jet would cross the path of the object in a matter of seconds. Anyone that has flown in a plane or on a helicopter like I did in the military knows this.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Alien Abduct

So your assuming because someone has a pilot licence that somehow they cant be fooled? The math doesnt lie watch the video the object was closer to the pilot then they thought it was. When you do the math from the instruments it was moving at 40 knots hardly a blazing spped. These pilots would not be the first to be misled by their instruments happens all the time in combat.

Now if you want to disprove the math involved by all means show us it wasnt at 12000 feet instead of at sea level

Your videos are not the subject of this thread. You are losing that argument in other threads. I refer you to the threads that are arguing about those videos.