Two Danish patients have brain hemorrhages following AstraZeneca shot

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

Does not compute.

Why do you and all the others that say things like this keep saying, "Hmmm, 2 out of 447 gazillion doses...." It's not 2. There have been a lot more deaths and crippling injuries than 2. So, stop gaslighting, please. We're not stupid. Although I wonder about some types of people.


TCB

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

As of a week ago upwards of 20 million doses of AstraZeneca had been administered across the EU. A handful of blood clots were reported after vaccination, which was similar to what would have been expected in the population without the vaccination.

A handful of blood clots have also been reported after receiving the Pfizer too.

The overwhelming opinion of scientists and medical authorisation bodies maintain there is no evidence of a causal link. If there was, then the miniscule numbers of prople effected should not stop the use of the vaccine.

No doubt of the millions vaccinated a few people have had car accidents, so is because they were vaccinated, or just unlucky?

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: putnam6

You are a guy so I have to ask...

If there was a contraception vaccine, but you could still get a girl pregnant after you took it...

And you still had to wear a condom...

Would you still take it?

That is how stupid this whole thing has become...

Lmao !!! Now that’s a good point !!!

Here's the thing science isn't based on how many approve or disapprove. Galileo was ostracized because his scientific views weren't accepted by the masses, medical science once believes in bloodletting, well as non-sterile surgical procedures.

Medical science during the Spanish flu pandemic thought they knew and could observe through their newly invented microscopes all pathogens and viruses, and thus control them. Medical history is chocked full of ideas, medicines, and procedures we no longer do.

For example, doctors used to bandage up serious 3rd-degree burns which lead to infections and heavy scarring, then they proceeded to much lighter dressing to having the patient on forced air, and the latest they can now use sterilized fish skin laid on the burns it greatly improves healing lowers infection and tremendously reduces scarring. That the medical scientific method is trial and error and results improved over time.

originally posted by: schuyler
As of this weekend in the US 100 million people have been vaccinated. So.....where are all the bodies?

Many scientists studying these “vaccines” think that the real trouble will show up 4-18 months after getting the second shot.

I have a question for you, in kind. Supposedly 500,000 people in the US died of covid. So...where are all the bodies?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: putnam6

I think the Pfizer and the Astra Zenica are double shots.

My Mother is due her second Astra Zenica shot, that's why I'm asking.

My uncle had the Pfizer. F$cked him up.

Moderna is also two shots. I know this because a friend of mine had her dad (upper 70’s) vaccinated, and after the 2nd shot he developed swelling and fluid around his heart. She said he is “not doing well.” Said he was fine until that second shot.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Many scientists studying these “vaccines” think that the real trouble will show up 4-18 months after getting the second shot.
I have a question for you, in kind. Supposedly 500,000 people in the US died of covid. So...where are all the bodies?

Are you disappointed that you were not personally invited to all the funerals?

Anyway, who are the "many" scientists who think problems will show up 4-18 months after the vaccinations? Love to see their work! It’s the “don’t do it, because you’ll survive for now, but die later” brigade of quacks and charlatans.

This would be my concern.

What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure. There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.

Bolding mine. Plenty of info at site.
www.primarydoctor.org...

originally posted by: putnam6 That the medical scientific method is trial and error and results improved over time.

but with 'covid' the time factor was steamrollered out of the way in favour of fearful hyperbole and deliberately, massively exagerrated mathematical 'models'.

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: putnam6

You are a guy so I have to ask...

If there was a contraception vaccine, but you could still get a girl pregnant after you took it...

And you still had to wear a condom...

Would you still take it?

That is how stupid this whole thing has become...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: putnam6

You are a guy so I have to ask...

If there was a contraception vaccine, but you could still get a girl pregnant after you took it...

And you still had to wear a condom...

Would you still take it?

That is how stupid this whole thing has become...

She did hit the proverbial nail on the head, didn't she?

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

Does not compute.

Why do you and all the others that say things like this keep saying, "Hmmm, 2 out of 447 gazillion doses...." It's not 2. There have been a lot more deaths and crippling injuries than 2. So, stop gaslighting, please. We're not stupid. Although I wonder about some types of people.

TCB

Because no matter how you divide things up, the numbers of adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines is vanishingly small.

And, if people don't take action to stop the spread, or to build immunity as a population, the disease will continue unchecked, perhaps for years.

And the death toll will continue to rise by the same mortality ratios as have now been established.

That will mean a lot more people dead than may have possibly died due to adverse reactions to a vaccine, by a factor of hundreds of thousands.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: schuyler
As of this weekend in the US 100 million people have been vaccinated. So.....where are all the bodies?

Many scientists studying these “vaccines” think that the real trouble will show up 4-18 months after getting the second shot.

I have a question for you, in kind. Supposedly 500,000 people in the US died of covid. So...where are all the bodies?

The primary reaction to a vaccine (any vaccine) is around 28 days after administration of the initial shot. When the conditioned immune response is at its peak.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Many scientists studying these “vaccines” think that the real trouble will show up 4-18 months after getting the second shot.
I have a question for you, in kind. Supposedly 500,000 people in the US died of covid. So...where are all the bodies?

Are you disappointed that you were not personally invited to all the funerals?

Anyway, who are the "many" scientists who think problems will show up 4-18 months after the vaccinations? Love to see their work! It’s the “don’t do it, because you’ll survive for now, but die later” brigade of quacks and charlatans.

The quacks and charlatans are usually wearing business suits with American flag lapel pins, they work in government.

The best examples are Fauci & Redfield.

Because they've been conditioned, most americans cannot tell the difference between a quack and a scientist.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

Does not compute.

Why do you and all the others that say things like this keep saying, "Hmmm, 2 out of 447 gazillion doses...." It's not 2. There have been a lot more deaths and crippling injuries than 2. So, stop gaslighting, please. We're not stupid. Although I wonder about some types of people.

TCB

Because no matter how you divide things up, the numbers of adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines is vanishingly small.

And, if people don't take action to stop the spread, or to build immunity as a population, the disease will continue unchecked, perhaps for years.

And the death toll will continue to rise by the same mortality ratios as have now been established.

That will mean a lot more people dead than may have possibly died due to adverse reactions to a vaccine, by a factor of hundreds of thousands.

www.primarydoctor.org...

General risk vs benefit An emergency experimental vaccine cannot be assumed to be safer than a virus with a very high survival rate, such as COVID-19. The average survival rate for NO COVID treatment at all is 99.74%, and we have very successful treatments available, which should easily achieve universal survivability from COVID, if widely available. Where does 99.74% of survival come from? Dr. John Ioannidis is the most widely cited scientist in the world. His estimate in June 2020 of a 0.26% infection fatality rate is now confirmed around the world. 100% - 0.26% = 99.74% average survival rate.

a reply to: putnam6

Facts ...... you've got facts there, and reasoning ...... phew mate, there's something you don't see every day.

Also, it's critically important that the 85% of the population, 6,675,856,603, who show little to no symptoms, get injected with said experimental gene therapy et al so big pharma can make sh!t tonnes of cash.

That's right 6,675,856,603 DO NOT NEED ANY EXPERIMENTAL INJECTION AT ALL, is it really that hard to understand, apparently it is.

originally posted by: RenegadeOfTheLight
This would be my concern.

What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure. There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.

Bolding mine. Plenty of info at site.
www.primarydoctor.org...

Thanks for this site lots of good info there...

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

Jesus are you really that naive?

I'm just trying to understand the position of the Pharmaceutical companies mate I try to look at things from multiple views , not just my skeptical " there up to no good view " .

But yes I understand what this could and probably is .

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

It's not just those Two cases mate , dont be a smart a**

How many countries have banned the AstraZeneca vaccine for this very reason ?

I had my first shot of Astra zeneca yesterday. Apart from a sore arm today and feeling a little tired tonight I'm ok so far. I'm 52 slim and fairly fit so not really at risk but I love to travel and think this will hopefully make it easier. My job does bring me into contact with lots of people but somehow I manage not to catch it as far as I know although was very ill for a few days last January 2020 with a cough that felt like I had broken a rib. Didn't manage to go away anywhere last year ,definitely looking forward to when I can travel again.