Two Danish patients have brain hemorrhages following AstraZeneca shot

Well, for me two family dead after Pfizer vaccine,

None due to covid through out the duration of covid... both deaths now after the 2ne Pfizer shot.


Anecdotal I know right, and I'm sure the published statistics go against these low sample set and its just anecdotal.


But my question is this, after the European version reworking, and future better ones on the horizon, why not wait till more research and numbers are in for low risk population?

a reply to: schuyler

a reply to: benrl

Holy sh1t, two dead?

My uncle was hospitalized After the first shot.

Double pneumonia and kidney failure.

Luckily his wife(my Auntie) was there to get him help.

I'm sorry for your losses. 😠

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: putnam6

Was this the first sh0t or the second, do you know?

Don't think it was mentioned in the article, but I'm not even sure if the Astra Zeneca shot is one that takes 2 shots I know one of the vaccines they are using here in the US doesn't. But it isn't the Astra Zeneca because the FDA hasn't approved it yet.

Keeping in mind I'm not anti vaccinee even still, just with the rush to develop how could anyone argue this is not an extreme risk the medical community is taking.

New methodology, untested with generational trials, etc.


a reply to: Wide-Eyes

a reply to: putnam6

I think the Pfizer and the Astra Zenica are double shots.

My Mother is due her second Astra Zenica shot, that's why I'm asking.

My uncle had the Pfizer. F$cked him up.

originally posted by: benrl
Well, for me two family dead after Pfizer vaccine,

None due to covid through out the duration of covid... both deaths now after the 2ne Pfizer shot.


Anecdotal I know right, and I'm sure the published statistics go against these low sample set and its just anecdotal.


But my question is this, after the European version reworking, and future better ones on the horizon, why not wait till more research and numbers are in for low risk population?

a reply to: schuyler

Sorry to hear this, my condolences to you and your family.

That is exactly where I'm coming from too.

I have no doubt I'm posting and reading more and more about this because I'm pretty sure my Mom is gonna get her shot next week. Like I said I'm not arguing with her at all, but these are struggles families face. She wants because she wants to see her sister and the rest of her relatives and I completely get that. It doesn't eliminate the concern, either way, it could jack her up with COVID or some other side effect she is a tough old bird but there are no guarantees.

Not to mention she always complains about her Doctor. Honestly, I'm hoping she decides not to, but I'm prepared my sister and I will be her caregivers regardless. Knowing my Mom she is thinking she needs to get it because none of her dumbass children are going to.

Ive been advising family to keep standard, long standing and proven to work method of plague and disease handling until more time has passed, and better vacinee/ treatments established.


It's taken two deaths to get my voice heard unfortunately...


a reply to: putnam6

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: putnam6

I think the Pfizer and the Astra Zenica are double shots.

My Mother is due her second Astra Zenica shot, that's why I'm asking.

My uncle had the Pfizer. F$cked him up.

To me, that's part of the problem here as it is now you schedule an appointment and they may or may not tell you which shot you are getting. Like was mentioned COVID vaccine roulette. Hell, I'm learning about the differences manufacturers and different versions can make.

The doctor put me on Ozempic and I was okay for a while, then it started to jack me up I'd have a day or so where I was anxious, heart racing, blood pressure surging every week for a couple of months, till finally, I stopped using it, it was so debilitating. Now so far Trulicity seems fine in fact now the doctor seems my blood glucose is fine and I may be able to cut my dosage down or eliminate it altogether. The point being they both are semaglutides just different formulations and Trulicity is newer and the benefit of trial and error of those semaglutides before it including Ozempic. These were both put through enough testing and research for years and they still needed fine-tuning.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

The odds of these two cases out of 447 million doses?

Hmm, math is hard.

Again these were just the two cases In Denmark, they thought it was serious enough that they shut down using it. At the time there were 17 million dosages no telling if those were one or two shots in the article. I'll do some searching and see what I can find about Denmark, but remember that is just Denmark other countries have had issues as well.

Many countries followed some have returned to using it others have not.

here we go

www.euronews.com...

Finland has become the latest Scandinavian country to suspend the AstraZeneca vaccine - despite the European Medicines Agency (EMA) concluding it was "safe and effective".

The country's public health authority said two people developed blood clots after being vaccinated. As a result, jabs will be suspended "until there is more information and a possible causality can be assessed".

Dozens of European countries had suspended the vaccine amid reports of blood clots.

Some, such as Italy, Germany and Spain indicated they would restart AstraZeneca vaccinations after the EMA's safety review on Thursday.

But Norway, Sweden and Denmark said they would not be lifting their suspensions.All three countries said they were reviewing the EMA verdict that the vaccine's benefits outweigh its risks following 25 reports of rare but serious blood clots in Europe.

So let me get things straight, Here in this little part of the world there are almost 900 000 of us here . 24 have died with the covid, 90 suicides and 260 overdoses. What does the vaccine have to offer us?. Seriously?

a reply to: chr0naut

originally posted by: abigredneck
So let me get things straight, Here in this little part of the world there are almost 900 000 of us here . 24 have died with the covid, 90 suicides and 260 overdoses. What does the vaccine have to offer us?. Seriously?

a reply to: chr0naut

No more lock-downs. International travel. Those are 'plusses'.

And in Finland (mentioned it previous post), the population is 5,546,941 and deaths from COVID-19 have been 805.

In Denmark (also mentioned in previous post and in OP) the population is 5,806,992 and deaths from COVID-19 have been 2,401.

Not sure where you are talking about, though. If it was a US State, which has a population close to 900,000 it was probably Delaware, which has had 1,517 deaths from COVID-19.

So, not sure

From what I read, it is allowable for some people to die or get disabled from a vaccine. Quite a few people have to die before they discontinue a vaccine that they tout is a pancea of medicine....for the good of the majority applies, at least fifty one percent of people benefit from it and it is acceptable. Right now ninety five percent of people will benefit from what they say and that means five percent can die or have serious problems.

a reply to: schuyler

Very disturbing story. In the US there are special crematoriums that are designed for morbidly obese people. You can also cremate eight normal sized people in there at once.

It's happened not that long before the covid nonsense by a person getting rid of evidence of human trafficking. So if you really want to know where the bodies might be, check out the free compost some cities give out.

Doesn't matter what the scumbag FDA approves or doesn't, all of the vaccines are killing and seriously hurting people. Never forget Puppet Trump only pushed the agenda and Puppet Biden is continuing the rollout. They all work together and don't give not one f# about We The Peasants. Should be MORE than clear by now what their intentions have truly been since March 2020.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: putnam6

So it causes blood clots, and then it does the diametric opposite?

Perhaps the 'symptoms' in both cases had an unrelated cause?

What are the odds of that chr0 ?

I mean just critically thinking , What are the odds ?

These Vaccines were rushed and when things are rushed and improperly tested people get hurt , it's really not that far fetched.

It's not Like Astra zeneca is trying to hurt people, they were just on the clock .

Jesus are you really that naive?

originally posted by: rickymouse
From what I read, it is allowable for some people to die or get disabled from a vaccine. Quite a few people have to die before they discontinue a vaccine that they tout is a pancea of medicine....for the good of the majority applies, at least fifty one percent of people benefit from it and it is acceptable. Right now ninety five percent of people will benefit from what they say and that means five percent can die or have serious problems.

And what is the percentage that dies from Covid? and what is that percentage when you remove those who died in long-term care facilities.

Large scale trial in US shows no increased risk of blood clots.

www.bbc.co.uk...

It's the same two people that lead me to make this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: putnam6
here more recent news from Europe about AstraZeneca and more.

The EU and some EU nations are gunning for AstraZeneca. It's mostly politics. On the one hand they spread fake news about it, and on the other they block its export. Now it seems the EU is prepared to take over production facilities.

The EU don't want AstraZeneca, but they want it so badly they are prepared to compromise their (already fraught) relationship with the UK.

In the politics of the EU, the root problem is that they have failed to implement a useful vaccination programme. The UK has. It’s the politics of envy as the EU try to find someone to blame for their crap performance.

Take the French approach which is all over the place. They are lost up their own arses.
- France’s Marcro says AZ is quasi-effective basing this on no evidence whatseoever. This sets the scene
- Then France backtracks and says it's OK
- Then they ban it
- Then they say it's OK
- Then they ban it for under/over 55 year olds
- Then they ban it
- Is it OK today?

It all plays into the anti-vaxxers.

With half of Europe now sliding into further lock-down who is being best-served? The citizens of the EU who are being toyed with, or places like the UK where there is talk of lifting lock-down in June because by then the population will be largely vaccinated. Even the hated Trump managed to set the platform which means vastly more Americans are vaccinated than in the EU.

The furore of blood clots has exposed the poor use of statistics and the age old inability to understand "cause or coincidence". Additionally, it has exposed poor understanding of risk. For example...

-> 1 person in 15 million dies because there is a POSSIBLE link to the vaccination. BAN the vaccine.
-> 100,000 people die because they don't get vaccinated.

For all the "side effects" warriors. I have had the AZ vaccine. Felt tired for a day.

Next time you take a non-prescription medication e.g. aspirin, take a look at the possible side effects. Something as simple as aspirin can cause serious problems for a small number of people. Here's the list of aspirin side-effects.

Abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning; black, tarry stools; bloody or cloudy urine; change in consciousness; chest pain or discomfort; confusion; constipation; convulsions, severe or continuing; dark urine; decreased frequency or amount of urine; diarrhea; difficult breathing; drowsiness; fainting; fast breathing; feeling that something terrible will happen; fever; general tiredness and weakness; greatly decreased frequency of urination or amount of urine; headache; heartburn; increased thirst; indigestion; irregular heartbeat; light-colored stools; loss of appetite; loss of consciousness; lower back or side pain; muscle cramping and weakness; muscle tremors; nausea or vomiting; nervousness; numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or lips; panic; rapid, deep breathing; restlessness; seizures; skin rash; stomach cramps; swelling of the face, fingers, or lower legs; unusual bleeding or bruising; unusual tiredness or weakness; vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds; weakness or heaviness of the legs; weight gain; yellow eyes and skin