Bigfoot posture

Ok...trying again.
Scientists have found them, Meldrum saw one so consider BF "found".
There's prolly a few more in the club, but I'm drawing a blank right now.

What your actually asking is where's the body?
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than WTF's our "slab monkey"? They aren't monkeys, but I like the term.

Your obfuscation in being able to formulate a question you want the answer too, instead asking open ended generalities
is why people gave up even bothering anymore on BF/Sasquatch topics. I haven't disagreed with you that a body
is necessary. I sincerely have been wondering about your reading comprehension skills since BF has been "found"
repeatedly by all manner of people for time immemorial.

They've been seen & recorded on dash cam's by police on duty FFS!
Just to disabuse you of the notion that witness reports aren't evidence. There's the fact that witness testimony is valid evidence in a court of law. Valid enough to get people the death penalty.

Why they haven't been categorized by science.
#1 we don't for a fact know they haven't been. What we DO know is "if they have" it isn't public knowledge.
Unless you're satisfied with Melba Ketchum's dna study, that's something currently we can put a 'pin in" & wait for further developments.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Nah you all are really that bad. I mean just suck. Going in the woods and eating cheetos does not qualify as a bigfoot hunting venture. In fact does not even qualify as anything really. Maybe just goofing off. They should get a few thousand of these bet buy drones and maybe pick a state park.

Try to cover the area with the drones. See what you all find. Or how about this? How many seagulls do you see in the jungle? The answer is none. Because it is not there habitat.

a reply to: Caver78
A heard of wildebeests coming at you may pose a problem. But they are easily avoided, you just must avoid the vicinity of said wildebeest charge, mostly being outside the African continent specifically the Serengeti area, you should be safe from being trampled by raging wildebeests.

Its safe to say that all of us here sitting cozy behind our mouse and pad. Are safe from being trampled to death by a heard of wildebeests. As such, wildebeests may not exist.

They may be a myth perpetrated by the state media. After all how many of us have seen a wildebeest? Last time I was in my backyards I seen 0 of them. Though there was a deer some months ago. And there are beers in the area as there is some wildland not that far off. Or so the story goes.

But since I have not seen one either in the back yard yet. Well i guess bears don't exist either.

a reply to: Caver78
Well then if there is a bigfoot in every rural or not so rural backyard. Skulking about in the hindareas and such. Well then? That does not bode well for the average person does it then? I mean you would have to be blind, dead, dump and stupid to miss all that.


Do you know what the odds are to being one of those much less all 4? That would be an extremely poor sense of observation skills? Who knows. But the words on those odds are astronomical.

But then again. With everybody so preoccupied with there own little world, or whatever world there jacked into, with there heads in the cellphones all day. I mean? It could happen. But! if its not Trump, then its not important. Or newsworthy.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Nah you all are really that bad. I mean just suck. Going in the woods and eating cheetos does not qualify as a bigfoot hunting venture. In fact does not even qualify as anything really. Maybe just goofing off. They should get a few thousand of these bet buy drones and maybe pick a state park.

Try to cover the area with the drones. See what you all find. Or how about this? How many seagulls do you see in the jungle? The answer is none. Because it is not there habitat.

Don't knock the cheetos...BF loves them...

My point is if BF was even remotely real there would be professional groups spending 10 of millions to find them. It would be the discovery of the century!

But you are right all we got is Cheetos eating LARPer running around screaming I hear Satch!

Why?

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

You nailed it.
Generally we go from our homes to our vehicles to work & back again at the end of the day. Two days doing the same yard work routine. (pre-covid) But in a neighborhood, or any populated area, to suss out peoples patterns of activity isn't difficult. Moving around us in what I call "our gaps" is pretty easy.

Not saying BF is in EVERY neighborhood or rural area all the time, but they are more frequently than in the past coming in closer. Thanks to the idiocy of BF TV shows people have been given some shockingly bad information to even begin working on what they even think about the topic. So it's easy to just write it all off.

I'd of told you a few yrs ago that we don't have Black Bears in my particular area. Out further, yeah, but not here. Till I caught one having a fine time carefully choosing the only trash bag with some leftover pizza in it, making a slit & only removing the food. Blew my mind!! The Bear did not dump trash all over the side yard or make a mess. 10:30 in the am he strolled across the road, had to of been seen by the multiple people who drove by, & continued his jaunt over to the neighbors to get into the outbuilding for the beer cans.

Our elderly neighbor saved his beer cans (unrinsed) in an outbuilding to scrap, but had been complaining that "kids" were messing with his stuff.

The kicker was NOBODY reported seeing the Bear. For months he was hanging out. Wasn't till a Female with cubs made a nuisance of herself 2 yrs later it became public knowledge they were here. I didn't report the male cause he already had a silver tag in his ear, was older with gray muzzle & possibly the most quiet & polite garbage thief ever! We just made sure after the first incident our trash was inaccessible, went out with the dogs just in case. No biggie.

Point being no-one was looking for a Bear cause everyone including me didn't expect them here.
In fact we'd been told by the Game Guys they WEREN't here. Same as the odd Cougar isn't here or Feral Hogs.
But much like BF they go where ever they want, whenever they want.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

You have a PM

a reply to: Xtrozero

I dont think it works like that. Besides. How about the drone idea. Just get a few hundred people and there drones, pick a spot were there likely to be like the north forested woodlands. And well. See what happens.

Though not to sure about the battery life on those things. Also forested areas you will be flying above, pretty hard to spot down into the forest past the canopy. Especially here in NW it so dense, you literally cant move anywhere without a machete and a chainsaw.

Also you would lose connection with the drone once in dense forests or bushes. that much plantlike around from long distances, has a habit of soaking up and interrupting radio signals.

Either way. Your drone idea is a good one. Wont even need millions of $ to do it. Sign up a whole bunch of people with drones. The more the merrier. And well because, even here in wa. you head a bit into the boonies. And there is pretty much here in WA state that is just there.

Well its a lot of land to cover even with drones, even with hundreds of people all trying to cover the whole area. Chances are that hundreds would not be enough to cover the whole city. So! Well most national parks and reserved areas here in wa. All of them any state park out there, has enough landmass which is nothing but trees and bushes to build a few Seattle's in them. There is a lot of landmass which is just there and barely any people in those areas.

So ya. Logistically, 500 people with drones trying to cover something the size of Seattle would be hard pressed to see every nook and quarry. On a much bigger scale in something like the forests. It would be all but impossible. And it sure as hell would not be hard to spot and hear drones, even if there extremely quit not on the wide plains, and not in the forests. Only if your wondering along daydreaming your like not be able to hear them or see them.

Not hard at all. So no to answer your question? No! There is not such thing as this professional Bigfoot hunting people out there trying to prove bigfoot exists. There is only dudes in the woods eating chettos. If they have a drone or not? Kind of does not really matter.

But still. I am all for people trying. And the drone army idea to spot bigfoot, is better then most I heard.

Being pragmatic while drones currently available to the public have improved, the downfall is all they can do is render a image. They also only replicate satellites.

If a image is proof enough we already have that.

I'm thinking the cost of 500 people investing in drones, manpower hours needed, cost of getting to location is massively
outweighing the value of the end result.

If cost isn't a factor then the goal would be hiring private professional contractors, killing one & extracting a body.
Very costly but results that can't be disputed. It's also the most controversial method. If we're intent on tangible
results then we have to get serious about methods.

Trail Cams, casting tracks, hair samples have reached their limit of effectiveness. The argument that various agencies won't let a body be studied by civilians also would be quickly either proven or disproven. The other upside is that this brings to a screaming halt everyone running around still puddle-F'ing under the illusion their outdated methods, woefully bad information is valid.

While the long held idea that proving a new hominid is discouraged due to logging, religious drama or scaring the general populace seem logical on the surface I think they are non-starters. It's probably more like TPTB just have no clue how to handle the millions of issues it will bring or the legalities. all of which will be extremely costly.
Per normal, follow the money.
If anything cost's money with no real upside our leaders run like bunnies. Proving BF is all cost & headaches.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Not hard at all. So no to answer your question? No! There is not such thing as this professional Bigfoot hunting people out there trying to prove bigfoot exists. There is only dudes in the woods eating chettos. If they have a drone or not? Kind of does not really matter.

But still. I am all for people trying. And the drone army idea to spot bigfoot, is better then most I heard.

You missed my point of why isn't there 10s of millions dumped into BF as it would be the discovery of the century. As a number of people on this post seem to think that BF is real and out there, but no one really is looking.

BTW cameras/advance sound equipment can also be put on tethered balloons like a big eye/ear in the sky. Get a bunch of those to camp an area to help. The drones I fly can see the heat signatures in the forests and they can stay up about 13 hours with a 60 mile range, but they cost about 500k and up.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
My point is if BF was even remotely real there would be professional groups spending 10 of millions to find them. It would be the discovery of the century!

But you are right all we got is Cheetos eating LARPer running around screaming I hear Satch! Why?

Well, the whole notion of Bigfoot is kind of ridiculous (?) laughable (?), and someone taking them seriously is definitely leaving themselves open for ridicule. So that's going to help keep them hidden or professionally tracked. Add to that the idea that these things have pretty much evolved to avoid humans unless there's no option (protecting offspring, perhaps) and that could give them a fighting chance of avoiding capture or being killed. Although most Bigfoot stories told by experienced hunters have them very reluctant to kill Bigfoots because they are too human-looking. That's a good defense.

One dimension of this whole thing I enjoy although it seems implausible is the idea that the government does actually know about them and is working fairly hard to keep them under wraps so they aren't just straight up murdered. The stories about the post-eruption Mount St. Helen's Bigfoot rescue teams is interesting though impossible to verify, along with references to an anthropologist whose name escapes me at the moment, who worked for the Department of the Interior / Forestry Service who knows (if still alive) their languages. Good stuff.

Bodies? Again, there are stories of Forest Service teams finding them, but keeping it on the downlow. But if they ordinarily bury their dead in far away places rarely visited by white men, chances of finding them are very low.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well there you go. How you gonna find Bigfoot if nobody is looking. Also you may have missed a 0 on the price of those drones. Even with infra red and thermal sights. Thermals are pretty useful. But still only really useful if your within some yards from whatever it is your spotting.

Hunters use them all the time. In fact more then a few stories of hunters running into bigfoot at night while hunting hogs or whatever using thermal googles.

Either way. At this state. Pretty sure that sometime in the next century bigfoot will have to be classified in the textbooks up there with all the other animals.

Heres one technology they hope to use on drones to find missing people in the forests. Considering how many go missing while on hikes. May come in handy. Or not really. If you go missing in the woods, if its a wild animal or your lost or sprained your ankle and fell down a ravine. Well, a cold body gives off no heat signature. But a blurry blob through a forest canopy, well, can be anything. In the end you will have to get much closer.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Well there you go. How you gonna find Bigfoot if nobody is looking. Also you may have missed a 0 on the price of those drones. Even with infra red and thermal sights. Thermals are pretty useful. But still only really useful if your within some yards from whatever it is your spotting.

I'm actually in the drone business and for 300 to 500k you can get a rather nice drone that would stay in the air for 15 hours and BF would not be able to hide from, see or hear mostly.

Either way. At this state. Pretty sure that sometime in the next century bigfoot will have to be classified in the textbooks up there with all the other animals.

As I said BF is running out of time. Back in the 1800s and earlier sure why not have BF, 1900s hit and still good chance, but from 1960 onward each decade brought less and less chance that BF is actually real. Now we are 2020s and still in the same place we were at in 1960, and that doesn't look good for team BF.

Heres one technology they hope to use on drones to find missing people in the forests. Considering how many go missing while on hikes. May come in handy. Or not really. If you go missing in the woods, if its a wild animal or your lost or sprained your ankle and fell down a ravine. Well, a cold body gives off no heat signature. But a blurry blob through a forest canopy, well, can be anything. In the end you will have to get much closer.

So about 10 years ago the IR camera I was using in Afghanistan showed basically a blurry blob. With experience I could still tell you which one was a dog, goat, a local or one of our troops all by the level of the heat signatures and movement. I got really good...Move forward a few years and our cameras have gotten crazy good. We use MWIR now and its not a blob, its everything with full image of a normal camera but just one color, but very sharp. I can also see your foot prints it is that sensitive and so trees and brush would not matter. We also do a mix where we use both EO and MWIR together and blend them so you can get an even better picture as you slightly blend in EO over lapping MWIR.

In the end BF would need some super powers if that was what we decided to use. We already fly for forest fire support, all manned airplanes can only fly day light hours so we go up and monitor the fires all night so their hot shots know where to go ASAP the next morning.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I'm actually in the drone business and for 300 to 500k you can get a rather nice drone that would stay in the air for 15 hours and BF would not be able to hide from, see or hear mostly.

Oh ya! So if there at an altitude slightly above commercial fly, ozone layer. You probably could cover the whole area in 15 hours. Though you would not be able to see squat past the canopy of the forests at those altitudes. Then 15 hours at low altitudes.

May not even cover 1 mile if cants see whats on the floor or beyond the trees. So! its a nice story. The more modern lithium battery's
can cover that time on some of the walmart drones they sell. Not like anyone is not getting bored beyond the maybe hour or two of playing with a drone.

It gets old.

As I said BF is running out of time. Back in the 1800s and earlier sure why not have BF, 1900s hit and still good chance, but from 1960 onward each decade brought less and less chance that BF is actually real. Now we are 2020s and still in the same place we were at in 1960, and that doesn't look good for team BF.

What team bigfoot? No body here cares of bigfoot is alive or not. Or you talking the stories, both the kind people tell themselves or the whole here before the natives of the continent. Even the indian tribes all had tales of bigfoot. #, go back some few thousands of years to ancient summer. And the very first story that mankind has preserved from the oldest known civilization, the inventors of writing themselfs?

Yup! The tale of Gilgamesh and his best hairy beast like wildman buddy Enkidu. So even in the worlds first written back when they were just figuring out how to write. They wrote a tale of a Man an almost godking and his best friend...The bigfoot man.

So about 10 years ago the IR camera I was using in Afghanistan showed basically a blurry blob. With experience I could still tell you which one was a dog, goat, a local or one of our troops all by the level of the heat signatures and movement. I got really good...Move forward a few years and our cameras have gotten crazy good. We use MWIR now and its not a blob, its everything with full image of a normal camera but just one color, but very sharp. I can also see your foot prints it is that sensitive and so trees and brush would not matter. We also do a mix where we use both EO and MWIR together and blend them so you can get an even better picture as you slightly blend in EO over lapping MWIR. In the end BF would need some super powers if that was what we decided to use. We already fly for forest fire support, all manned airplanes can only fly day light hours so we go up and monitor the fires all night so their hot shots know where to go ASAP the next morning.

Geez all that. And yet according to statistics. At least 1,600 people go missing each and every year, while on vacation or traveling through the US national parks. And poof! Gone just like that. Yall may want to get on the case of solving were and why almost two thousand people go missing and cant be found without a single trace, every dam year.

All those fancy new additions to the drone thingy? Oh ya. Maybe they can crack this case of the always missing about 1,600 people vanishing, each and every year. You know? Give or take a few hundred people. But lets just say 2,000 for all the various reasons.

Well guess after that case is cracked. They can crack the finding bigfoot in the wild case. You know, with all the new technology and all.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Oh ya! So if there at an altitude slightly above commercial fly, ozone layer. You probably could cover the whole area in 15 hours. Though you would not be able to see squat past the canopy of the forests at those altitudes. Then 15 hours at low altitudes.

15 hours at 2000, 5000, 10000, 15000... you pick

May not even cover 1 mile if cants see whats on the floor or beyond the trees. So! its a nice story. The more modern lithium battery's

Doesn't run on batteries just a 1.2 HP push motor, fancy motor. It would see them with MWIR through the tree very easily.

My main point is if BF was even remotely real we have what it takes to find them. We are not talking millions of dollars here either.

What team bigfoot? No body here cares of bigfoot is alive or not. Or you talking the stories, both the kind people tell themselves or the whole here before the natives of the continent. Even the indian tribes all had tales of bigfoot. #, go back some few thousands of years to ancient summer. And the very first story that mankind has preserved from the oldest known civilization, the inventors of writing themselfs?

You missed my point again.... geez... each decade passes and no BF...like I said in the past maybe, but today naw...

Geez all that. And yet according to statistics. At least 1,600 people go missing each and every year, while on vacation or traveling through the US national parks. And poof! Gone just like that. Yall may want to get on the case of solving were and why almost two thousand people go missing and cant be found without a single trace, every dam year.

So you don't believe me...lol never mind.... I'm giving you info what I do for a living take it or leave it.

All those fancy new additions to the drone thingy? Oh ya. Maybe they can crack this case of the always missing about 1,600 people vanishing, each and every year. You know? Give or take a few hundred people. But lets just say 2,000 for all the various reasons.

WTF are you talking about....lol

a reply to: Xtrozero

15 hours at 2000, 5000, 10000, 15000... you pick

15 hours at 20 feet to 200 feet. Anything above 1000 feet would be kind of useless.

Doesn't run on batteries just a 1.2 HP push motor, fancy motor. It would see them with MWIR through the tree very easily. My main point is if BF was even remotely real we have what it takes to find them. We are not talking millions of dollars here either.

1.2 HP or 1/2 HP motor? I have a grinder in those old 2hp motor. Its fast and the tongue is good. But if I wanted to I could stop it with my hand as long as I wear gloves and grab the wheel.

So 1/2 motor. I guess that would fly about 10 pounds for hours. Depending on the battery. But not nowere near 15hrs straight. Unless these drones are ridiculously light? The draft at 2000 feet, may blow them off course. Also, to high up to really see anything. The whole object is to cover whats on the ground every inch of the way. Not to look at hills full of trees or anything.

WTF are you talking about....lol

What I am talking about is that drones have been used and are used in these missing people who go missing by the thousands every year. And so far. None of the drones have been able to find them? So? # some use it for hunting or even hunting goats.

And its pretty useless, its hard to spot a goat with them in goat country, or it seems to find missing people in forests. Or anything really. I think you are way overestimating these little toys you have or are out there. Your confusing the world out there to the manopoly cookie cutter, neighborhoods and cities people life in.

To something, thats the opposite of that. Your not covering any area or anything even with those specks on the drones. And no most of those drones dont get 15hrs of flight time. A #ing tesla does not get that much air time. Commercial flights using tons of jet fuel get those kind of flight times.

So ya. And even if they did if its not at ground level, in a habitat they inhabit, ie dense forests and high passes, or caverns and caves. So basically by your logic. If I take a flight to NY right now, and look out the window while I fly over montana, I can see the bears taking a # in the woods?

Maybe if I get some binoculars with infra red. Maybe I can see a red spot on the ground behind a bush.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

15 hours at 20 feet to 200 feet. Anything above 1000 feet would be kind of useless.

Sure 500 feet works too. Why do you say useless. Back around 2010 our IR cameras were very good up to 2500 feet and today it really doesn't matter up to 7000 feet. The main deal is at about 2000 feet and up you really can't see or hear the drone, at 500 you might be able to slightly. I really think you are making statements you basically know nothing about. These are not the 1000 dollar HD cam drones. The cameras cost about 300,000, but my main point is it is very doable and a discovery to the world of BF would be the discovery of the century. so a few million is nothing for something like that if they were even remotely real.

1.2 HP or 1/2 HP motor? I have a grinder in those old 2hp motor. Its fast and the tongue is good. But if I wanted to I could stop it with my hand as long as I wear gloves and grab the wheel.

1.2 HP, you would lose your fingers if the prop hit you....

So 1/2 motor. I guess that would fly about 10 pounds for hours. Depending on the battery. But not nowere near 15hrs straight. Unless these drones are ridiculously light? The draft at 2000 feet, may blow them off course. Also, to high up to really see anything. The whole object is to cover whats on the ground every inch of the way. Not to look at hills full of trees or anything.

About 60 pounds with a 5 kg gas tank. You really only need about 13 hours as you typically swap out the drones around dusk and dawn from MRIR to EO then back again. Now if you want both cameras at the same time you are talking about a 150 pound drone and it also does 15 hours+. Nicer cameras and both packages. At a mile away I could zoom in on a single flower nice...

What I am talking about is that drones have been used and are used in these missing people who go missing by the thousands every year. And so far. None of the drones have been able to find them? So? # some use it for hunting or even hunting goats.

Missing people sure if they want us. We have used them around mount Hood looking for a missing hiker, but the drones are still not cheap and you get into some FAA limitations that would need to be cleared up. We have used them to find fish, count seals and hunt illegal fishing in the artic, drug boats along South America. We have a payload that can scan 1 mile wide strip of ocean flying at 80 miles per hour and find a coke can, or a person. Mostly though used for military support of troops. We can scan ahead of a group of soldiers sending live intel back of everything around them, and I mean everything.

To something, thats the opposite of that. Your not covering any area or anything even with those specks on the drones. And no most of those drones dont get 15hrs of flight time. A #ing tesla does not get that much air time. Commercial flights using tons of jet fuel get those kind of flight times.

Why do you keep on saying this...lol We use to get 20+ hours, but we are heavier now with newer equipment so we can only get 15 hours, but much better cameras.

This is from the Boeing website and this drone is 55 pounds.

ScanEagle Capabilities

Delivers persistent imagery on land or at sea for a variety of commercial and defense missions at a fraction of the cost of other surveillance methods
Latest ScanEagle features upgraded avionics, expanded payload options and a new heavy fuel purpose-built propulsion system that dramatically improves reliability and performance.
Can operate up to 19,500 feet (5,943 meters) and loiter over a battlefield for extended missions of 24+ hours, depending on system configuration
Launches autonomously by a catapult launcher – no runway required – and is retrieved via a patented SkyHook recovery system
Flies in extreme environments and supports a range of imager configurations that can be quickly modified in the field
ScanEagle Performance

Deployed with the U.S. Marine Corps since 2004 and the U.S. Navy since 2005
6,000+ shipboard flights
48,000+ shipboard flight hours
Operating on 13 different classes of ships
In service in more than 20 countries around the world
First unmanned aircraft to perform an FAA-approved commercial beyond visual line of sight flight in the U.S. National Airspace System
Successfully used by civil and commercial organizations for:
Fighting fires
Monitoring railways
Supporting oil and gas and mining operations
Assisting in environmental and agriculture efforts

Maybe if I get some binoculars with infra red. Maybe I can see a red spot on the ground behind a bush.

Would 250 zoom with IR in a wave length that is 10 times better than your typical IR you buy work?

a reply to: Xtrozero

The cameras cost about 300,000, but my main point is it is very doable and a discovery to the world of BF would be the discovery of the century. so a few million is nothing for something like that if they were even remotely real.

Ever seen any wild animals while looking at google maps or earth?

1.2 HP, you would lose your fingers if the prop hit you....

Nah! not unless the blades are steel and sharpened? But those plastic compound ones they would leave a welt. But thats all. Also, HP has nothing to do with speed of a propeller. RPMs would. YOu can get a motor in 1700 RMPs for that 1.2 HP motor. And you can get a 3,500 RMPs for the same horse power in the same 1.2 HP motor.

How heavy are these drones? And you still did not say if they run on jet fuel or something else? But anyways.

Why do you keep on saying this...lol We use to get 20+ hours, but we are heavier now with newer equipment so we can only get 15 hours, but much better cameras. This is from the Boeing website and this drone is 55 pounds.

OK so one question was answered. 55 pounds. Running for 20 hours you said? Is that continuous nonstop flight? Or with breaks in between? Anyways.

Would 250 zoom with IR in a wave length that is 10 times better than your typical IR you buy work?

Sure, get up and going. Maybe with all that tech, they may actually find a missing vacationing person in these states of ours. Also make them rock proof. Because were not trying to find the tops of trees here. Or what redish pixel is either a human, or a horse. Were trying to find bigfoot. So you will need to head low and find #. Not just fly overhead and that digitized picturesques film of things and speculate which blob is under which wet tree either A: Bigfoot or B:a toad.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Ever seen any wild animals while looking at google maps or earth?

I can zoom in on one flower a mile away...I can see the heat of your foot prints as you walk, I can pick you out floating in the ocean within a 1000 sq miles within hours, I can recognize your face at 8,000 feet in total darkness...can you understand the ramification of all that? You are trying to debate the wrong side of reality here my friend.

Nah! not unless the blades are steel and sharpened? But those plastic compound ones they would leave a welt. But thats all. Also, HP has nothing to do with speed of a propeller. RPMs would. YOu can get a motor in 1700 RMPs for that 1.2 HP motor. And you can get a 3,500 RMPs for the same horse power in the same 1.2 HP motor.

Dude they are spinning at 6000 RPM during cruise.... welt...lol You have zero clue to what you are talking about, but it will take off your finger...It has actually happened.

How heavy are these drones? And you still did not say if they run on jet fuel or something else? But anyways.

55lbs and 150lbs, both can stay in the air 15+ hours, but you get a better camera and dual capabilities with the 150 lbs one. They have two fuel types C-10 which is racing gas, or heavy fuels which is basically JP-5 jet fuel. On ship they use heavy fuels due to the flash point of the other, and many big military ships use gas turbine engines as their power so lots of fuel available.

Question was answered. 55 pounds. Running for 20 hours you said? Is that continuous nonstop flight? Or with breaks in between? Anyways.

As I said it is now about 15+ due to heavier/better cameras, 10 years ago it was 20+, but that is continuous.

Sure, get up and going. Maybe with all that tech, they may actually find a missing vacationing person in these states of ours. Also make them rock proof. Because were not trying to find the tops of trees here. Or what redish pixel is either a human, or a horse. Were trying to find bigfoot. So you will need to head low and find #. Not just fly overhead and that digitized picturesques film of things and speculate which blob is under which wet tree either A: Bigfoot or B:a toad.

Trees would not hide heat source and as I said many many times it is not a blob...This is about what it would look like at 5,000 feet to give you an idea of how clear it would be in total dark. I also said back in the day when it was just a blob heat source you still learn what is what by how hot it is, how fast it moves, what its pattern is.

a reply to: Xtrozero

What are you even arguing? Freaking drones cant even keep up with a pigeon, not unless its stationary and squatting and #ing.

I think, while you believe all that. Lets just say they couldn't even find Osama using drones. And there was basically sand, some caves some camels here and there, maybe a rat, and you can spot anybody by eye from a mile away, as there is nothing and not even hills in the way, on a whole dam country.

There is a difference between, technicalities. And real life. Logistically you will need to send out a few thousand of these drones, at all times at all altitudes low and even in ground level. Just to cover what amounts to basically a park.

Or else, it means pretty much nothing.

Trees would not hide heat source and as I said many many times it is not a blob...This is about what it would look like at 5,000 feet to give you an idea of how clear it would be in total dark. I also said back in the day when it was just a blob heat source you still learn what is what by how hot it is, how fast it moves, what its pattern is.

Whats your point? I dont want to see a bunch of people walking on a street. I can see that without a 250x zoom from 5,000 miles up. It makes no sense. And well, would be pretty hard to zoom through a tree even with a infrared camera to see whats on the other side of it. I want to see if there is any bigfoots in the dam woods out there.

So basically, all those features. While cool maybe on low lands or grasslands and deserts. Are not very useful outside of those terrains. ie, the kind of terrains drones can really cover. Wide open land areas like cities, and towns. All the dam places bigfoots dont hang around or travel through.

Its a cool theory dude. One which may work extremely well. On paper. In real actual scenarios or zones? Not so much.