Bigfoot posture

a reply to: one4all

How cool good luck on your adventure. Get your mind right
and like I said pray for safe passage and project good thoughts
as you camp and research. These things matter cause they pick up
on it.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Pretty sure we passed that milestone away's back with the govt's satellites.
Despite the massive manpower it would take to review that much data, there is no way our gov't hasn't gotten loads of pics of them.

The "Patty Massacre" is still mostly up for debate. Bill Munn's has been promoting it for many years now but does NOT have iron clad proof. You are correct there is more footage that has not been available to the public, however there is not anything ironclad on it indicating a clan massacre either.

I admire your defense of the PG films authenticity but you need to pick your battles based on facts. Not someone else conjectures.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: putnam6
You do relise the middle one is of a man in a costume. The maker told all about it after the buyer/film maker had passed away. If you look carefully, he is nothing like the other two apes in ether build or posture.

While I do believe in Bigfoot, that still is from a known fake video.

IIRC the guy who "claimed" to be the suits maker was proven to be hoaxing it.
What was proven is that we didn't have the materials available then & a suit STILL hasn't been able to be produced to replicate the PG footage today. In fact there was a TV special on it with multiple Hollywood professional special effects/costumers who said it can't be done.

Just for conspiracy's sake, let's suppose that Big Foot is some kind of physical creature, a giant ape or some early hominid species. Let's also consider that due to being harassed, hunted, and driven off for hundreds of thousands of years by modern Homo Sapiens, they have adapted by being nocturnal, shy and evasive toward any human contact or activity. Continuing further, due to their high degree of intelligence and wary nature, they have remained hidden and keep hard evidence of their existence out of human hands everywhere they have been seen.

Given you can go with all that, it's not a huge leap to believe there are multi-national big foot hit squads killing off big foot "clans" in order for the forestry industry to exploit virgin lumber in big foot territory. I can totally believe that over the idea that UFOs brought them here or that they are spiritual beings that sometimes materialize in the presence of observers.

originally posted by: Randyvine

Fair enough my good man.

You should check out how Russian people know of these beings.
They aren't covered up over there as they are here. They are
studied far more.

It is still all basically a paranormal phenomena and as each decade passes we still can not find one, or even bones of one. Some explain this off as they are interdimensional beings, but in any case they are right up there with fairies and other mystical creatures as to what we have as proof.

I actually live in Bigfoot country near Mt Adams Wa which is suppose to be a big hot spot.

originally posted by: one4all

Some First Nations respect and aknowledge Bigfoot....historically....however today many are as clueless as non-First Nations People are.Those on Reservations exposed to Bigfoot and those who repeat retain and respect their histories and stories are the First Nations People who are in the know and yes these People should be respected and heeded.


You are correct they are real and yes definately puck science you cannot trust it we have been lied to for our entire lives and should all be absolutely furious about it.

And yet not one body or even DNA at a reputable university to show physical proof. Like all conspiracies I tend to look at the logistics etc involved and in this case you are suggesting 100s if not 1000s of people involved all in the know, have access to physical evidence and they are all silent and the physical evidence is perfectly hidden from main stream.
Even killing them off to harvesting virgin lumber is a dying excuse as to why we have not found one.

I suggest you get a few drones. The ones I fly are 300k to 2 million each, but even for 500 to 1000 bucks they are 1040p crazy good and you can cover a ton of area in a heart beat. I would get some IR ones too as it would be easier to find them in the woods.

a reply to: Xtrozero

If I might suggest something. Falling short of a dare as I would
recline from getting anyone into a predicament with these
beings. if you haven't already done so. Take one person with
you able bodied. Go deep in those woods and by deep i mean at least
a mile or two from all civilization. spend one night. Then tell us all
about it. It may be uneventful. But the season is perfect right now
for it not to be. Pray for safe passage I can't express how important
that is. Also be armed. And let loved ones know where you will be.
You seem willing but just a bit to science minded. Let that mind be
challenged. also we never find the bodies of bears dear or anything
else in the woods. Only very rarely. So it stands to perfect reason that
if the intuition I spoke of already is present in these beings. Then
they don't just die in the woods. They know when and have a place in
the earth they go to. So your reasoning there is of no use. Nothing
but humans can kill them. So how is you would expect to find
a body? That's actually ridiculous considering they are intelligent.

a reply to: Xtrozero

My condolences living in BF Central!!!
altho it's beautiful country let me say your "reclusive neighbors" have "issues". Individually they can be OK, but in groups it's a crap shoot.

There are enough drones out now that it's been curious we haven't been blasted with pics & YouTubers claiming their 15 minutes of fame. But then again so many tech items have been built with "back doors" it's possible those images get either deleted or forwarded automatically somewhere other than to the drone operator.

It's lazy-thinking to say that the BF delete the images. BF's messing with images only really happened when we went to digital. Back in the analog era too many people did get clear images. So following this we either have to consider that messing with electronics is either a relatively new skill for the BF, or they can't with actual film. The way the BF have consistently behaved regarding not wanting their pictures taken rules out the idea that them caring is another recent behavior.

Pretty sure lumping the BF in with the Fae, inter diminutional beings is also lazy thinking.
We're seeing them in the physical, they're carting off livestock in the physical, they're leaving tracks in the physical,
they're most of the time doing physical things. Just because a BF tends to hang out around good water sources would be pretty nonsensical if they indeed came from another dimension because if that were the case every one lock stock
& barrel would have been wiped out by our diseases. Plus is there another unwritten rule that (or should be) that begs the question "Since when do inter-dimentsionl being's NEED to hydrate???? They'd be in the non-corporal line up of
suspects. Since when do non-corporal need physical feeding? Or water?

originally posted by: Caver78
Pretty sure lumping the BF in with the Fae, inter diminutional beings is also lazy thinking.
We're seeing them in the physical, they're carting off livestock in the physical, they're leaving tracks in the physical,
they're most of the time doing physical things. Just because a BF tends to hang out around good water sources would be pretty nonsensical if they indeed came from another dimension because if that were the case every one lock stock
& barrel would have been wiped out by our diseases. Plus is there another unwritten rule that (or should be) that begs the question "Since when do inter-dimentsionl being's NEED to hydrate???? They'd be in the non-corporal line up of
suspects. Since when do non-corporal need physical feeding? Or water?

I'm pretty sure Drones record images correctly.... It is real time too so the operator is watching whether or not it is saved. I think a grand conspiracy that deletes pictures is even more far fetched than inter-dimensional beings, so here we are...Lets say the pictures do not get deleted while no one in 2021 can get a picture and they are not inter-dimensional beings, what does that say. We need to press on with the next step in the hypothesis as to why we seem to not find them...

a reply to: Xtrozero

There not that good at all. Most drones run out of just in a hour or so. Also you can hear a drone coming and the buzzing from miles away. Its really not something that is hard to avoid completely if you wanted to.

And well going out the back yard or a the local state forested park in next town over is not really cutting it. Either way. Its like taking a camera with you to try and film fish swimming at night.

its a cool toy brah! But its a toy.

Also you can try catching them swim across the baring sea at the tip were you can go from canada alasks across to Siberia Russia. Ya at least a hundred mile swim, in ice cold freezing cold water. Quite a trip. Your drone will run out of juice trying to make it across and end up as soon to be rusted and lumpy piece of plastic and metal at the bottom of the sea somewhere.

So ya. If people were serious of spotting bigfoot. Its not that hard. Though it would likley entail them to leaving there nice and cozy cough in front of the computer and maybe commuting some few hundreds of miles then getting out and walking some more and yes possibly in the double digits of miles. Then you will be in the thick of it.

Just bring a month long luncheonettes with you. Would not want to catch the death by famine disease on the trip. Its a cool toy you got brah.

Get one of these, ADIFO. Its based on the old saucer designs from the 40s. You know the nazi disks. But well, like the video says it can go at subsonic speeds and supersonic speeds. And all that without creating a sonic boom. May need some rocket fuel, so thats a bummer not long flight time in these models.


But now that would make a much more quite and better drone then the ones they sell at walmart or Best Buy.

Bigfoot brah its like the ninja of the forest. Though who knows right? Not you obviously. But life may just be more then what is shown on the TV. That is more then Trump and Biden exist out there in the wide world. But for 90% of the human population. That may be the total sum of there world and existence. Whats going on with the dudes on the boob tube.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

There not that good at all. Most drones run out of just in a hour or so. Also you can hear a drone coming and the buzzing from miles away. Its really not something that is hard to avoid completely if you wanted to.

And well going out the back yard or a the local state forested park in next town over is not really cutting it. Either way. Its like taking a camera with you to try and film fish swimming at night.

its a cool toy brah! But its a toy.

Well first I'm not your brah...

Well if someone is serious like a university or funded org then go professional. The drones I fly can stay up 13 hours and you can't see or hear them. There is a wide range of cameras from EO to MWIR to radar mapping etc...

500 to 1000 will buy you a very nice toy but how about 50k or 300k?

But I agree everything is at the armature hobby level, why?

Also you can try catching them swim across the baring sea at the tip were you can go from canada alasks across to Siberia Russia. Ya at least a hundred mile swim, in ice cold freezing cold water. Quite a trip. Your drone will run out of juice trying to make it across and end up as soon to be rusted and lumpy piece of plastic and metal at the bottom of the sea somewhere.

We actually go seal counting and hunt for illegal fishing up way up north with the CG. Our drones run on 1.2 HP engines, so they are not battery powered.

Just bring a month long luncheonettes with you. Would not want to catch the death by famine disease on the trip. Its a cool toy you got brah.

Mount Adams in WA is about 50 miles from my house so I do not need to go too far....Weekend trip would be fine. Plus I'm 60 and know how to camp and hike just fine...lol

Bigfoot brah its like the ninja of the forest. Though who knows right? Not you obviously. But life may just be more then what is shown on the TV. That is more then Trump and Biden exist out there in the wide world. But for 90% of the human population. That may be the total sum of there world and existence. Whats going on with the dudes on the boob tube.

One hell of a ninja in 2021 and still no solid evidence. That is my main point... I'm very open to suggestions, but we are stuck in only the witness view point as our evidence and that is about the same if we talk about angels or fairies.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well then if those drones are that versatile. Then really, I guess the only explanation is that people are just to lazy to really bother and look. Its hard to know what people consider looking for Bigfoot.

And well, there are plenty of bigfoot videos out there. But you know, video evidence is only evidence that videos exist. Nothing more nothing less.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Well then if those drones are that versatile. Then really, I guess the only explanation is that people are just to lazy to really bother and look. Its hard to know what people consider looking for Bigfoot.

And well, there are plenty of bigfoot videos out there. But you know, video evidence is only evidence that videos exist. Nothing more nothing less.

Could be, but we have people that spend millions on ocean voyages exploring deep ocean and that looks to be 10x more difficult and cost than exploring local forest. There are also clubs where I live that do search for BF, but nothing other than night noises....

Is BF that good or we that bad, or BF really is a not there...

The question of "why we seem not to find them."

Gonna start by pointing out your question phased that way is woefully generic.

- Did you mean why don't individuals with cameras & drones find them?
- Why don't scientist's find them?
- Find a body?
-Find a live one on a hike, or on demand?

I'm NOT being pedantic. By not posing questions specifically you intentionally cause needless discussion/arguments that detracts from the subject. It's divisive in a subject matter that is already a verbal war zone.

This thread, being typically predictably schizophrenic has brought up interdimensionl BF, ninja BF, hiding BF, fake BF costumes, hanging their being real on the hook of posture. Think we should add portals or orbs too??
FFS!!!

If people are going to get serious we could start by asking the right questions. We could start by knocking off the "bull-snip" & ego working from information already known.


People they've scared never want to see them again.
People who have romanticized them gifting ect...come off as the BF's disinformation agents or crazies & are
easily written off.

What's going on is they will do anything to survive.
By whatever means necessary, they have no qualms about it.
Can't really fault them for that.

Their agenda is a separate question.

The orbs & woo whether real or illusion serves their purpose, so separate question.

The entities compelled by them or attached to them serve their purposes, separate question.

The problem is we NEVER separate BF as a whole into more defined components so we lump it all into one big
tangle then insist on asking the wrong questions!! Then argue about the wrong questions!!!
another classic Achilles heel of ours.
One they make bank on.

Because the BF operate on a long timeline, very much like Russia or China does, we're too used to easy quick answers, we are screwing this up royally. Their purposes are LONG TERM. Decades long.
Most everyone who's gotten into this, time wise been in it a nanosecond.
(which BTW I am including myself)

Even describing what's known about their behavior needs to be applied to "what purpose" of each incident
starting with survival/immediate purpose, moving onto pieces of other applicable possibilities.

Without biases, without emotion.
another of our dependable (for them) Achilles heels.

I don't personally think this makes them smarter than us, it just means they've gotten our patterns down pat. Which if you look at it realistically wasn't very difficult. We're just as locked into routine as a herd of cows.
We're just as predictable as a herd of wildebeast in Africa.

KNOWN:
www.isu.edu...
www.isu.edu...
ronmorehead.com...
www.scientificamerican.com...

We have enough information to determine a real as yet unclassified hominid is residing in North America in area's on the periphery of homo sapien populations.

Continuing to be befuddled/besotted with stick structures ( like preschoolers with tinker toys & Lincoln logs) debates on their existance, continuing to insist they're a simple monkey is just time wasting BS. No the civilian scientific community hasn't gotten their hands on a body yet for study.

Why not?
Quite simply because the civilian community is being stonewalled. By who I won't speculate because the info is anecdotal, yet at some point it'll hit the tipping point & become unarguable.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird
"And well going out the back yard or a the local state forested park in next town over is not really cutting it. Either way. Its like taking a camera with you to try and film fish swimming at night."

Little bone to pick here.
While you aren't going to find them in EVERY neighborhood they have been getting much closer to suburbia than most realize precisely due to the myth/disinfo perpetrated that they ONLY live in remote geographies. Fact of the matter is they live anywhere they damn well want too.

To believe otherwise is just a false sense of security.
Just as prey animals have adapted to living in close proximity to us so did the BF. Predators live where the living is easy.
While hunting for humans is restricted dependent on population,state & city regulations, it isn't for BF. Deer herds are exploding in these "no hunt" area's as are turkey, raccoons, possum, groundhogs ect.
The added bonus is we aren't even looking for them.

Big mistake.

originally posted by: Caver78

- Did you mean why don't individuals with cameras & drones find them?
- Why don't scientist's find them?
- Find a body?
-Find a live one on a hike, or on demand?

I'm NOT being pedantic. By not posing questions specifically you intentionally cause needless discussion/arguments that detracts from the subject. It's divisive in a subject matter that is already a verbal war zone.

You pick any which one you like...

Here is a question...

Why isn't BF a known categorized species as every other big creature seems to be, outside of the oceans?

What's going on is they will do anything to survive.
By whatever means necessary, they have no qualms about it.
Can't really fault them for that.

Because the BF operate on a long timeline, very much like Russia or China does, we're too used to easy quick answers, we are screwing this up royally. Their purposes are LONG TERM. Decades long.
Most everyone who's gotten into this, time wise been in it a nanosecond.

Even describing what's known about their behavior needs to be applied to "what purpose" of each incident
starting with survival/immediate purpose, moving onto pieces of other applicable possibilities.
(which BTW I am including myself)

This above you say factually, so have you lived with them to study and identify all this? How do you know that their true purpose is not to stay in a cave a F all day? How do you know anything about the behavior of a creature never really found?

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: putnam6
You do relise the middle one is of a man in a costume. The maker told all about it after the buyer/film maker had passed away. If you look carefully, he is nothing like the other two apes in ether build or posture.

While I do believe in Bigfoot, that still is from a known fake video.

Links or your lying.
2nd line

#1 already answered.
Civilian Science has been stonewalled. When you said "we" I'll guess you meant that? & not any gov't agency or any major natural resource corporation?

Yes I talk about them factually.
Why wouldn't I?

You keep insisting the creature has never been found.
Plenty of people have managed to find them whether, willing or not, hence all the BF reports.

The fact you state they have never been found is the type of "bull-snip" we should have moved past. Even Meldrum finally gave up denying they aren't real. Knowing their purpose wasn't rocket science either.
Every living thing fights to survive.
It's a no-brainer.

Discerning behavior also isn't rocket science.
Combine all the information in reports, couple that with your own personal encounters, talk off the record with people
who've had them move onto their property.

Everything you've questioned is covered by sheer work. Do the work, you start getting better data. Better data better working hypothesis. The Russians & French have us beat hands down on the research.

originally posted by: Caver78
#1 already answered.
Civilian Science has been stonewalled. When you said "we" I'll guess you meant that? & not any gov't agency or any major natural resource corporation?

Why would they, sounds to convenient to explain away why no BFs have ever been physically found.

Yes I talk about them factually.
Why wouldn't I?

You are not just talking about them factually, but about their behaviors, what they think, how they respond etc, and that is why I asked if you lived with them to study and know this.

You keep insisting the creature has never been found.
Plenty of people have managed to find them whether, willing or not, hence all the BF reports.

Yes, yes...eyewitness reports, that really mean nothing unless you have further evidence, kind of like election fraud. eyewitnesses support hard evidence, and not just being the sole evidence.

The fact you state they have never been found is the type of "bull-snip" we should have moved past. Even Meldrum finally gave up denying they aren't real. Knowing their purpose wasn't rocket science either.
Every living thing fights to survive.
It's a no-brainer.

I asked that if they are real why are they not categorized as all other big creatures are by science. The answer is because we have never actually physically found one, do you disagree?

Everything you've questioned is covered by sheer work. Do the work, you start getting better data. Better data better working hypothesis. The Russians & French have us beat hands down on the research.

OK show me something that is actually BF... Its like UFOs at some point we kind of need something alien don't we, or just live on eyewitness reports forever I guess.