There is no outer space.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

They aren't there. "Satellites" are the ionosphere, which, besides, is undergoing artificial heating being em. excited.

Global Warming has nothing to do with carbon dioxide, if anything it would provoke luxuriant forests (which are ravaged on purpose) shielding us from angry Sun and creating a benign climate.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

They aren't there. "Satellites" are the ionosphere, which, besides, is undergoing artificial heating being em. excited.

Global Warming has nothing to do with carbon dioxide, if anything it would provoke luxuriant forests (which are ravaged on purpose) shielding us from angry Sun and creating a benign climate.

You have posted nothing credible as I change the channel on my satellite TV receiver.

You didn’t answer
Then where does my satellite GPS signal come from, and satellite Internet, satellite radio, satellite TV, sat phone too?

Or. How does weather satellite work?

And here’s your list.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

They had radios in the XIXth century and transcontinental broadcasting by the early XXth. Thank goodness for the ionosphere.

MacroVision-2000 absurd? "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." (Luke 18.27)

P.S.: libgen.rs...

That’s not the argument...

This is the whole argument

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You

You're merely TV-gazing a skydome

With my own eyes? How does that work with radio astronomy?

As I witness meteorites falling to earth. And comets flying about the solar system. As I use satellites hundred miles above earth, and the broadcasting?

But there are other means to track man made objects in space....

How to cast a wider net for tracking space junk
There are only so many hours of the day you can use to track orbital debris. Some scientists think they’ve found more hours.

www.technologyreview.com...

Man has been in orbit around the earth. And in humans true fashion we have left our junk behind to prove it

You

The TV in question is very high resolution:


Impossibly big. Impossible to power with the current power grid. With no record of material and expenditures to make such a TV. With meteorites, comets, stars, super nova and other heavenly phenomena recorded long before such technology was available. With large physical evidence like meteorite impact sites in earth.

And what space is outer of this BS tv you claim exists? What would that be calked.

what you believe are far away objects are but very small images displayed on a futuristic monitor, yes monitor, for you're being closely watched.

Too bad there is physical evidence of items from outer space, and objects in outer space emitting radiation. Like pulsar stars.

You

P.S.: Do you get the esoteric meaning of the above song? Who is the singer? Read the lyrics.

Has nothing to do with songs.

Everything with how you can not debate intelligently about items on your list...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What’s the items you have not answered to? Just from me?

You

The Bible tells that the sky is a "raqia", akin to a mirror, is impervium-solid, a sea of glass mingled with fire.

Really, what Bible verse, what word are you interpreting, and what is the context.


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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What does this have to do with “Ceres”

You have one year to prove this is something other than a comet.

Newly found Comet Leonard might become 2021’s brightest

earthsky.org...

Exciting news! A newly found comet might become 2021’s brightest comet. Astronomer Greg Leonard discovered the comet that now bears his name – C/2021 A1 (Leonard) – on January 3, 2021 at the Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona. Astronomers report that discovery images show a tail for the comet, suggesting we might see a nice tail as Comet Leonard draws closer to the Earth and sun. The comet is still far away, currently between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars, heading inward. It’ll reach perihelion, its closest approach to the sun, around January 3, 2022. And so we’ll have a whole year to watch this comet get brighter, and brighter

————
originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

The North Star changes because of the Earth's precession, so tell us Astronomers, not because it itself moves.

Rayleigh should also scatter reflected light in the Earth's atmosphere, and we shouldn't be seeing what NASA shows us, but rather a Neptune like, opaque blue ball.

Or still doesn’t change the fact the Doppler or Red light shift does occur.

Redshift and blueshift describe how light shifts toward shorter or longer wavelengths as objects in space (such as stars or galaxies) move closer or farther away from us. The concept is key to charting the universe's expansion.

www.space.com...

Vs

Rayleigh scattering (/ˈreɪli/ RAY-lee), named after the nineteenth-century British physicist Lord Rayleigh (John William Strutt),[1] is the predominantly elastic scattering of light or other electromagnetic radiation by particles much smaller than the wavelength of the radiation. For light frequencies well below the resonance frequency of the scattering particle (normal dispersion regime), the amount of scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength.

Funny. The sky looks blue, but direct observation of the sun is yellowish....


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Why is the direct light from the moon white?

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What are you babbling about?

Exactly where do comets come from. How do the travel about the solar system? Where do meteorites come from? How do they make it to earth.

Where does the background radiation of space come from?
———-

I have viewed the Andromeda Galaxy with my own telescope. If it was not a galaxy, what is it?

————-

What does that have to do with me looking up at the night sky, and pondering what I can see with the unaided eye, by binoculars, or telescope? Comets, planets, moons, binary stars, star clusters, nebula. Super novas that appear from time to time. Stars do move. Amateur and professional radio astronomy detect pulsars, radiation from stars, and the background radiation of the universe.

a reply to: neutronflux

All of what you believe you're seeing are mere phantasms living in a thin raqia a few hundreds of km. upwards.

Your metaphysical outlook is wrong, these beliefs held by you are symptoms of this condition.
Belief in falsities is gravity, it drags one down the "foodchain", casts to the low levels of the hierarchy, keeps him in the chains of falsehood. Truth cannot be the share of the multitude, for it is precious, hence rare.

"And ye shall know the truth"; saith the Lord Jesus, ", and the truth shall make you free."

Evil rulers, thrones, etc. are not interested in allowing the masses their believing truths.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

All of what you believe you're seeing are mere phantasms living in a thin raqia a few hundreds of km. upwards.

Good thing I mentioned meteorites that actually fall to earth.

Comets which related to space dust, and recorded cases of the earth passing through comet tails.

And we see the influence of the sun and planets’ on comets. In the form of gravity.

Recorded events of comets being destroyed by the sun, or striking planets.

And good thing I mentioned the background radiation of space. And point sources of radiation like stars and pulsars.


You

Your metaphysical outlook is wrong,

Quote where I mentioned anything metaphysical to be wrong about?

You

Evil rulers, thrones, etc. are not interested in allowing the masses their believing truths.

Mean like you stealing glory from God by limiting the universe to your fishbowl existence? And boxing God in by your limited imagination? And telling God what God can, and Cannot create?

a reply to: neutronflux

Another flat earther?

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You trying to prove the existence of a spiritual being by declaring what the being can create physically by how other people marvel at the beauty of the universe, and you dictating what other people witness is a lie. And by your labeling people gazing at the wonderment of space as evil?

Man, your F’d up.

I didn’t know the devil could create like God. I though evil could only corrupt and destroy? So when I ponder the existence of a star we call Betelgeuse, that is what to you?

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: neutronflux

Another flat earther?

I think more like a person starving for attention that thought they could get a bunch of conspiracists to jump on some flat earth propaganda.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

All of what you believe you're seeing are mere phantasms living in a thin raqia a few hundreds of km. upwards.

Citation required.

Your metaphysical outlook is wrong,

On whose say so?

these beliefs held by you are symptoms of this condition.
Belief in falsities is gravity, it drags one down the "foodchain", casts to the low levels of the hierarchy, keeps him in the chains of falsehood. Truth cannot be the share of the multitude, for it is precious, hence rare.

Those are certainly words. You have yet to demonstrate that your understanding of the truth remotely resembles reality. Truth is not rare, it is demonstrable and verifiable, you have done neither.

"And ye shall know the truth"; saith the Lord Jesus, ", and the truth shall make you free."

Truth will set you free. Trolling will not. Jesus had lots to say about how to conduct yourself as a person. Science, not so much.

Evil rulers, thrones, etc. are not interested in allowing the masses their believing truths.

How do we know that's not your plan? Were you sent here to tempt us away from the light? You've shown us no truth.

faculty.gordon.edu...

There is no outer space. The common belief just is plain obviously wrong, already the unbounded vacuum's suction* would have disintegrated all things in order to replenish itself. Your metaphysical worldview is incorrect.

* Why do electrons move? So called "holes" or positive charge sucks them. Why are goods exchanged? Money (the essence of which is nothingness) sucks them. Man is moved by women's attractive power.

Knowledge, wisdom, sucks one upwards, he climbs up the blocage chain (or blockchain if you prefer), and, being unconstrained by flesh and blood, rules the uncouth imbeciles i.e., he exercises wisdom, wastes wisdom, loses wisdom, is at last freed from them only to fall again into the pit, having expended his levitative capital.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

Your growing list....

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

They aren't there. "Satellites" are the ionosphere, which, besides, is undergoing artificial heating being em. excited.

Global Warming has nothing to do with carbon dioxide, if anything it would provoke luxuriant forests (which are ravaged on purpose) shielding us from angry Sun and creating a benign climate.

You have posted nothing credible as I change the channel on my satellite TV receiver.

You didn’t answer
Then where does my satellite GPS signal come from, and satellite Internet, satellite radio, satellite TV, sat phone too?

Or. How does weather satellite work?

And here’s your list.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

They had radios in the XIXth century and transcontinental broadcasting by the early XXth. Thank goodness for the ionosphere.

MacroVision-2000 absurd? "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." (Luke 18.27)

P.S.: libgen.rs...

That’s not the argument...

This is the whole argument

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You

You're merely TV-gazing a skydome

With my own eyes? How does that work with radio astronomy?

As I witness meteorites falling to earth. And comets flying about the solar system. As I use satellites hundred miles above earth, and the broadcasting?

But there are other means to track man made objects in space....

How to cast a wider net for tracking space junk
There are only so many hours of the day you can use to track orbital debris. Some scientists think they’ve found more hours.

www.technologyreview.com...

Man has been in orbit around the earth. And in humans true fashion we have left our junk behind to prove it

You

The TV in question is very high resolution:


Impossibly big. Impossible to power with the current power grid. With no record of material and expenditures to make such a TV. With meteorites, comets, stars, super nova and other heavenly phenomena recorded long before such technology was available. With large physical evidence like meteorite impact sites in earth.

And what space is outer of this BS tv you claim exists? What would that be calked.

what you believe are far away objects are but very small images displayed on a futuristic monitor, yes monitor, for you're being closely watched.

Too bad there is physical evidence of items from outer space, and objects in outer space emitting radiation. Like pulsar stars.

You

P.S.: Do you get the esoteric meaning of the above song? Who is the singer? Read the lyrics.

Has nothing to do with songs.

Everything with how you can not debate intelligently about items on your list...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What’s the items you have not answered to? Just from me?

You

The Bible tells that the sky is a "raqia", akin to a mirror, is impervium-solid, a sea of glass mingled with fire.

Really, what Bible verse, what word are you interpreting, and what is the context.


———-

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What does this have to do with “Ceres”

You have one year to prove this is something other than a comet.

Newly found Comet Leonard might become 2021’s brightest

earthsky.org...

Exciting news! A newly found comet might become 2021’s brightest comet. Astronomer Greg Leonard discovered the comet that now bears his name – C/2021 A1 (Leonard) – on January 3, 2021 at the Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona. Astronomers report that discovery images show a tail for the comet, suggesting we might see a nice tail as Comet Leonard draws closer to the Earth and sun. The comet is still far away, currently between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars, heading inward. It’ll reach perihelion, its closest approach to the sun, around January 3, 2022. And so we’ll have a whole year to watch this comet get brighter, and brighter

————
originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

The North Star changes because of the Earth's precession, so tell us Astronomers, not because it itself moves.

Rayleigh should also scatter reflected light in the Earth's atmosphere, and we shouldn't be seeing what NASA shows us, but rather a Neptune like, opaque blue ball.

Or still doesn’t change the fact the Doppler or Red light shift does occur.

Redshift and blueshift describe how light shifts toward shorter or longer wavelengths as objects in space (such as stars or galaxies) move closer or farther away from us. The concept is key to charting the universe's expansion.

www.space.com...

Vs

Rayleigh scattering (/ˈreɪli/ RAY-lee), named after the nineteenth-century British physicist Lord Rayleigh (John William Strutt),[1] is the predominantly elastic scattering of light or other electromagnetic radiation by particles much smaller than the wavelength of the radiation. For light frequencies well below the resonance frequency of the scattering particle (normal dispersion regime), the amount of scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength.

Funny. The sky looks blue, but direct observation of the sun is yellowish....


———-

Why is the direct light from the moon white?

————-
What are you babbling about?

Exactly where do comets come from. How do the travel about the solar system? Where do meteorites come from? How do they make it to earth.

Where does the background radiation of space come from?
———-

I have viewed the Andromeda Galaxy with my own telescope. If it was not a galaxy, what is it?

————-

What does that have to do with me looking up at the night sky, and pondering what I can see with the unaided eye, by binoculars, or telescope? Comets, planets, moons, binary stars, star clusters, nebula. Super novas that appear from time to time. Stars do move. Amateur and professional radio astronomy detect pulsars, radiation from stars, and the background radiation of the universe.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

All of what you believe you're seeing are mere phantasms living in a thin raqia a few hundreds of km. upwards.

Good thing I mentioned meteorites that actually fall to earth.

Comets which related to space dust, and recorded cases of the earth passing through comet tails.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You

There is no outer space.

Then what do you call the area outside earth’s atmosphere too thin to support life? Such as there is not enough pressure to keep one’s blood from essentially boiling?

a reply to: neutronflux

Above the raqia, the ocean.

Meteorites? Did any fall on your head for you to tell us with full confidence that rocks from outer space pour on us? Even if they fell, what if it were from the raqia's windows instead?

Your floodpost is annoying, are you trying perhaps to render this tread unreadable and to cover mine?

P.S.: stop watching porn, your spilling your brains out from your urethra.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

Above the raqia, the ocean.

Meteorites? Did any fall on your head for you to tell us with full confidence that rocks from outer space pour on us? Even if they fell, what if it were from the raqia's windows instead?

Your floodpost is annoying, are you trying perhaps to render this tread unreadable and to cover mine?

P.S.: stop watching porn, your spilling your brains out from your urethra.

Sad you dismiss other person’s experiences in this thread as lies. Especially when you have no reasonable counter explanation.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

All of what you believe you're seeing are mere phantasms living in a thin raqia a few hundreds of km. upwards.

Good thing I mentioned meteorites that actually fall to earth.

Comets which related to space dust, and recorded cases of the earth passing through comet tails.

And we see the influence of the sun and planets’ on comets. In the form of gravity.

Recorded events of comets being destroyed by the sun, or striking planets.

And good thing I mentioned the background radiation of space. And point sources of radiation like stars and pulsars.


You

Your metaphysical outlook is wrong,

Quote where I mentioned anything metaphysical to be wrong about?

You

Evil rulers, thrones, etc. are not interested in allowing the masses their believing truths.

Mean like you stealing glory from God by limiting the universe to your fishbowl existence? And boxing God in by your limited imagination? And telling God what God can, and Cannot create?


—————-

Bottom line. You lie about what other people experience and witness to push a lie.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

Again...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What does this have to do with “Ceres”

You have one year to prove this is something other than a comet.

Newly found Comet Leonard might become 2021’s brightest

earthsky.org...

Exciting news! A newly found comet might become 2021’s brightest comet. Astronomer Greg Leonard discovered the comet that now bears his name – C/2021 A1 (Leonard) – on January 3, 2021 at the Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona. Astronomers report that discovery images show a tail for the comet, suggesting we might see a nice tail as Comet Leonard draws closer to the Earth and sun. The comet is still far away, currently between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars, heading inward. It’ll reach perihelion, its closest approach to the sun, around January 3, 2022. And so we’ll have a whole year to watch this comet get brighter, and brighter