There is no outer space.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

Remember. Your the one that puts limits on god.

While I look up on all of God’s creation, ponder what God has created, and marvel at a being where all things are possible. A infinite universe to compliment a creator of infinite imagination.

Which is the lie?

a reply to: neutronflux

They had radios in the XIXth century and transcontinental broadcasting by the early XXth. Thank goodness for the ionosphere.

MacroVision-2000 absurd? "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." (Luke 18.27)

P.S.: libgen.rs...

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

They had radios in the XIXth century and transcontinental broadcasting by the early XXth. Thank goodness for the ionosphere.

MacroVision-2000 absurd? "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." (Luke 18.27)

P.S.: libgen.rs...

That’s not the argument...

This is the whole argument

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You

You're merely TV-gazing a skydome

With my own eyes? How does that work with radio astronomy?

As I witness meteorites falling to earth. And comets flying about the solar system. As I use satellites hundred miles above earth, and the broadcasting?

But there are other means to track man made objects in space....

How to cast a wider net for tracking space junk
There are only so many hours of the day you can use to track orbital debris. Some scientists think they’ve found more hours.

www.technologyreview.com...

Man has been in orbit around the earth. And in humans true fashion we have left our junk behind to prove it

You

The TV in question is very high resolution:


Impossibly big. Impossible to power with the current power grid. With no record of material and expenditures to make such a TV. With meteorites, comets, stars, super nova and other heavenly phenomena recorded long before such technology was available. With large physical evidence like meteorite impact sites in earth.

And what space is outer of this BS tv you claim exists? What would that be calked.

what you believe are far away objects are but very small images displayed on a futuristic monitor, yes monitor, for you're being closely watched.

Too bad there is physical evidence of items from outer space, and objects in outer space emitting radiation. Like pulsar stars.

You

P.S.: Do you get the esoteric meaning of the above song? Who is the singer? Read the lyrics.

Has nothing to do with songs.

Everything with how you can not debate intelligently about items on your list...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What’s the items you have not answered to? Just from me?

You

The Bible tells that the sky is a "raqia", akin to a mirror, is impervium-solid, a sea of glass mingled with fire.

Really, what Bible verse, what word are you interpreting, and what is the context.


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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What does this have to do with “Ceres”

You have one year to prove this is something other than a comet.

Newly found Comet Leonard might become 2021’s brightest

earthsky.org...

Exciting news! A newly found comet might become 2021’s brightest comet. Astronomer Greg Leonard discovered the comet that now bears his name – C/2021 A1 (Leonard) – on January 3, 2021 at the Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona. Astronomers report that discovery images show a tail for the comet, suggesting we might see a nice tail as Comet Leonard draws closer to the Earth and sun. The comet is still far away, currently between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars, heading inward. It’ll reach perihelion, its closest approach to the sun, around January 3, 2022. And so we’ll have a whole year to watch this comet get brighter, and brighter

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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

The North Star changes because of the Earth's precession, so tell us Astronomers, not because it itself moves.

Rayleigh should also scatter reflected light in the Earth's atmosphere, and we shouldn't be seeing what NASA shows us, but rather a Neptune like, opaque blue ball.

Or still doesn’t change the fact the Doppler or Red light shift does occur.

Redshift and blueshift describe how light shifts toward shorter or longer wavelengths as objects in space (such as stars or galaxies) move closer or farther away from us. The concept is key to charting the universe's expansion.

www.space.com...

Vs

Rayleigh scattering (/ˈreɪli/ RAY-lee), named after the nineteenth-century British physicist Lord Rayleigh (John William Strutt),[1] is the predominantly elastic scattering of light or other electromagnetic radiation by particles much smaller than the wavelength of the radiation. For light frequencies well below the resonance frequency of the scattering particle (normal dispersion regime), the amount of scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength.

Funny. The sky looks blue, but direct observation of the sun is yellowish....


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Why is the direct light from the moon white?

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What are you babbling about?

Exactly where do comets come from. How do the travel about the solar system? Where do meteorites come from? How do they make it to earth.

Where does the background radiation of space come from?
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I have viewed the Andromeda Galaxy with my own telescope. If it was not a galaxy, what is it?

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What does that have to do with me looking up at the night sky, and pondering what I can see with the unaided eye, by binoculars, or telescope? Comets, planets, moons, binary stars, star clusters, nebula. Super novas that appear from time to time. Stars do move. Amateur and professional radio astronomy detect pulsars, radiation from stars, and the background radiation of the universe.

Concerning Ceres, I corrected the post before your quoting it. Mars is not beyond the asteroid belt, I forgot what I had read as a child in that beloved encyclopaedia I received as an anniversary gift.

Please one question at a time.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
Concerning Ceres, I corrected the post before your quoting it. Mars is not beyond the asteroid belt, I forgot what I had read as a child in that beloved encyclopaedia I received as an anniversary gift.

Please one question at a time.

So where the hell is this TV screen you mentioned?

Anyway. Comets travel from beyond Pluto, around the sun then back out past Pluto.

In 1950, the Dutch astronomer J. H. Oort proposed that all comets come from an enormous spherical cloud of objects extending almost halfway to the nearest stars and only weakly bound by the Sun’s gravity. This cloud, now called the Oort cloud, is occasionally perturbed gravitationally as it moves through the Galaxy. Such disturbances hurl comets from the cloud into the inner solar system, where we can see them.

www.amnh.org...

How does Halley’s Comet pass through your BS Ceres and BS TV

Halley's orbital period has varied between 74–79 years since 240 BC.[32][11] Its orbit around the Sun is highly elliptical, with an orbital eccentricity of 0.967 (with 0 being a circle and 1 being a parabolic trajectory). The perihelion, the point in the comet's orbit when it is nearest the Sun, is just 0.6 AU.[37] This is between the orbits of Mercury and Venus. Its aphelion, or farthest distance from the Sun, is 35 AU (roughly the distance of Pluto).

en.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

You

Please one question at a time.

Why? I must gear the debate to your BS one liners? Or you cannot handle the listing that your full of crap, and you can only lie about what others have witnessed with their our eyes.


Remember. Your the one that puts limits on god.

While I look up on all of God’s creation, ponder what God has created, and marvel at a being where all things are possible. A infinite universe to compliment a creator of infinite imagination.

Which is the lie?

a reply to: neutronflux

The comets etc. are images. They're not really there. Beyond SkyTV there are waters.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

The comets etc. are images. They're not really there. Beyond SkyTV there are waters.

Must lie to push your BS among people that post here who have seen comets.

Your missing the point.


Again...

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
Concerning Ceres, I corrected the post before your quoting it. Mars is not beyond the asteroid belt, I forgot what I had read as a child in that beloved encyclopaedia I received as an anniversary gift.

Please one question at a time.

So where the hell is this TV screen you mentioned?

Anyway. Comets travel from beyond Pluto, around the sun then back out past Pluto.

In 1950, the Dutch astronomer J. H. Oort proposed that all comets come from an enormous spherical cloud of objects extending almost halfway to the nearest stars and only weakly bound by the Sun’s gravity. This cloud, now called the Oort cloud, is occasionally perturbed gravitationally as it moves through the Galaxy. Such disturbances hurl comets from the cloud into the inner solar system, where we can see them.

www.amnh.org...

How does Halley’s Comet pass through your BS Ceres and BS TV

Halley's orbital period has varied between 74–79 years since 240 BC.[32][11] Its orbit around the Sun is highly elliptical, with an orbital eccentricity of 0.967 (with 0 being a circle and 1 being a parabolic trajectory). The perihelion, the point in the comet's orbit when it is nearest the Sun, is just 0.6 AU.[37] This is between the orbits of Mercury and Venus. Its aphelion, or farthest distance from the Sun, is 35 AU (roughly the distance of Pluto).

en.m.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

The comets etc. are images. They're not really there. Beyond SkyTV there are waters.

If your TV is out beyond Mars and the Ceres? Then what is going on when comets come from beyond your BS Ceres and witnessed passing close to the sun in an orbit within the inner planets.

a reply to: neutronflux

I never said such a thing! I was confused by your red shift/distance discussion, so I tried to retort that while Ceres' color is grosso modo of a higher freq., being in the gray tones, than that of the yellowish Jupiter, still the former is, according to the common worldview closer than the latter.

Red shift means that waves emitted from far away come less frequently to the observer than they were sent at the source.

Your referencing the low quality officine of the Ministry of Truth show that 1) you're a millennial and 2) are but superficially acquainted with the Bible.

Render yourself the service of closing that pr0nhub tab in your browser, the one to the left, thank you.

originally posted by: Sheshbazzar
a reply to: neutronflux

I never said such a thing! I was confused by your red shift/distance discussion, so I tried to retort that while Ceres' color is grosso modo of a higher freq., being in the gray tones, than that of the yellowish Jupiter, still the former is, according to the common worldview closer than the latter.

Red shift means that waves emitted from far away come less frequently to the observer than they were sent at the source.

Your referencing the low quality officine of the Ministry of Truth show that 1) you're a millennial and 2) are but superficially acquainted with the Bible.

Render yourself the service of closing that pr0nhub tab in your browser, the one to the left, thank you.

What are you babbling about.

People on this site / thread have seen comets / witnessed comets with there own eyes.

Objects in “outer space”

Comets that travel from beyond Pluto. Travel past Neptune, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Venus, Mercury, pivot about the sun, then pass all the planets on their way back out beyond Pluto.

Haley’s comet does this about every 76 years

I think this calls BS on your “Ceres”

Edmund Halley?
Edmund Halley, 1720-21, after 1717's discovery of the "proper motion" of some of the *fix'd* stars: royalsocietypublishing.org...

There is no outer space.

P.S.: We will shortly come to that "proper motion" paper: sci-hub.do...
P.P.S: How is it that the outer space's vacuum hasn't, buy suction, disintegrated Earth, Sun, Moon, the planets, the fixed stars etc.?

I thought Mother Nature abhorred emptiness.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

proof its being sucked?

Outer space is Science Fiction:

www.wired.com...

But what about this embarrassing belt?: sci-hub.do...
How are the geostationary satellites, distant 36000km from Earth, well beyond i.e., thrice the outer reaches of Van Allen, to get past unharmed and then emit signals noiselessly enough through that strong electromagnetic donut wall? The Van Allen publication reports that: "Sydney Chapman and Gordon Little at the University of Alaska sug­gested that such a process might well account for the attenuation of radio sig­nals in the lower ionosphere of the auro­ral zones".

And the Van Allen paper is hardly more credible: "Along the way we launched a series of rocket-carrying balloons-"rockoons." (The bal­loon lifts a small rocket to an altitude of 12 to 15 miles, whence the rocket car­ries a modest payload of instruments to a height of 60 to 70 miles.)".

Balloons serving as launching pad carriers...

They knew that there is no outer space, so they had to come clean, somehow.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

What is the aurora borealis?

to get past unharmed and then emit signals noiselessly enough through that strong electromagnetic donut wall?

The van Allen belt? Protecting the earth from charged particles which is different than electromagnetic waves used to communicate. And the electromagnetic interference would have to be at frequencies that will interfere with the band’s satellites transmit on.

Vs the electromagnetic soup down on earth? Where AM, FM, CB radios, microwaves, WiFi, UHF, broadcast TV co-exist because they all broadcast at different frequencies.


Then where does my satellite GPS signal come from, and satellite Internet, satellite radio, satellite TV, sat phone too?

Or. How does weather satellite work?

a reply to: neutronflux

Moving, charged particles radiate electromagnetism... Being extraordinarily strong in the VH Belt, it should scatter the em. signals to and from distant geostat. satellites.

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

The charged particles trapped in the Van Allen belts don’t have a major effect on radio waves passing through so they’re pretty much ignored when calculating signal to noise ratio. The signal to noise ratio is so low its very difficult to measure. To do this what you would do is check the delay between two different frequencies but again very difficult to tell.Radiation dose not effect radio waves enough to really even be considered in a design.

The van allen belt main problem is trapped protons which can effect electronics this is why sattelites have to be shielded to protect the electronics on boards. This is why when they design a satellite you will see them use gold foil for example around electronic parts. Its not actually made of gold however it is made of polyimide or polyester films coated with very thin layers of aluminum.

www.nesdis.noaa.gov...

a reply to: Sheshbazzar

And yet there they all are, working just fine. So, either you're completely wrong and don't understand how these things work or they just got lucky.

a reply to: dragonridr

"The signal to noise ratio is so low its very difficult to measure." which is the same as saying that signal is very small compared to noise...

"Radiation" does affect em. waves, again see the Van Allen paper's: "Sydney Chapman and Gordon Little at the University of Alaska sug­gested that such a process might well account for the attenuation of radio sig­nals in the lower ionosphere of the auro­ral zones".

"The van allen belt main problem is trapped protons which can effect electronics this is why sattelites have to be shielded to protect the electronics on boards." Hence no working geostat. satellite or 1969's Moon landing.

NASA: www.youtube.com...
"We must solve this challenge before we send people to this region of space."

www.youtube.com...