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The piece, which Facebook marked as missing context and potentially misleading, was based on data shared with the public via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, where providers and patients can report reactions. The VAERS site specifically warns against using the data to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to a reaction: “The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable.”
Five Alaskans between the ages of 73 and 100 did die after they got at least one dose of vaccine.
All five had numerous pre-existing health conditions. Three deaths were specifically not linked to vaccinations, according to provider notes. Data for two other cases did not specify. None of the five cases included any information linking the death to the vaccine.
None of those deaths were caused by vaccine itself, according to Pollyanna Stewart, who coordinates the VAERS program for the state of Alaska.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
5 Alaskans Died From Vaccine?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
5 Alaskans Died From Vaccine?
This is a wonderful view behind the curtain of just what a duplicitous bunch of idiots are running our nation's health departments and how manipulative these assholes are.
Note this:
The piece, which Facebook marked as missing context and potentially misleading, was based on data shared with the public via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, where providers and patients can report reactions. The VAERS site specifically warns against using the data to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to a reaction: “The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable.”
Five Alaskans between the ages of 73 and 100 did die after they got at least one dose of vaccine.
All five had numerous pre-existing health conditions. Three deaths were specifically not linked to vaccinations, according to provider notes. Data for two other cases did not specify. None of the five cases included any information linking the death to the vaccine.
None of those deaths were caused by vaccine itself, according to Pollyanna Stewart, who coordinates the VAERS program for the state of Alaska.
Hol' Up! Haven't we spent the past year with government health officials telling us pre-existing conditions don't matter... any death with COVID is a death from COVID? But here now, as they attempt to shake their money maker experimental vaccine (that isn't even an actual vaccine), suddenly pre-existing conditions and age matter greatly?
Anyone who trusts these people has my deepest sympathies.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
At a recent doctor visit, I was advised to get the vaccine, which will be available in my area soon. When I refused, the doctor said "There have been numerous, numerous tests, and it's safe, They wouldn't approve it if it wasn't safe."
I told him: "The FDA approved Vioxx. Vioxx gave tens of thousands of people heart disease."
His reply: "You're talking about two completely different things. Vioxx isn't a vaccine."
I told him that the point I was trying to make was that the govt deeming something "safe" doesn't mean feck-all to me.
I was then given a lecture like I was 6 years old, and I was branded a conspiracy theaorist.
Age: 80
Current Illness: Aspiration pneumonia (dx on 12/16/2020)
Preexisting Conditions: Congestive heart failure, chronic respiratory failure, dementia, chronic mylomonocytic leukemia, chronic COPD, coronary artery disease, dysphagia.
Age: 77
Current Illness: Scrotal edema, aspiration pneumonia
Preexisting Conditions: Ischemic cardiomyopathy, congestive heart failure, hypertensive heart disease, type 2 diabetes with diabetic neuropathy, spinal stenosis with neurogenic claudication, chronic kidney disease, atrial fibrillation, COPD, venous insufficiency.
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Actually that article from the Alaska Watchman is probably misleading for people who don't actually read it.
Titles are pretty much always sensationalized and misleading. In this case - At least five Alaskans died and 111 suffered adverse reactions after COVID vaccines. That title is misleading and intentionally so.
I don't disagree that they are trying to have it both ways, but I suspect the vaccines in reality are less dangerous than eating peanuts for the first time.
Anyhow, here's the preexisting conditions for the first two listed from the VAERS reports. LINK
Age: 80
Current Illness: Aspiration pneumonia (dx on 12/16/2020)
Preexisting Conditions: Congestive heart failure, chronic respiratory failure, dementia, chronic mylomonocytic leukemia, chronic COPD, coronary artery disease, dysphagia.
Age: 77
Current Illness: Scrotal edema, aspiration pneumonia
Preexisting Conditions: Ischemic cardiomyopathy, congestive heart failure, hypertensive heart disease, type 2 diabetes with diabetic neuropathy, spinal stenosis with neurogenic claudication, chronic kidney disease, atrial fibrillation, COPD, venous insufficiency.
I get your point though and agree with it. The numbers can't be trusted.
As far as the vaccines go, it's a personal choice and no way do I ever take advice from anti-vaxxers. I've worked with a couple and they both had phobias and both nearly died from stupid decisions based on those phobias. Both are alive today because they were saved by the drugs and doctors they were so afraid of.
Like it or not, Covid is a killer. The numbers may be untrustworthy, but that does not change the fact that you can die from it. Even if you believe the sensationalized reporting against it, the vaccine is safe for most people. Fewer people will die as a result of the vaccines than would otherwise.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
At a recent doctor visit, I was advised to get the vaccine, which will be available in my area soon. When I refused, the doctor said "There have been numerous, numerous tests, and it's safe, They wouldn't approve it if it wasn't safe."
I told him: "The FDA approved Vioxx. Vioxx gave tens of thousands of people heart disease."
His reply: "You're talking about two completely different things. Vioxx isn't a vaccine."
I told him that the point I was trying to make was that the govt deeming something "safe" doesn't mean feck-all to me.
I was then given a lecture like I was 6 years old, and I was branded a conspiracy theorist.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Ghandi
originally posted by: ColeYounger
I was then given a lecture like I was 6 years old, and I was branded a conspiracy theorist.