Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

The routers won't have any of those things.

Correct. But what might it contain? Cached routing tables that show, lets say for argument sake, the route to NCIC for authorities, which may be considered confidential.

Or to what doctor a particular individual goes to (stalking anyone?), also encroaching upon their right to privacy if the medical doctor genre can be ascertained, or a health offcial responding to a citizen inquiry...dont forget the remote IP is also kept in logs.

There are reasons why a POST/GET may divulge any suite of information not intended for public consumption.

One thing I AM for though, is in someone with clearance and the aptitude to actually view the logs for only the relevant connections, being performed. It's pretty black and white, either a machine connected to that router or not. I mean, it isn't rocket science. This needs to be put to bed so sycophants can move on to the next theory.

Report: Wisconsin lost track of 82,000 ballots in a state Biden won by 20,000

Wisconsin lost track of more than 82,000 mail-in ballots cast in the state in the November 2020 elections—more than four times the margin of difference separating the two presidential candidates in the state, according to a report by the nonprofit Public Interest Legal Foundation.

The legal foundation, an election integrity watchdog group, released a research brief Friday looking at one of the most closely contested states in the 2020 presidential election.

Unaccounted-for votes do not prove the outcome would have turned out differently, as it’s not knowable how many of the uncounted votes were for Biden and how many were for Trump. But according to the legal group, this marks the first time, going back to at least 2012, that the number of unaccounted-for ballots was larger than the margin of victory.

One thing I AM for though, is in someone with clearance and the aptitude to actually view the logs for only the relevant connections, being performed.

Well thank goodness for small wonders... I'm not sure why the change of heart, since you could have been making this case all along, rather than trying to say that the Senate does not have the necessary and proper authority to do so.

It's pretty black and white, either a machine connected to that router or not. I mean, it isn't rocket science.

So what would this look like? What would proper "clearance" consist of? A basic criminal background check? Credit/financial check (risk of bribery/blackmail)? And what is the proper "aptitude"? Is it difficult to read router logs? Is there special knowledge or expertise required? What would that look like?

I haven't seen anything about what (if anything) security credentials the Cyber Ninjas have, or what kind of background checks or clearances were performed before they were hired. Do you know anything regarding the Cyber Ninjas specifically?

I've asked this several times before and never gotten an answer, so I'll ask you: Is there some way to compartmentalize the election traffic from the rest? For that matter, if all County connections are contained on the same routers, how would anyone be able to distinguish election-related connections from any other connections? What would set those apart from other County business being conducted? There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of connections per day across the County. How are election-related connections separated and isolated?

These are serious questions. I honestly don't know and want to know.

This needs to be put to bed so sycophants can move on to the next theory.

Just had to throw in the insults, eh? Sadly, I'm not at all surprised. You can't muster any concern -- much less outrage -- for the already known bad behavior on the part of the law-breaking County officials and other officials, but by golly gee you'll talk trash about the people who just want some honest answers and accountability.

a reply to: imitator

Thanks for posting the link!

Just one note here though: These ballots were not necessarily "cast" as the article states, simply mailed out, and their fate is unknown. No doubt many were never filled out or submitted, and probably ended up in the trash.

Those ballots aren't the problem though. The problem is how many of the ballots were received by the wrong people, filled out and submitted illegally, and that we might never know.

Patrick Byrne Interview

The interview is on video. Here are the highlights I got from it (with my thoughts in parentheses -- like this!):

* Says he really doesn't know much, but...

* Thinks the Senate report will be released after Labor Day.

* Fann is keeping things close to vest, has several simultaneously investigations (for want of a better word), the Cyber Ninja audit is just one. (The investigation in Pima County may be one of those) Has never met Fann but says she's a smart lady and patriot.

* There is increasing political interference from GOP. Some want credit now that it looks damaging to Dems, some want to influence the report, specifically they do not want anything included in report that was not part of the original stated intentions... so anything found beyond that they do not want included in report, no matter how bad. (ETA: Byrne specifically mentioned "judgships" given in exchange for squashing report and/or damaging info... is he referring to AG Brnovich???)

* State and federal agencies are trying to insert themselves into process but Fann is rejecting government involvement to maintain total independent analysis.

* Wendy Rogers has been briefed on some of the results, which she has been sharing at rallies for audits/election integrity in other states. (I think she's concerned that the report will not be released to public, and she wants to be sure at least some of the findings are known to the public)

* There isn't one method of cheating found, but many ways found. The adjudicated ballots are a problem, but not in the way we think. Says biggest to thing to look for is the percentage of fake ballots. Thinks it may be as much as 10 to 15% of total vote.

a reply to: Boadicea
Thanks!

originally posted by: Boadicea

One thing I AM for though, is in someone with clearance and the aptitude to actually view the logs for only the relevant connections, being performed.

Well thank goodness for small wonders... I'm not sure why the change of heart, since you could have been making this case all along, rather than trying to say that the Senate does not have the necessary and proper authority to do so.

It's not a change of heart. I've said this all along. The senate, which i am postulating, does not have the authority to infringe upon individual rights is my contention, no matter what authority they perceive to have. Constitutional protections trumps anything they could vote upon.

originally posted by: Boadicea
So what would this look like? What would proper "clearance" consist of? A basic criminal background check? Credit/financial check (risk of bribery/blackmail)? And what is the proper "aptitude"? Is it difficult to read router logs? Is there special knowledge or expertise required? What would that look like?

As far as clearance, nothing less than TS clearance.

It's not really difficult to "read" router logs, what is difficult is in understanding the nuances of what that data may be showing. The aptitude comes into play with experience, knowing what might be important versus knowing what likely is inert (for instance a broadcast message, versus an actual point to point connection...for a novice it might be easy to misconstrue).

originally posted by: Boadicea
I haven't seen anything about what (if anything) security credentials the Cyber Ninjas have, or what kind of background checks or clearances were performed before they were hired. Do you know anything regarding the Cyber Ninjas specifically?

I know enough to know none of their team is TS cleared. MY opinion is anyone working on and rendering a judgement upon something as sacred as our election data (Arizona or otherwise) should have no less clearance than someone who sends an email to another senator.

originally posted by: Boadicea
I've asked this several times before and never gotten an answer, so I'll ask you: Is there some way to compartmentalize the election traffic from the rest? For that matter, if all County connections are contained on the same routers, how would anyone be able to distinguish election-related connections from any other connections? What would set those apart from other County business being conducted? There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of connections per day across the County. How are election-related connections separated and isolated?

These are serious questions. I honestly don't know and want to know.

It honestly doesn't need to be compartmentalized, as i;ve said before just knowing a point to point connection was established from a MAC address / IP Address that shouldnt be there is enough to know that something was afoot. Election traffic wont be stored on a router, only connection data.

originally posted by: Boadicea
Just had to throw in the insults, eh? Sadly, I'm not at all surprised. You can't muster any concern -- much less outrage -- for the already known bad behavior on the part of the law-breaking County officials and other officials, but by golly gee you'll talk trash about the people who just want some honest answers and accountability.

LOL its only an insult if you're a sycophant. If not, i imagine it doesn't apply to you or anyone else who is not. But anyone who IS a sycophant, should absolutely feel insulted and i absolutely will not apologize for stating my belief to that end. You believe that a sycophant is tantamount to a mere citizen wanting honest answers? Definitions in order....

a reply to: Boadicea
Whenever I think of Patrick Byrne, I first recall how torn up he was over corrupt people being so close to President Trump. He sat in meetings, listening in horror as Trump's top advisors (successfully) talked him out of using existing evidence, to officially refute the election results. (Would trigger a constitutional crisis, lawsuits, tarnish the family, etc..)

a reply to: alphabetaone

So... sorry... all that comes down to just weasel words.

Top secret clearance? LOL!!! These aren't nuclear codes. These are ballots with no identifying information, just marks for candidates. That should actually be public record -- not top secret. Any one of us should be able to look at those ballots at will.

And quite frankly, government is the problem... not the solution. We don't trust them. No matter what clearance they have. Just look how well that worked out for the people in Afghanistan who trusted our government.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea
Whenever I think of Patrick Byrne, I first recall how torn up he was over corrupt people being so close to President Trump. He sat in meetings, listening in horror as Trump's top advisors (successfully) talked him out of using existing evidence, to officially refute the election results. (Would trigger a constitutional crisis, lawsuits, tarnish the family, etc..)

I remember that as well. He did seem truly horrified. I also remember that he broke his silence a few years ago as a government informant of sorts when they tried to railroad the Russian woman he was involved with (at the behest of those same government officials). He seems to have seen a very dark side to the Feds that he's not willing to let slide or remain hidden. He also looks ten years older than he did six months ago, a sign of his deep concern, and probably that he's been burning the candle at both ends to make sure this isn't swept under the rug as well.

And maybe it's just me, but he seemed concerned that somehow the report would never see the light of day. And equally concerned that with so much going on now, that other states considering audits will put them on hold. I hope and pray that doesn't happen.

We need sunshine!!!

Small development.

Brannon Howse and Mike Lindell have been putting out 1 hour news report videos the last several of days.

I was watching the most recent one from a day or two ago. It featured two major news stories, Garland Favorito's new lawsuit that seeks an injunction on using Dominion machines in Georgia because they violate Georgia law, and a cyber security specialist that was supposed to go over what was found in the Mesa county election management images.

I got halfway through the video, enough to hear the first story, then I went back to work and was going to listen to the rest later, but then I discovered that.........

ALL OF MIKE LINDELL'S VIDEOS FROM THE CYBER SYMPOSIUM FORWARD, HAVE GONE MISSING FROM THE FRANKSPEECH WEBSITE!

Lindell TV still has most of the videos up, but the video about the Mesa county image findings is missing.

I sure would like to know what was found in those Mesa county election management images.

Update: the videos are back up.

43,000 Absentee Ballot Votes Counted in DeKalb County 2020 Election Violated Chain of Custody Rule

News that in DeKalb County – just one of the state’s 159 counties – the number of absentee ballots deposited in drop boxes in the November 2020 election that were in violation of the state’s emergency rule for chain of custody documentation exceeds by more than three times Biden’s certified margin of statewide victory (43,907 votes compared to 11,779 votes) calls into question the legitimacy of that November 20, 2020 statewide certification by Secretary of State Raffensperger.

Similar to DeKalb, issues surrounding the chain of custody of absentee ballots deposited into drop boxes in Cobb County and Fulton County have been reported by The Star News.

After Fulton County did not provide the chain of custody documents for 18,901 absentee ballots deposited into drop boxes, an election official there admitted that the records were missing. Additionally, 85 percent of the drop box absentee ballots were not “immediately transported” and 5 percent were recorded as being delivered before they were picked up from the drop boxes.

A review of Cobb County’s chain of custody documents revealed that 6 collections totaling more than 1,800 ballots were transferred one day later, one collection of 227 ballots was transferred 2 days later and one collection of 274 ballots was transferred 3 days later, in addition to a number of other irregularities.

We have such safeguards for a reason: To prevent cheating.

When the safeguards are not properly performed, the outcome cannot be honestly or honorably certified.

When the total number of tainted ballots exceeds the margin error by 300%, the outcome cannot be trusted.

This is a BIG PROBLEM.

a reply to: IndieA

Thank you for posting the info.

...a cyber security specialist that was supposed to go over what was found in the Mesa county election management images.

In the Skagit County Washington live hearing last night, one of the guys from Lindell's symposium spoke, and related that there was a "poison pill" in some of the information they had intended to present, until they learned they could be arrested if the publicly released it -- and that there were already warrants sworn for their arrest. They found it just in time, and that's when they went with the Mesa County news instead.

Maybe something similar happened here... Some kind of legal threat or action maybe?

a reply to: Boadicea

I don't know what happened, but its back up.

The Cyber security guy's name was Doug. He didn't have a whole lot of information but he did say that the "trusted build" was actually an installed image.

Image installs basically rewrite the hard drive, or in other words, erases all of the old data while replacing it with a 100% new image, so obviously a lot of data went missing including log files.

He also mentioned that SQL Server was installed on both images and that it basically creates a backdoor that could be used outside of dominion in a way that was untraceable. Yikes

Patrick Byrne's interview was exceptionally revealing. He seems to loosely agree with Senator Wendy Rodgers that we are looking at about 10% to 15% of the reported votes being invalid or outright fake. He also said that the methods of the fraud were making more and more sense, and that a lot of the fraud had to do with voter registration rolls and stolen votes. He also mentions that there are Republicans in Arizona that now what to soften the final report by eliminating everything that was found that wasn't initially looked for, which is said to be a lot.

Mean while, I think that I heard that Jovan Pulitzer's paper analysis report is close to 200 pages long and Earth shattering.

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Boadicea

I don't know what happened, but its back up.

The Cyber security guy's name was Doug. He didn't have a whole lot of information but he did say that the "trusted build" was actually an installed image.

Image installs basically rewrite the hard drive, or in other words, erases all of the old data while replacing it with a 100% new image, so obviously a lot of data went missing including log files.

Wow. Just... wow. Someone(s) need to be in jail. That's brazen. They never expected the County Recorder to have the foresight (or the knowledge? resources?) to copy it before they got to it.

He also mentioned that SQL Server was installed on both images and that it basically creates a backdoor that could be used outside of dominion in a way that was untraceable. Yikes.

I have heard that before. I believe from Matt Deperno in Michigan -- but I might be misremembering. That's a deal breaker. This crap shouldn't be anywhere near our machines.

Patrick Byrne's interview was exceptionally revealing. He seems to loosely agree with Senator Wendy Rodgers that we are looking at about 10% to 15% of the reported votes being invalid or outright fake. He also said that the methods of the fraud were making more and more sense, and that a lot of the fraud had to do with voter registration rolls and stolen votes. He also mentions that there are Republicans in Arizona that now what to soften the final report by eliminating everything that was found that wasn't initially looked for, which is said to be a lot.

Yes! The voter registration rolls -- I forgot to mention that. Those keep coming up. The outside hack found was to the voter registration database. It was the voter registration database that was deleted by the County -- or at least deleted before the auditor's received it and recovered it; we don't know who actually deleted it. There were 18,000 voter registrations deleted from the database the day after the election.

Mean while, I think that I heard that Jovan Pulitzer's paper analysis report is close to 200 pages long and Earth shattering.

Yup! I watched an interview with him a couple weeks ago -- right before the Senate was given the preliminary report from the auditors -- and that's what he was saying. He mentioned that the different members of the audit team were writing their own reports, so his is just one of several.

He also announced this a couple weeks ago:

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Jovan Pulitzer Announces He Has Obtained Full Funding for Kinematic Forensic Audit of Entire State of Michigan

The legislatures still need to vote for the audit, but maybe having the funding guaranteed will help that process along. As much as I think taxpayers should pay for the audits, and thereby no question who "owns" the audit, if this is what it takes to make it happen, this is what it takes.

a reply to: Boadicea

No wonder then, you were insulted.

a reply to: Boadicea

Private funding for Jovan.

Oh, swell.

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: Boadicea

No wonder then, you were insulted.

Don't presume too much. I don't think enough of you to be insulted by anything you say.

An insult is an insult, and does not need to be taken personally to recognize it for what it is.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Boadicea

Private funding for Jovan.

Oh, swell.

Yes, as noted, I don't like it either.

Having said that, someone won't like it whether it's privately funded or publicly funded. So there's that.

If we learn anything from this, hopefully it will be that we need to clean up our elections, establish effective and efficient safeguards, including maximum transparency, so that we don't need any audits at all.

Yup yup yup!

It's not surprising no one has been fired for the debacle in Afghanistan.

These people stole an election. They're not accountable to the public. They're not accountable to anyone.

We won't get accountability for Afghanistan until we get accountability for Nov. 3

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