Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: shooterbrody

I'd love to hear your thoughts too on what I posted above -- here -- if you're so inclined.

A couple others too, but I don't want to bug too many of you all! I hope those inclined to answer will see it and do so.

I don't know.
Until the results are released, only the auditor's know.
I do know the sunshine is good, the transparency which some have fought SO hard, is good.
Reminding the government that they are ACCOUNTABLE is good.

Seriously respecting your position.

I don't get excited in anticipation - either way (blame it on a bi-polar, alcoholic mom).

But, "singing to the choir" can make a thread dull.

Ahh yes as the painful truth nears, comes the exit plans 😎👋

a reply to: Annee

I am with you on this, I want sunshine to expose the corruption and whoever is guilty to be prosecuted...

Whats my expectation republicans will beat this drum into the mid terms and forget about it once that counting is done.

I hope to be wrong, but thats what experience tells me.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Cyber ninjas don't care about sunshine unless they are ordered to care.

The ninjas need to give it up.

What we need is for the audit to start over with a bipartisan company that will show what they are doing at every step.
Otherwise I'm not going to trust any of this. And i'm not alone in thinking this way.

a reply to: Boadicea

So in secret . Not letting voters know what's being done with their ballets unless ordered to ?

What we need is a bunch of dems doing secret audits on those senate races the repubs won.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Boadicea

So in secret . Not letting voters know what's being done with their ballets unless ordered to ?

What we need is a bunch of dems doing secret audits on those senate races the repubs won.

There are video cameras live streaming and recording every corner of the Coliseum, every thing in there, every person in there, and everything every person does.

There are three "representatives" for the Democrat Secretary of State (who has fought this audit tooth and nail) who have free rein to observe everyone and everything they do.

They have given us various explanations and descriptions for everything they are doing, who is doing it, how they are doing it and why they are doing it.

They have written documents and digital records of everything they are examining, everything they are doing, and everyone who is doing it.

When we receive a final report, any claims and/or accusations they make will need to be proportionately and sufficiently established with documents, records, and perhaps witness testimony.

As I asked you before, what more do you want? I'm listening.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Whats my expectation republicans will beat this drum into the mid terms and forget about it once that counting is done.

Not here. I can almost guarantee it, and I'll be happy to revisit this in November 2022 to see what happens.

We have State Republicans pitted against County Republicans in the public arena. In the private arena we have elite Republicans pitted against Tea Party Republicans (for want of better descriptors). This is a battle that's been brewing since Dubya, and is finally coming to a boil.

Only one Republican candidate for Governor has voiced any support for the audit -- Kari Lake. This will be a battlefield in the primaries, no doubt. Regardless of who wins the primary (my vote is for Lake), the Republican won't miss an opportunity to throw election integrity at the Democrat. If the candidates themselves don't bring it up, plenty of people will.

I expect the situation will be similar in other battleground states -- Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Nevada at least!

a reply to: Boadicea

I hope hope you are right, might just be pessimism setting in with everything else going on but I just have little faith in the republicans, and zero faith in the democrats.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Believe me, I understand your pessimism and low expectations.

We've been played for a long long time. We've had critters lie to our faces, working for their best interests and not ours, with their only loyalty to themselves -- not the people, not their party, not the Constitution. They've told us one thing and done the other. It got old a long time ago.

But I have real hope here, not because of the people involved so much as because there is a genuine opportunity for truth to rear it's beautiful head and rule the day. No matter what that truth is. Even if the truth is that the problems with our elections do NOT rise to the level of affecting the outcome, and we only learn that the critters have used it as a political football to manipulate and exploit the trust of the people.

We can fix whatever ails us as long as we know what the real problem is. Give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and we'll figure it out, and the chips will fall where they may.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Annee

I am with you on this, I want sunshine to expose the corruption and whoever is guilty to be prosecuted...

Whats my expectation republicans will beat this drum into the mid terms and forget about it once that counting is done.

I hope to be wrong, but thats what experience tells me.

Republicans can no longer take constituents for granted, like Democrats can theirs.

Action or they're out. Just like the Georgia Senate races. Better to have Satanic Democrat than a traitor lying Replican.

a reply to: carewemust

You are completely blind.

Recently about 90%+++ of your posts have been proven false...yet you ignore in this and continue to double, triple, quadruple down on those lies.


Sadly ATS has become an echo chamber of alt-right and your ignorant view point has become popular here.

Your ignorance blinds you though. You are a fool if you think the majority of the US population ever supported Trump.

The Republican party is dead in the water thanks to Trump. I look forward to watching snowflakes like you melt the next couple of election cycles.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: shooterbrody

I'd love to hear your thoughts too on what I posted above -- here -- if you're so inclined.

A couple others too, but I don't want to bug too many of you all! I hope those inclined to answer will see it and do so.

I don't know.
Until the results are released, only the auditor's know.
I do know the sunshine is good, the transparency which some have fought SO hard, is good.
Reminding the government that they are ACCOUNTABLE is good.

Seriously respecting your position.

I don't get excited in anticipation - either way (blame it on a bi-polar, alcoholic mom).

But, "singing to the choir" can make a thread dull.

Ahh yes as the painful truth nears, comes the exit plans 😎👋

Byeden about to do the honorable thing?

a reply to: jrod


"Recently about 90%+++ of your posts have been proven false...yet you ignore in this and continue to double, triple, quadruple down on those lies"



Can you name one?

a reply to: jrod


"Your ignorance blinds you though. You are a fool if you think the majority of the US population ever supported Trump"


Curious then, what are dems so afraid of?

You'd think they'd be anxious to prove exactly that through AZ audit.

Sure doesn't appear they share your confidence.

Looks a lot more like panic to me.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: carewemust

You are completely blind.

Recently about 90%+++ of your posts have been proven false...yet you ignore in this and continue to double, triple, quadruple down on those lies.


Sadly ATS has become an echo chamber of alt-right and your ignorant view point has become popular here.

Your ignorance blinds you though. You are a fool if you think the majority of the US population ever supported Trump.

The Republican party is dead in the water thanks to Trump. I look forward to watching snowflakes like you melt the next couple of election cycles.

Ha. You're confirming more than you realize. Thank-you!

a reply to: carewemust

Erm, you might want to edit your post as it's not clear what's you and what's the quote.

EDIT: Thanks.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: carewemust

Erm, you might want to edit your post as it's not clear what's you and what's the quote.

EDIT: Thanks.

Done. typing half stewed on a hotel bed is not a friendly eniornment.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: carewemust

You are completely blind.

Recently about 90%+++ of your posts have been proven false...yet you ignore in this and continue to double, triple, quadruple down on those lies.


Sadly ATS has become an echo chamber of alt-right and your ignorant view point has become popular here.

Your ignorance blinds you though. You are a fool if you think the majority of the US population ever supported Trump.

The Republican party is dead in the water thanks to Trump. I look forward to watching snowflakes like you melt the next couple of election cycles.

This is neither necessary nor appropriate, and is not appreciated. At all.

This pitiable attack on another member, with absolutely no substance, nothing pertaining to the topic of the OP, and nothing worth responding to, is one of the most pathetic posts I've ever seen on ATS... and that's saying something. The fact that you have been an ATS member for this long and still somehow thought this was worthy of posting is downright sad.

I don't speak for anyone except myself, but I do have a responsibility to "tend my thread" as the OP, and for the greatest part everyone who has posted in this thread has been on point and respectful to other posters. Which I very much appreciate. If you cannot rise to that level, okay. But if you're just going to post hateful crap against another member, I'm going to take exception and call you out on it. Each and every time.

Let's not go there. Please.

Arizona Audit: 'Voting system data' was sent to a 'lab' in Montana and we don't know why

Thursday, Bennett confirmed to 12 News the data was shipped to Montana.

The data is, according to Bennett, a copy of the data created by Dominion Voting Services from hard drives and servers that Maricopa County delivered to the state Senate in response to a subpoena. The data was then handed over to Cyber Ninjas, the controversial firm that is "auditing" the election records.

I don't know if I'm understanding this correctly, but is this indicating that Dominion made a copy of the data on the servers that they refused to hand over the passwords for? And that data is what was sent to the Montana "lab"?

"The original evidence was left completely intact," Bennett told 12 News. "A copy was taken to do whatever evaluation they are doing for Cyber Ninjas."

And what should we make of Bennett's description as "evidence" rather than simply "data"? I don't know if that's just a poor choice of wording by Bennett, or if it's a literal description of what they found.

The article later clarifies that the destination is the home of Ben Cotton, one of the sub-contractors conducting the audit:

Azcentral.com Maricopa County reporter Jen Fifield reported on June 1 that Cyber Technology Services (CyTech) is an affiliate company of CyFIR LLC. CyFIR is a digital security company working as a subcontractor for Cyber Ninjas, the Florida-based cybersecurity company that the Arizona Senate Republicans chose to run the audit.

CyFIR CEO Ben Cotton is also listed as the CEO of CyTech, first pointed out by Fifield. CyTech is based in Montana, according to its website.

So the data was not sent to some random outside company, but I don't understand this:

NBC Montana reporter Maritsa Georgiou told 12 News on Thursday that the address to CyTech, listed on their website, shows up as a remote cabin in a part of Montana that doesn't have cell service.

From Montana taxes, 12 News found that the incorporated address listed for CyTech is Cotton's home in Montana; however, the registered office for CyTech is in Manassas, Virginia.

Where exactly this lab is located is not known.

If they have the address, and know it's in a "remote" part of Montana, then how do they not know exactly where the lab is located?

Very curious...

a reply to: Boadicea


The court approved the file shipment in advance IIRC.

Only hobbs & media friends 'appear' to be surprised about this.



Using remote cabin as official address is pretty common in security fields so I wouldn't read much into that, as long as court approved.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Boadicea


The court approved the file shipment in advance IIRC.

Only hobbs & media friends 'appear' to be surprised about this.

Using remote cabin as official address is pretty common in security fields so I wouldn't read much into that, as long as court approved.

Ahhhhh... gotcha! I can see why that would be.

I'll keep this in mind.

Thank you!