How do mutations code sequence to symbols?

a reply to: neoholographic

I think you’re completely misinterpreting my posts

I’m not actually saying our evolved ‘design’ is bad. It’s incredible. But when people say we are ‘intelligently designed’ and you look at the mistakes evolution crops up and the current ‘model’ of humans - you have to ask who, if designed by an intelligence, would choose those options?

I’m not saying we’re badly designed. Only inefficient compared to what an intelligent being would create

When I create things I make them as perfect as possible. Humans are far from perfect. Very far

But very efficient when you look at the process of natural secretion.

I’m not sure why you’re going down such a weird alleyway

a reply to: noonebutme

Again, you're here to ask these questions because you were designed by intelligence.

A weird alleyway? You're the one who made that asinine argument not me. It's only weird because you realize it doesn't make any sense. You've probably made that argument before but nobody has ever debated you on the overall idiocy of the argument.

You said:

When humans build machines, they try to choose materials that don’t break down or wear out.

Have you ever been to a junk yard LOL!

If we make things that don't break down or wear out, how do furniture stores or auto stores make any money? Why are people buying new stuff when old stuff wears out in 20 years?

Yet, it's a bad design that has created all of the life that has existed over billions of years! My sister just moved and bought new furniture because her kids WORE OUT the old furniture.

You have scientist that were designed who still can't figure out the orginazational complexity of information that's correlated to carry out gene regulation. Yet you claim it's a bad design? The same bad designer designed the people who created the internet you're on, the computer or phone you're on, Above Top Secret Website you're on and more. How easy it is for the one who was intelligently designed to say it's a bad design.

I understand why you make that argument though, it's because you can't refute any of the evidence presented that shows correlation of design and of information in DNA and organisms that evolve. This correlation of information is the hallmark of how we quantify intelligence and systems designed by intelligence.

So when you can't refute the evidence, you resort to an asinine argument. I get it!

a reply to: noonebutme

Your right first are backs were not meant to walk upright this is why we a plagued with back injuries. Are knees are not flexible like other animals leading to knee injuries. Then our vision our retinas are backward the photoreceptor cells in the retina of the eye are like microphones facing backward. This design forces light to travel the length of each cell, as well as through blood and tissue, to reach the equivalent of a receiver on the cell’s back side. The trachea (windpipe) and esophagus (food pipe) open into the same space that was just stupid. Lets not forget because our brain was built in stages and in effect we have two brains we have depression, madness, unreliable memories, and confirmation bias.

Our design really sucks if someone did this to us

If you're going to claim "nature blindly did it" then you're going to have to explain how the correlation between analog and digital information occured. When we quantify intelligence, we do so on the basis on how a person or a system designed by a person finds correlations in the data or correlates information and designed parts to work together.

Here's more:

DNA information: from digital code to analogue structure

Abstract

The digital linear coding carried by the base pairs in the DNA double helix is now known to have an important component that acts by altering, along its length, the natural shape and stiffness of the molecule. In this way, one region of DNA is structurally distinguished from another, constituting an additional form of encoded information manifest in three-dimensional space. These shape and stiffness variations help in guiding and facilitating the DNA during its three-dimensional spatial interactions. Such interactions with itself allow communication between genes and enhanced wrapping and histone-octamer binding within the nucleosome core particle. Meanwhile, interactions with proteins can have a reduced entropic binding penalty owing to advantageous sequence-dependent bending anisotropy. Sequence periodicity within the DNA, giving a corresponding structural periodicity of shape and stiffness, also influences the supercoiling of the molecule, which, in turn, plays an important facilitating role. In effect, the super-helical density acts as an analogue regulatory mode in contrast to the more commonly acknowledged purely digital mode. Many of these ideas are still poorly understood, and represent a fundamental and outstanding biological question. This review gives an overview of very recent developments, and hopefully identifies promising future lines of enquiry.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Digital and Analog Information Housed in DNA

Two researchers have demonstrated that DNA harbors information in both digital and analog formats. These two types of information appear to be coupled intrinsically through DNA nucleotide sequences to form an irreducibly complex system. This new insight reveals the elegant sophistication of genomes and advances the case for intelligent design by highlighting the remarkable analogy between the structure and operation of biochemical information systems and the information systems produced by human designers.

tnrtb.wordpress.com...

Encoding multiple digital DNA signals in a single analog channel

Abstract

For many analytic and biomedical applications, the presence of an analyte above or below a critical concentration is more informative for decision making than the actual concentration value. Straightforward analog-to-digital signal conversion does not take full advantage of the precision and dynamic range of modern sensors. Here, we present and experimentally demonstrate an analog-to-multiple-digital signal conversion, reporting digital signals that indicate whether the concentrations of specific DNA sequences exceed respective threshold values. These threshold values can be individually programmed for each target sequence. Experimentally, we showed representation of four DNA targets’ information in a single fluorescence channel.

academic.oup.com...

Integration of syntactic and semantic properties of the DNA code reveals chromosomes as thermodynamic machines converting energy into information

Abstract

Understanding genetic regulation is a problem of fundamental importance. Recent studies have made it increasingly evident that, whereas the cellular genetic regulation system embodies multiple disparate elements engaged in numerous interactions, the central issue is the genuine function of the DNA molecule as information carrier. Compelling evidence suggests that the DNA, in addition to the digital information of the linear genetic code (the semantics), encodes equally important continuous, or analog, information that specifies the structural dynamics and configuration (the syntax) of the polymer. These two DNA information types are intrinsically coupled in the primary sequence organisation, and this coupling is directly relevant to regulation of the genetic function. In this review, we emphasise the critical need of holistic integration of the DNA information as a prerequisite for understanding the organisational complexity of the genetic regulation system.

link.springer.com...

I can go on and on with published papers that talk about digital and analog information and DNA. This isn't even a debate. Blind believers can't stand it when they hear the words code or digital information because logically these things are associated with intelligence.

Digital information is just information stored on discrete values like 1,0 or A,C,T,G in DNA. It's why DNA is seen as the most powerful storage medium in the universe that we know of and we can store information like books, CD's and PDF files on DNA.

Show me when the environment decided that the point mutation that causes sickle cell would be a benefit that helps people survive where malaria is heavily present.

I agree, the fantasy of Darwin says that should happen but the fossil record and all of the evidence show a one to one correspondence between the need of the organsim and the evolution of the traits it needs to survive.

When Malaria spreads throughout a population a specific mutation occurs at a specific point that changes Glutamic Acid to Valine. This change gives a survival advantage to those with Malaria. You don't get Leucine mutating into Histidine or Histidine mutating into Valine. You get a specific mutation at a specific point that gives a population where Malaria is spreading a protective advantage against Malaria. There's no evolution needed just a change in the code at the exact point needed to respond to the change in the environment.

Where are the bad mutations and neutral mutations that the point mutation that turned Glutamic Acid to Valine selected against in the environment where Malaria spreads?

a reply to: neoholographic

That simple there is no such thing as digital code in DNA. You can say it's like digital code but since it's not a computer it's not! This was one of those dumb arguments I was talking about making a correlation that isn't there. I can say DNA is like lego blocks and not digital at all simply fitting parts together. I did get a laugh through analog and digital biology. Can't wait for that class in college digital biology lol.

a reply to: dragonridr

What???

It's not like a digital code, it's a code. Only blind believers say this today because they know words like code and digital information is connected to intelligent design. Here's more:

Information theory terms and ideas applied to DNA are not metaphorical, but in fact quite literal in every way. In other words, the information theory argument for design is not based on analogy at all. It is direct application of mathematics to DNA, which by definition is a code.

The book Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life is written by Hubert Yockey, the foremost living specialist in bioinformatics. The publisher is Cambridge University press. Yockey rigorously demonstrates that the coding process in DNA is identical to the coding process and mathematical definitions used in Electrical Engineering. This is not subjective, it is not debatable or even controversial. It is a brute fact:

“Information, transcription, translation, code, redundancy, synonymous, messenger, editing, and proofreading are all appropriate terms in biology. They take their meaning from information theory (Shannon, 1948) and are not synonyms, metaphors, or analogies.” (Hubert P. Yockey, Information Theory, Evolution, and the Origin of Life, Cambridge University Press, 2005)

evo2.org...

Yes, DNA is a code that stores information digitally. This is why we can encode and decode information like books, DVD's or PDF files on DNA.

Like I said, the only people who still make this argument are blind believers who can't accept we're talking about codes, digital information and more not like information or like a code.

It's sad because this big lie has been used to separate men from their Creator.

When you read about DNA and how systems evolve, you will hear all of the words used to describe systems designed by intelligence. I was just reading a paper the other day that described what happens with transcripition and translation as a factory. You will hear, factory, redundancy, editing, error correction, code, information, digital information, copying, messaging, encoding, decoding, software, supercomputer, storage and more. All of these things we associate with intelligent design.

We use these words because they're desribing exactly what they see, Intelligent Design!

a reply to: noonebutme

It’s not Jesus man, it’s you

Imagine the code as a very very detailed book, an instruction manual, incomparably complex set of schematics to build living, breathing-life and you, really

It needs a author and it needs a designer and it needs builders and what?
You say what?

“it needs to be run”
It needs to be run in what, space dust and space water
You believe that?

a reply to: neoholographic

DNA is a polymer, which is composed of individual chemical units called nucleotides. There are four types of these nucleotides, and we humans have decided to call them adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine. These names are not entirely arbitrary, but in the end, there’s nothing magical about them. We could call them mike, mark, Janet, and dave, and they’d still be the same. DNA is just a chemical process, in fact, it is exactly the same in nature as any other dynamic chemical process. When you see an explosion on TV, you’re watching a chemical reaction that was controlled by the same kind of “code.” Crystals grow based on such a code. Stars give off light and energy from the same kind of code.

Sure, it seems magical that something as simple as four little nucleotides could be responsible for all the diverse life on the planet, but our sense of wonder at the versatility of carbon shouldn’t woo us into the false belief that incredible versatility is equivalent to design. DNA is not a “code” in the normal sense of the word. We call it a code because doing so gives us an easy way to think of the process by which a strand of DNA is responsible for the building of a living thing.

If DNA is a code, then so is every other molecule in the universe. Because every reaction in physics is based on interactions

a reply to: dragonridr
a reply to: dragonridr

^^ exactly this. Someone gets what I’m trying to say.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Imagine the code as a very very detailed book, an instruction manual, incomparably complex set of schematics to build living, breathing-life and you, really

Yes, that’s what science has shown DNA to be, instructions. We know this.

It needs a author and it needs a designer and it needs builders and what? You say what?

I never said that. You are saying that. Incorrectly. Why does it NEED an author/designer? The point of evolution, which is a fact, not a ‘theory’, is how, over billions of years, life evolved. Perhaps to you it’s completely impossible, especially if you’re coming from the position that there has to be some ‘designer’ behind it.

“it needs to be run”It needs to be run in what, space dust and space water
You believe that?

No...O_o. Who said it needs to be run in space dust and water?

I don’t think this is going to be easily answered like this. You’re intentionally skipping stages, like how cells evolved, how cells divide, why they divide, how cells use energy, etc.

I’m not saying I *know* how life on earth came to be, I don’t think any scientist would be so arrogant to claim that. But they have very good explanations and theories based on the evidence.

There is zero evidence that DNA or life on earth was intelligently designed. The only places that claim that are the religious.

AGain I’ll put this out there: If you were an intelligent designer and we’re going to create ‘life’ on earth, specifically humans — why would you choose the current design? Why would you choose a system of senses that in comparison to many of our ancestral predators, are far inferior? Why would you make an immune system so prone to error and susceptible to infection, or even attack itself? Why would you design a ‘code’ that allows such incredible mistakes as to give incurable cancer to children? What sort of crap intelligence are you?

None of the code I write at work fails so spectacularly. And I’m a measly human. My code is far more efficient, logical and practical than any ‘supernatural being’ who would have designed us.

a reply to: noonebutme

Cells can’t evolve without a code
That’s it, go play with your play dough

a reply to: Raggedyman

DNA (or code as you put it) is not what makes cells evolve. Random mutations in that DNA that benefit the organism lead to evolution.

You are a very angry person, mate. Perhaps you need to pray for some patience and tolerance.

a reply to: noonebutme

Angry. Frustrated is not angry, I can’t help you
Leave me alone

a reply to: noonebutme

You said:

None of the code I write at work fails so spectacularly. And I’m a measly human. My code is far more efficient, logical and practical than any ‘supernatural being’ who would have designed us.

This is just an asinine comment. You make it because you can't refute actual evidence presented.

It's a bad design but it has lasted billions of years! Hello McFly, BILLIONS OF years!.

It has created milions of organisms including humans!

It's amazing that people say it's a bad design who are sitting on their computers created by humans who were designed. The idiocy of the argument is just astounding.

You claim that you can write better code and it's just laughable. The guy who created one of the biggest companies in the world and who writes code as I do said this:

“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.” - Bill Gates

It's a code that has lasted billions of years and it adapts to different environment. Name me a computer code like that designed by humans.

Show me the code that allows machines to adapt to different environments and change their structure. Look at extremophiles!

You said:

DNA (or code as you put it) is not what makes cells evolve. Random mutations in that DNA that benefit the organism lead to evolution.

How do random mutations make the cell evolve without the designed genetic code. When mutations occurs, what part of the genetic code is changed?

I'm gonna repeat that because you haven't provided evidence to support anything you say. You just keep making the asinine argument about a bad design when you wouldn't exist without it. So answer the question.

When mutations occurs, what part of the genetic code is changed?

Here's the genetic code because I doubt you ever seen it.



First, show me the evidence that shows a mutation coded GTG to Valine. I don't want to here your asinine argument about a bad design. You claim that mutations create these things. Show me evidence that mutations encoded Valine to the sequence GTG.

Show me the evidence that shows when a mutation occurs it changes the genetic code. It changes the sequence of the genetic code but GTG still codes for Valine and GAG for Glutamic Acid. So how can a mutation cause the cell to evolve when the way it can evolve is governed by the genetic code that doesn't change and hasn't changed for billions of years?

Answer this.

If life evolved based on mutations and the environment through natural selection, when humans are in an environment prevalent with sickle cell, a point mutation occurs that changes Glutamic Acid to Valine, what mutations were selected against that didn't give humans in an environment prevalent with sickle cell a benefit?



Here's one more. I know you will not answer with any evidence because a natural interpretation is a fantasy.

Tell me the mutations that encoded DNA with a linear digital code that codes for proteins and in the same code is a code that governs analog systems like the supercoiling of the polymer that allows for organizational complexity of gene regulation.

Again, you said this was a bad design and that mutations do all things. Here's the published paper.

Integration of syntactic and semantic properties of the DNA code reveals chromosomes as thermodynamic machines converting energy into information

Abstract

Understanding genetic regulation is a problem of fundamental importance. Recent studies have made it increasingly evident that, whereas the cellular genetic regulation system embodies multiple disparate elements engaged in numerous interactions, the central issue is the genuine function of the DNA molecule as information carrier. Compelling evidence suggests that the DNA, in addition to the digital information of the linear genetic code (the semantics), encodes equally important continuous, or analog, information that specifies the structural dynamics and configuration (the syntax) of the polymer. These two DNA information types are intrinsically coupled in the primary sequence organisation, and this coupling is directly relevant to regulation of the genetic function. In this review, we emphasise the critical need of holistic integration of the DNA information as a prerequisite for understanding the organisational complexity of the genetic regulation system.

Put another way, this implies that the structural dynamics of the chromosome must be fully convertible into its genetic expression and vice versa. Since the DNA is an essential carrier of genetic information, the fundamental question is how this self-referential organisation is encoded in the sequence of the DNA polymer.

Here's the kicker.

Self-referential organisation, as we put it here, implies inter-conversion of information between logically distinct coding systems specifying each other reciprocally. Thus, the holistic approach assumes selfreferentiality (completeness of the contained information and full consistency of the different codes) as an irreducible organisational complexity of the genetic regulation system of any cell.

link.springer.com...

IRREDUCIBLE ORGANIZATIONAL COMPLEXITY!

Tell me, how did random mutations create this irreducible organizational complexity of information that's self-referential between the digital code for proteins and the analog systems that contribute to gene regulation?

I have to do one more. I know you don't understand this stuff and will continue to blindly make the same arguments, but this is BRILLIANT DESIGN!

The authors describe the supercoiling (superhelicity) of the DNA, which affects levels of transcription in a rheostatic (analog) manner, is arranged in a gradient from the origin of replication to the terminus. Anabolic functions, which are expressed early in the cell cycle, show a preference to be on the leading strand (with regard to replication) and are organized close to the origin of replication, whereas catabolic functions are expressed late in the cell cycle, organized toward the terminal region of replication. Furthermore, the anabolic genes require high negative superhelicity for transcription, which is increased during rapid growth and therefore rapid replication of the DNA. So, during rapid growth, when anabolic functions become a limiting factor, a bottleneck if you will, the DNA replication generates more strain on the chromosome, i.e. more negative superhelicity, which is exactly the parameters for increasing anabolic functions. Brilliant.

evolutionnews.org...

In other words, DNA just isn't encoded with information to create proteins, it's also encoded with information that regulates the parameters of supercoiling in successive base pairs!

Again, explain to me how mutations create a digital to analog code like this that's better than anything we can currently do.

a reply to: neoholographic

Ok first you missed something important so i will highlight it for you

“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.” - Bill Gates

See this is called an anology when you say something is like something else. It doesnt mean that is what it is it simply means there are some corelations. In this case he was trying to say DNA tells a cell what to build.

Now with genetic disorders not all changes to genetic code are benificial so you bringing up sickle cell proves nothing other than if this was coded by an intelligent being sickle cell wouldnt exist. Its a random variation which indeed proves that occurs. Theres random mutations that we see in our lives with insects. We have some insects that are immune to a certain poison those insects survive and breed creating say ants that cant be killed with our normal insecticides. In fact the more you use insecticides the more nature creates an immunity.

Now saying DNA is like a cose is ok as a basic anology but it isnt a code. What it is are chemical reactions our universe is full of them. What we can do is take these rules and figure out why nature does this with these chemicals. every chemical reaction follows the same rules and really goes back to physics

originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: neoholographic

I think you’re completely misinterpreting my posts

I’m not actually saying our evolved ‘design’ is bad. It’s incredible. But when people say we are ‘intelligently designed’ and you look at the mistakes evolution crops up and the current ‘model’ of humans - you have to ask who, if designed by an intelligence, would choose those options?

Humans are far from perfect. Very far

Stop sinning and you'll realize how great the design actually is. Justice is programmed even into our biology so that we face the consequences of deviant behavior. We are being taught from an infallible level and you can't see it because you're so soaked in these random-chance delusions of evolution.

But very efficient when you look at the process of natural secretion.

I’m not sure why you’re going down such a weird alleyway

Could you imagine a monkey building the terminator robot? Of course not. It's an absurd idea even if it was given infinite time. The fact is that humans are organic supercomputers that could not have been created by random chance. Evolution is the weirdest dead-end alleyway I have ever been down my life. It's so dark in there, it took me ten years to even realize I should turn around.

a reply to: dragonridr

Of course it's like a computer program but we haven't managed to make anything like it and it's far more advanced.

It's a storage medium, where it can store the world's information in one room.

Tell me how random mutations created a storage medium with information digitally encoded in it's sequence.

Your vacuous posts are full of opinion without a shred of evidence. Listen to this nonsense!

Now with genetic disorders not all changes to genetic code are benificial so you bringing up sickle cell proves nothing other than if this was coded by an intelligent being sickle cell wouldnt exist. Its a random variation which indeed proves that occurs.

Pure Gobledygook! What does this nonsense mean? Can someone decipher the meaning of this nonsensical statement?

You said:

Now saying DNA is like a cose is ok as a basic anology but it isnt a code.

You're lying. It's exactly a code. How many times to I have to repeat this? Show me evidence that it isn't a digital code not just your vacuous opinion.

[exInformation theory terms and ideas applied to DNA are not metaphorical, but in fact quite literal in every way. In other words, the information theory argument for design is not based on analogy at all. It is direct application of mathematics to DNA, which by definition is a code.

The book Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life is written by Hubert Yockey, the foremost living specialist in bioinformatics. The publisher is Cambridge University press. Yockey rigorously demonstrates that the coding process in DNA is identical to the coding process and mathematical definitions used in Electrical Engineering. This is not subjective, it is not debatable or even controversial. It is a brute fact:

“Information, transcription, translation, code, redundancy, synonymous, messenger, editing, and proofreading are all appropriate terms in biology. They take their meaning from information theory (Shannon, 1948) and are not synonyms, metaphors, or analogies.” (Hubert P. Yockey, Information Theory, Evolution, and the Origin of Life, Cambridge University Press, 2005)

evo2.org...

Abstract
Understanding genetic regulation is a problem of fundamental importance. Recent studies have made it increasingly evident that, whereas the cellular genetic regulation system embodies multiple disparate elements engaged in numerous interactions, the central issue is the genuine function of the DNA molecule as information carrier. Compelling evidence suggests that the DNA, in addition to the digital information of the linear genetic code (the semantics), encodes equally important continuous, or analog, information that specifies the structural dynamics and configuration (the syntax) of the polymer. These two DNA information types are intrinsically coupled in the primary sequence organisation, and this coupling is directly relevant to regulation of the genetic function. In this review, we emphasise the critical need of holistic integration of the DNA information as a prerequisite for understanding the organisational complexity of the genetic regulation system.

link.springer.com...

I don't even think you know what digital information is or the difference between analog and digital.

DNA information: from digital code to analogue structure

Abstract

The digital linear coding carried by the base pairs in the DNA double helix is now known to have an important component that acts by altering, along its length, the natural shape and stiffness of the molecule. In this way, one region of DNA is structurally distinguished from another, constituting an additional form of encoded information manifest in three-dimensional space. These shape and stiffness variations help in guiding and facilitating the DNA during its three-dimensional spatial interactions. Such interactions with itself allow communication between genes and enhanced wrapping and histone-octamer binding within the nucleosome core particle. Meanwhile, interactions with proteins can have a reduced entropic binding penalty owing to advantageous sequence-dependent bending anisotropy. Sequence periodicity within the DNA, giving a corresponding structural periodicity of shape and stiffness, also influences the supercoiling of the molecule, which, in turn, plays an important facilitating role. In effect, the super-helical density acts as an analogue regulatory mode in contrast to the more commonly acknowledged purely digital mode. Many of these ideas are still poorly understood, and represent a fundamental and outstanding biological question. This review gives an overview of very recent developments, and hopefully identifies promising future lines of enquiry.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Tell me how mutations digital code that encodes information not only to build proteteins but also information to build modular machines to assemble and decode this information?

Explain to me how mutations create a digital to analog code like this that's better than anything we can currently do?

Show me the evidence that shows when a mutation occurs it changes the genetic code. It changes the sequence of the genetic code but GTG still codes for Valine and GAG for Glutamic Acid. So how can a mutation cause the cell to evolve when the way it can evolve is governed by the genetic code that doesn't change and hasn't changed for billions of years?

We can encode DNA with things like PDF files, VD's and CD's.



Tell me, how mutations created a storage medium that encodes information digitally and it lasts for billions of years? How did mutations create a digital to analog self=referential code that we can't create? Give me the step by step process not vacuous opinions.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: neoholographic

I think you’re completely misinterpreting my posts

I’m not actually saying our evolved ‘design’ is bad. It’s incredible. But when people say we are ‘intelligently designed’ and you look at the mistakes evolution crops up and the current ‘model’ of humans - you have to ask who, if designed by an intelligence, would choose those options?

Humans are far from perfect. Very far

Stop sinning and you'll realize how great the design actually is. Justice is programmed even into our biology so that we face the consequences of deviant behavior. We are being taught from an infallible level and you can't see it because you're so soaked in these random-chance delusions of evolution.

But very efficient when you look at the process of natural secretion.

I’m not sure why you’re going down such a weird alleyway

Could you imagine a monkey building the terminator robot? Of course not. It's an absurd idea even if it was given infinite time. The fact is that humans are organic supercomputers that could not have been created by random chance. Evolution is the weirdest dead-end alleyway I have ever been down my life. It's so dark in there, it took me ten years to even realize I should turn around.

Exactly!

a reply to: neoholographic

Ill say this quantum computing is far more difficult than DNA coding. Again you fail to understand we are still talking about chemical reactions. Chemistry has certain rules built right in it requires certain conditions and you will get specific results. Metabolism is easy it kind of just appears because of interactions between molecules.

In the case of early life were you aware RNA can actually do the same functions as proteins?

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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: neoholographic

Ill say this quantum computing is far more difficult than DNA coding. Again you fail to understand we are still talking about chemical reactions. Chemistry has certain rules built right in it requires certain conditions and you will get specific results. Metabolism is easy it kind of just appears because of interactions between molecules.

It's because you don't know the intricacies of metabolic feedback mechanisms. The ability for our body's metabolism to detect various cues and orchestrate certain functions based on those signals is mind-boggling. These biochemical cascades are still mostly undefined by our scientists due to how vast their networks are. The more you learn about biology, the more you realize that random chance could not have orchestrated its complexity.

In the case of early life were you aware RNA can actually do the same functions as proteins?

But you know now through our conversation in the other thread that RNA monomers cannot polymerize into RNA strands... Are you not paying attention?