New development in Capitol shooting...

a reply to: recrisp

I will admit this which is completely anomalous:

- After she is shot, the man with the rifle bends down and grabs her wrist to move it out the way.. it looks like he is looking for her wound and looks at her neck. After he confirms a fatal wound, he gets up points down at her, moves toward the door and first aims his rifle at the door (What was that for?) and then communicates something with hand signals to a person on the other side, not sure if thats thumbs up, but something like, points down a couple times and seems like he got order to retreat down the stairs(?)

Have no clue whats going on.. but police on stairs acting weird from the beginning. Just standing around while people knocking out windows and before she gets shot, they are casually walking down the stairs.

originally posted by: TKDRL
A lot of lefties are not only ignoring there were cops close on the protestor's side of the door, they are claiming the guys with rifles are armed protestors lol...... I have had to post the pics showing they are cops over and over, and still some keep on making that claim.

That is what I keep posting from the first released video that shows they are cops.

They do tend to do that! heheh
Yeah, no matter how many times some people watch stuff, they still don't see what is truly there.

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: recrisp

G-D what a total f23434g coward. Clearly ordered to shoot some one.
This is the first I've looked at any of this and that's my initial reaction.
And you know what? It's more than enough to make me care "What side
of the aisle you're on". This your psychopath politicians people! and you
wonder why I say:

THE ONLY THING THEY UNDERSTAND IS VIOLENCE!

Perhaps you haven't seen this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: American-philosopher

So, if you saw it, why didn't you post it?

a reply to: recrisp

Because today is my first day being back on ATS in awhile, and this happened on Wednesday and I would have figured that this would have been posted about 10 million times on here already.

Did you see the gun mans perspective video yet?

another question is why didnt he shoot to incapacitate rather then to kill someone who is unarmed?

No, I have not seen that other vantage pojnt, AND, please, if you do see it, please post it, I would love to see that.

Yeah, really, there were so many other ways that this could have gone down, I mean, I am pretty sure that a security guy like that doesn't carry a stun gun, but surely they have mace/pepper spray, or he had plenty of time to call for back-up.
That, to me was one of my main points that I mean to make along with this, thank you.

That's all there is to it, none of this makes sense.

a reply to: olaru12

Do you think I needed to see that?

What are you hallucinating about?

originally posted by: TKDRL
A lot of lefties are not only ignoring there were cops close on the protestor's side of the door, they are claiming the guys with rifles are armed protestors lol...... I have had to post the pics showing they are cops over and over, and still some keep on making that claim.

That is what I keep posting from the first released video that shows they are cops.

No way! That’s like the right claiming the Tauren Chieftan wasn’t part of the seditious insurrection.

Still trying to figure out what Horde politics has to do with American Democracy....

a reply to: carsforkids
I didn't take what you said was 'for violence', it was that they 'make violence', they only understand that they 'need to' make violence..

originally posted by: recrisp
a reply to: carsforkids
I didn't take what you said was 'for violence', it was that they 'make violence', they only understand that they 'need to' make violence..

Obviously she/he feels threatened!

a reply to: recrisp

Sure, here is link from Fox news.

www.fox5dc.com...

This is what caught my eye, from another source.

Liebengood’s father, Howard Sr., was the Senate Sargeant at Arms in the early 1980s and previously served as chief of staff for two Republican senators. He later became a lobbyist, who worked with former Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort. www.thewrap.com...

This is what one would be looking for to happen in the aftermath,
if there was foul play of an inside job....people being suicided.

His father just happened to work for Paul Manafort.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: recrisp

Sure, here is link from Fox news.

www.fox5dc.com...

This is what caught my eye, from another source.

Liebengood’s father, Howard Sr., was the Senate Sargeant at Arms in the early 1980s and previously served as chief of staff for two Republican senators. He later became a lobbyist, who worked with former Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort. www.thewrap.com...

This is what one would be looking for to happen in the aftermath,
if there was foul play of an inside job....people being suicided.

His father just happened to work for Paul Manafort.

Wow. I know six-degrees of separation and all

But this almost. Looks. Like. A. Conspiracy.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: recrisp

Sure, here is link from Fox news.

www.fox5dc.com...

This is what caught my eye, from another source.

Liebengood’s father, Howard Sr., was the Senate Sargeant at Arms in the early 1980s and previously served as chief of staff for two Republican senators. He later became a lobbyist, who worked with former Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort. www.thewrap.com...

This is what one would be looking for to happen in the aftermath,
if there was foul play of an inside job....people being suicided.

His father just happened to work for Paul Manafort.

Ohhhh, I didn't realize that there were TWO cops that have died. Now it makes sense in what you said.
I thought that you meant that the guy that was attacked killed himself. heheh
Thank you for that link, I do appreciate that.
To bad about him too, I mean, he must've had some problems, and he was probably in a bad place.
Or, like you said, "suicided", I missed that part.

a reply to: slatesteam

Yep, a conspiracy.
Sadly, I was expecting this kind of news.

There are just too many things adding up already.

Not the least of which the Mayor of D.C. had issued a stand down
order ahead of the protest. I am keeping a list, if it gets large
enough I'll put it all out there.

a reply to: Xtrozero

In all seriousness no one but the one guy who shot had their guns drawn and he shot just one person. As some said the advancement was extremely slow and it was easy to see she was a woman, and not very big. The video showed the cop off in the corner to the left then he stepped out no warning no orders to get back, just one step forward and pulled the trigger...

You left me hang'n there amigo. Protecting no one.
Clearly he was waiting with intent for the right moment to take a life.
And this poor lady was the lottery pick. Mission complete bonus secure.

a reply to: burntheships

Nice work. The crumbs are providing a trail faintly now

Not enough to ever figure this out. Not that it could be

Damn sure nothing is admitted.

Plausible deniability.

“The Truth is out there”

Edit: I dunno what a “big list” looks like.

But you got a helluva start amigo....

a reply to: nOraKat
Oh, I'm sorry that I didn't realize that I skipped this, it got kind of busy during that time.

The cop stands up and has his rifle ready and looks at where the shot came from, that is what anyone should do if they have just witnessed a shooting. He's making sure that what he hopes is there, is there, meaning, his kind.
He definitely gives a thumbs up because they communicated through hand signals. Really quickly he was sure that it was 'his guy' and he was safe. That is all that was about.

You're right, the cops did act like none of this was a big deal, which is why I placed this here in the first place, none of this stuff makes any sense, I mean, this was not a bunch of newbie cops, this was probably their best cops on the job. The question that should be asked is, who was their commander?

a reply to: recrisp

The cop stands up and has his rifle ready and looks at where the shot came from, that is what anyone should do if they have just witnessed a shooting. He's making sure that what he hopes is there, is there, meaning, his kind.
He definitely gives a thumbs up because they communicated through hand signals. Really quickly he was sure that it was 'his guy' and he was safe. That is all that was about.

So this un named cop in plain clothes shoots some one and the
cops not in plain clothes identify with him immediately? With
shots fired? Being in plain clothes the other cops have a protocol
to follow to secure the scene of a shooting. WTF are they doing
giving a thumbs up?

a reply to: carsforkids
No, I don't think so, I believe that way at the other end of the hall, that is who he was signalling to. If you saw the other videos where there is some action on that end, before this shooter is involved. It appears that maybe they had a chair or two at the end of the hall?

Really, it's pretty far away, but that is who he is 'probably' signalling to, because, one thing, he could have shaken the shooter's hand if he wanted, he was so close.

Really though, he could have talked with him, but it looked to me that he was looking farther down that hall.

Oh yeah, a "thumbs up" is just the "O.K." signal, meaning, we're all O.K., type of stuff. I don't think it was bragging, or anything crazy, it was a
a departmental type code they use.

a reply to: recrisp

A shat rings out a female falls to the floor victim of a gun shot
wound. And they just carry on giving a thumbs up to who ever?

How is it those in uniform don't follow procedure. Don't get me
wrong I'm no expert at procedure but that just.....can't be it and
I know there is a procedure. There has to be for training purposes?

originally posted by: slatesteam

Plausible deniability.

“The Truth is out there”

Edit: I dunno what a “big list” looks like.

Well, the FBI is investigating, as of before that officer
was suicided. which is one on the list. Supposedly looking
for "inside job" type of stuff.

Should be comforting, but it is not.
Also curious that the FBI investigation is not widely reported.

a reply to: slatesteam
Manafort was or is also part owner of a company called ESI which was involved in some interesting issues in the Ukraine regarding events and overthrown governments, the company was also in charge of the DC event on Wed.

There's a very long Twitter thread going back to 2018 with plenty of attached documentation. It would take a while to sort it all out. The implication is that ESI would have information regarding security, etc.

Thus the knowledge now that the officers father was friends with Manafort makes the issue intriguing.

It starts here
Twitter

With someone with the Twitter handle Venture Capital commenting with numerous posts and documentation.

It just struck me because I started diving into the tweet info right before I read your post.