WHO Chief Scientist Warns "No Evidence COVID Vaccine Prevents Viral Transmission"

a reply to: DeusInAbsentia

Yes and the focus is to have the vaccine stop COVID-19 in the upper respiratory tract before moving to the lower airway and other parts of the body. I guess the flu vaccine works in a similar way. The way covid binds, our immune system can stop it and control it but we can still spread it to others, some data points to awhile which is unusual. It can also mess with regulatory aspects and if the vaccine is haphazard, that can kill people. The vaccines have a high rate of systemic reactions compared to others. This could be problematic but it could also mean it’s creating a good immune response.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc
As I said over on the Covid thread, I suspect it will mess with our T cell immune response to other microbes our body deals with on a daily basis.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say we are going to find massive upticks in other virus/bacteria ailments which previously people could fight off naturally and normally.
I would rather have the symptoms of Covid (pretty sure I have already several times) than have a vaccine, which at best, is only going to suppress my immune response, mask symptoms and thus make me an asymptomatic carrier.

Rainbows
Jane

The WHO changed the meaning of herd immunity recently to remove natural herd immunity and keep only vaccine accomplished herd immunity.
Now we are being told that a vaccine will not accomplish herd immunity???

We are being led down a path that I don't like.

a reply to: angelchemuel

Yeah we can put you down for the box labeled vaccine associated enhanced respiratory disease. This is a real thing, the RSV vaccine trials killed people because of it. Swine flu vaccine may have caused related issues but we didn’t test for it, only confirmed it in a study. It’s far more likely with the same virus or closely related viruses, sometimes in the same tissue or body system. It’s possible, it’s why you don’t rush these things. High rate of systemic reactions are the first red flag.

I read this already a month ago. It is supposed to only lower the time that you are infectious and transmit the disease, even fauchi mentioned that people still must wear masks. It does not give immunity, it just triggers the immune system to fight it a little quicker and helps to prevent the virus from going covid19.

Nowhere in the evidence does it state that you cannot pass this disease on if you get it.

A vaccine means your body is better equipped to battle the infection and survive, it does nothing to prevent you contracting/communicating the virus especially if you come in direct contact. It's very possible that everyone who has defeated the virus is now asymptomatic carrier and they are a walking exposure risk.

a reply to: TzarChasm
So no point in getting the vaccine right?

Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: camain
a reply to: Snarl

from my line of thinking, it would not. the RNA vaccine just helps your body identify and fight the virus. it doesn't stop it from breeding in your system, and growing in your system. it only lets your systems natural immunity find it so it can kill it faster. while its still in your system, you could spread it via whatever means, so ya, you could still transmit it if you come in contact with it. Makes sense to me. There not using the virus in any way, just the protein that identifies it.

Camain

The Great Virus Lie has filled everyones heads with bullspit.

Its not a virus there is no such thing...never was.

There are VIRAL SIZED things.

Its a viral sized bacteria with a lipid fat coating that makes it extremely difficult for your antibodies to identify it as a contaminate and not a legitimate viral sized garbage bag of Antibody coated dead inert RNA/DNA.

Adding more Antibodies to the equation is not the solution...not at all.

a reply to: one4all

You realize that pretty much everything that sized has a lipid coating right? Do you know why they have lipid coatings? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not to shield from antibodies because proteins are the identifiers. How does this bacteria reproduce out of curiosity?

a reply to: Snarl

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Let's cancel 2021 all together.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: TzarChasm
So no point in getting the vaccine right?

Rainbows
Jane

The vaccine was never intended to prevent transmission, just to act as a kevlar vest & helmet in an environment known for sneaky projectiles. Obviously not fool proof but better than hiding in your basement until danger is gone. And just because you have been vaccinated doesn't obligate you to reenter society if you are not prepared.

a reply to: Snarl

The vax was never supposed to eliminate, the fear-$$$$-producing 'supposed' virus.

There will continue to be a 'virus', spreading virally, only now : our government and Big-Pharma™ saviours will supposedly prevent us from getting too severe symptoms.
Well : that is as long as we get our regular booster shots every three months, and have all of our compliance apps up-to-date.

But just like any other business-model : once it's up and running, there will be a need to increase the bottom-line again.
So another virus, and series of vax jabs will be tacked-on.
Maybe.
Don't know.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: one4all

You realize that pretty much everything that sized has a lipid coating right? Do you know why they have lipid coatings? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not to shield from antibodies because proteins are the identifiers. How does this bacteria reproduce out of curiosity?

It doesnt matter how many other tings have a lipid fat coating.

It doesnt matter why other things end up with a lipid fat coating.

What matters is what happens inside our body and what matters is how you stop it from happening.

It doesnt matter how current or smart you think you are...anyone can read a Bible and learn all they need to know ....we really dont need all the bullspit and phoney Degrees and Research "experts" chasing paycheques.

If you really want to know the finite details dig in and research but buyer beware most of that research is tainted and manipulated.

a reply to: one4all

I research every day, so you basically don’t know and you enjoy spreading fear based on middle or high school biology.

There’s really only 3 ways to stop this.

You get sick, recover and enjoy immunity for 6 months to a few years depending on a few variables. Hoping you don’t have any scar tissue or other issues.

You get sick and die, unlikely with Covid but you won’t have to worry about immunity anymore.

You get vaccinated and pray 65 days was enough research time, before trials, so you don’t get permanent damage or killed and get immune. Most vaccines take 5-10 years to be declared safe for use in humans.

The only conspiracy here is a worldwide economic recession/depression, combined with a questionable pandemic in which governments and corporations are blatantly taking advantage for profit. That’s it.

If you want to see and research and learn about genes and proteins and how they interact. Go to UniProt.org and start plugging in genes, viruses, anything really, and you can see how they interact. Everything from nucleotide sequences to images to domains and research papers. It’s definitely worth the trip, even if you’re only curious.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: one4all

I research every day, so you basically don’t know and you enjoy spreading fear based on middle or high school biology.

There’s really only 3 ways to stop this.

You get sick, recover and enjoy immunity for 6 months to a few years depending on a few variables. Hoping you don’t have any scar tissue or other issues.

You get sick and die, unlikely with Covid but you won’t have to worry about immunity anymore.

You get vaccinated and pray 65 days was enough research time, before trials, so you don’t get permanent damage or killed and get immune. Most vaccines take 5-10 years to be declared safe for use in humans.

The only conspiracy here is a worldwide economic recession/depression, combined with a questionable pandemic in which governments and corporations are blatantly taking advantage for profit. That’s it.

If you want to see and research and learn about genes and proteins and how they interact. Go to UniProt.org and start plugging in genes, viruses, anything really, and you can see how they interact. Everything from nucleotide sequences to images to domains and research papers. It’s definitely worth the trip, even if you’re only curious.

Welll there you go,thats your Problem,see how easy it is to define CAUSALITY?...when you work with HONESTY....first thing you said that rings the Truth Bell for me....you Research Daily.....probably as a career....so there is the ingredient we needed most to make headway here.

Re-Search.
Search Again.

Reverse - Rewind - Research.

I spend my Prime Time SEARCHING....not being led in circles.

If you start SEARCHING instead of researching....things might speed up a little for you.

Researchers go back and review seeking redundant data to reinforce rhetoric reactive to their reality.

If you want to SEARCH and discover answers or causality instead of research and continue supporting the Generational cycling of bastardized redundant data.....then Google Search Tactical Dynamic Template....find your way back here and then we can work.

Yes there are 3 ways to end this....kill the bug in all 3 of its forms and sizes....bacterial - viral - fungal.

Spare me your immunity bullspit....its all lies.....you get the bug from the foodchain and by eating untreated foods....the bug lays dormant in you for a loooooong time...if unattended a LIFETIME.......

There is no immunity from the Covid-cold because its a living viral sized bacteria.....

There is no immunity from a bug you ingest.....every time you eat it you will get sick .... every time you kill it you do not have it.

a reply to: Snarl

There you go wasn't that easy? Remember now you have to get
back in here for your second dose. Oh sir no this doesn't mean
you can take off your mask. Oh and sir ... sir .. one more thing
you can still get the virus. Now WTF is going on? Unbelievable!

The crap hasn't even been tested!

originally posted by: butcherguy
The WHO changed the meaning of herd immunity recently to remove natural herd immunity and keep only vaccine accomplished herd immunity.
Now we are being told that a vaccine will not accomplish herd immunity???

We are being led down a path that I don't like.

Something about herd animals and chutes....

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I don’t think it was ever claimed that the vaccine would actually stop infection.

The vaccines are designed to assist the immune system in identifying the protein elements of the virus and attack and destroy this. Without the protein spikes, the virus cannot attach themselves and are then flushed out of the system naturally.

What they are uncertain about is whether the vaccine will prevent the infection from being passed on.

like the flu vaccine, people are led to believe taking this vaccine will prevent them from being infected or a carrier. Don’t pretend that’s not exactly what’s being held as the solution to covid. So having the vaccine wouldn’t do a thing if everyone was on a plane to a foreign country (or from)? They could all be vaccinated and go on and infect others? Our body has a 99.5+% success rate against covid your not making a good case we should take the vaccine...

a reply to: Rob808

It’s true, everything depended on herd immunity and with this one, kind of like with the flu, it’s just not going to work and the studies are showing that. Now the goal is to reduce severity of disease in patients, so this should change the target demographic and it doesn’t. Anyone can still have a severe reaction to the disease, shouldn’t that be their choice to roll the dice?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still killing thousands daily, mainly people with quality of life and health problems. Healthcare overload can still happen, I don’t think the vaccine came early enough to be honest. I also want to see how they are going to deliver these vaccines to third world nations, they have significant storage requirements.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

It's a ruse.

The government wants people to be obedient. That is all.

If you don't take Bill Gates' shot ... you're a problem in their eyes.