House approves increasing stimulus checks to $2,000 for Americans, THANK YOU President Trump!

a reply to: carewemust

That music video is kinda cool. I probably would have liked that group if I was still young like they are. Meanwhile...

i bet their in their 40's now, probably not doing all that dancing and have to turn autotune to full blast to sound like they did.

on topic, old mitch need to hit the bricks. he a snake in the grass bastard just like reid was.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Drucifer
That music video is kinda cool. I probably would have liked that group if I was still young like they are. Meanwhile...

Back on-topic.

THE LATEST (Tues 12.29.2020)

(CNN) Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced legislation Tuesday to combine two additional demands from President Donald Trump to an expansion of $2,000 direct stimulus payments, as part of the Covid-19 relief package, raising Democratic concern the pathway for expanded stimulus payments would soon be short-circuited.

The Kentucky Republican, shortly before adjourning the Senate on Tuesday afternoon, introduced a bill that would combine $2,000 direct payments with a repeal of the online liability protections known as Section 230 and the establishment of a commission to study voter fraud. The latter two issues have been significant drivers of Trump's ire in the wake of his general election loss -- the latter of which with zero evidence presented to this point.

While the move doesn't guarantee McConnell will bring the bill up for a vote, it provides a substantive option should time -- and the political winds -- press the chamber in that direction. It's also one that would be all but certain to fail to garner the votes for passage.

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York called the bill a "cynical gambit" and said it would serve as "a blatant attempt" to ensure the $2,000 direct payments were not signed into law.

But McConnell's move was crucial for several reasons in the final chaotic days of the 116th Congress.

With two politically endangered GOP senators just days away from runoff elections -- Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue of Georgia -- announcing their support for Trump's push for $2,000 checks, McConnell has found himself in a position he spends the vast majority of his time as Republican leader trying to avoid: Navigating a divided conference.

Republican Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Josh Hawley of Missouri are also behind the push to expand the payments, with Hawley playing a central role in pushing the issue to the forefront.

More at: www.cnn.com...

Meanwhile the Treasury Secretary says $600 deposits start going out tonight, and checks begin mailing tomorrow...by the tens of millions.

Source: www.foxbusiness.com...

McConnell is playing a dangerous game. By waiting, the Senate will need to change the bill to lower the stimulus deposits to $1,400, because the $600 deposits/checks are a done deal.

How could it be a "done deal?" I thought the bill had to be passed in both the house and senate, and that Mitch didn't even bring it up for a vote in the senate. So, how could it have been passed and made into a real law? Am I missing something, and if so, what?


TCB

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind
I think the 600 is a done deal

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

trump signed the first one and redlined items he wanted changed. this new one are the changes.

Starting tonight, those who have direct deposit set up with the IRS can start looking for their second stimulus payments, said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. "These payments may begin to arrive in some accounts by direct deposit as early as tonight and will continue into next week," Mnuchin tweeted Tuesday afternoon. Mnuchin said checks going out through the mail will start to go out on Wednesday. President Donald Trump signed the new COVID-19 relief bill that includes a second stimulus check for up to $600 per person on Sunday, and the IRS is on a tight schedule to send out this new round of direct payments, following rules that may result in some people having to wait weeks or even months to get paid.
Stimulus payments will begin to arrive 'tonight': When the IRS will send your second check

a reply to: carewemust

Yeah,prolly lower it to 1200 instead and say good enough.

originally posted by: Drucifer

In regards to charter schools, my wife is an education coordinator for a national charter school (75 schools in 13 districts across the US) It’s all about the bottom line, man. They’re main goal is getting new students. There’s more care in that than there is education. A lot of these parents are dirt poor and busting their asses to get their kids in a good school. I can’t begin to tell you how many times in the last 8 years that my wife has come home in tears because someone above her made a decision based on the bottom line instead of the education of the kids, or in most cases, actually, firing teachers/assistants/principals. It’s all politics and optics within that company and I’m assuming it’s not the only one like that.

Care is typically at the teacher level, do you find charter schools better over all than public schools especially in poor areas? One interesting point is not all national charter school chains are the same. In my business I see good companies and bad ones alike. Bad ones typically do not last forever, have tons of problems and unless they get better they can get swallowed up quickly, and public schools are not like this, good or bad they are here to stay and most in poor areas are not good.

The amount of shady sh*t she has witnessed is insane. For example- there’s a board that contributes to the schools, they did not like the CEO’s wife running things the way she was and wanted her gone, so she was let go, but then formed her own company that immediately was hired by the charter school to come in and restructure the way their schools work. So really, she’s still running things, but the board doesn’t know it’s her because they just see her employees names on the contracts.

Yep that can happen, but too many poor decisions can lead to reduction of profitability and growth, so there is something there that has direct impact where public school systems does really have that.

The amount of money wasted is f*cking INSANE. My wife also sets up an annual ‘principal’s institute’, which is when every principal comes in for training, what to expect of the next year, developments in education, etc. Normally this was done in a hotel that gave them an amazing deal, as they have to book out a bunch of conference rooms and a couple floors for these things. Her new boss decided, after they let go of 35 teachers in Florida for financial reasons, to hold the institute in an ocean-side hotel/spa that was 4x the amount of money, with hired DJ’s and catering coming in every night instead of using the hotel’s food. Her budget before he came in for this was around $125K, after he came on board, he bought the cost up to $400K. Thankfully, my wife went to HR about it and put a stop to that. Dude was going to blow multiple salaries in one week.

In the big scheme of things is that really a large amount of money? 10 years ago my company was more extravagant but they needed to tighten their belt to be competitive. This is what happens in the private sector. When we look at public schools about 20% of the budget goes to teachers and another 60% goes to "other" salaries. When they need to cut cost its the teachers that get cut and the class sizes get bigger.

So they’re just as corrupt as our government.

Maybe, but on a smaller scale. In the end if they offer smaller student to teacher ratios 20 or less to 1, not 35 to 1, better facilities and equipment, better learning environments without all the bad that leaks into public schools, more motivated teachers as their jobs depend on their performance and not tenure etc the student wins...

When we look at inner city schools we need to do something, because what is there already is not working has not worked for a very long time.

originally posted by: Charliebrowndog
a reply to: Xtrozero
Yes exactly. It doesn’t need to be abolished but brought “up to date” with the current processes and platforms. When it was written the technology now wasn’t even thought about.

It’s my opinion any legislation that involves technology should be required to be revisited in very 5 years or so because it changes so rapidly.

I just do not know the easier path of either get rid of it and start fresh or work to amend it as is. The wording in it now is horrible as you suggest it was written before technology today was available, and social media platforms have taken advantage of it.

a reply to: Xtrozero

It's funny how Socialism is only bad when it's not putting money in your pocket.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Trump as well as every damned politician is giving a man a fish and saying, "See how awesome we all are!"

While not letting us go fishing.

The problem is the shut downs...That is 100% Goverment created, so what do you do? Our Goverment has decided to make the cure worst than the disease and so I guess they need to own up to it, but it isn't pretty trying to get money to those truly in need. I have yet to see a single post of anyone on this site saying they actually need the money to eat and live as example.

I think more money to people out of work due to the pandemic and small business support for businesses shut down like paying the rent etc. But we will send the money to 200 million people still working who have not lost a penny in all this to include myself. In fact it has made my life cheaper, I'm saving $250 a month in gas on my cars, and not eating out etc...So I'm spending most likely $1000 less a month, refinanced my house to 2.7, not putting mileage on my cars, and not lost a penny in pay....

originally posted by: gortex

It's funny how Socialism is only bad when it's not putting money in your pocket.

No this is all bad anyway you look at it. Shutting down the country was the start. I tell you that you can not work, so I guess I need to feed you now...

BTW I have zero problem with layers of socialism, and I have zero problems paying for it too for those in need. Something like Obamacare was a bad bad deal... There is much better ways to get to the 20 million who actually needed it then throwing everyone in the mix who didn't need it or want it, as example.

I also have issues when full blown socialism takes over everything and I need to pay 60%+ of my pay to fuel it.

a reply to: Xtrozero

There is much better ways to get to the 20 million who actually needed it then throwing everyone in the mix who didn't need it or want it, as example.

Don't you think that applies to the stimulus too ?

originally posted by: gortex

Don't you think that applies to the stimulus too ?

Sure I even said so in a prior post, but we both know the Goverment is never efficient, so here is your latest lesson on what happens when the Government goes full socialism. It ends up not being good for just about anyone. Poor people are still poor, the middle class gets poorer and the rich are still rich on old money.

Its like the old Government cheese... Looks like cheese and says it is cheese, but it really doesn't taste or smell like cheese, but I guess it is cheese since the Goverment says it is...lol That is full blown socialism...

McConnell is suiciding the Republican party. He says this evening that he sees "no realistic path" to refunding Americans $2,000 of the taxes we've paid over the years.

www.foxnews.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
McConnell is suiciding the Republican party. He says this evening that he sees "no realistic path" to refunding Americans $2,000 of the taxes we've paid over the years.

www.foxnews.com...

"Sudden" and "Drastic" changes in powerful peoples' behavior usually indicates blackmail and threats 👹

Stop all taxes except those necessary for military. Shut the rest down. COVID and all.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Trump as well as every damned politician is giving a man a fish and saying, "See how awesome we all are!"

While not letting us go fishing.

The problem is the shut downs...That is 100% Goverment created, so what do you do? Our Goverment has decided to make the cure worst than the disease and so I guess they need to own up to it, but it isn't pretty trying to get money to those truly in need. I have yet to see a single post of anyone on this site saying they actually need the money to eat and live as example.

I think more money to people out of work due to the pandemic and small business support for businesses shut down like paying the rent etc. But we will send the money to 200 million people still working who have not lost a penny in all this to include myself. In fact it has made my life cheaper, I'm saving $250 a month in gas on my cars, and not eating out etc...So I'm spending most likely $1000 less a month, refinanced my house to 2.7, not putting mileage on my cars, and not lost a penny in pay....

My wife the other day was behind a lady with her 4 yo and infant in the grocery line, the lady had a few needed items, diapers and a few food items, not junk food. Her debit card declined, the lady was emotionally distraught. My wife ended up picking up the tab.

Plenty of people out there in need, you are correct, there has got to be a better way of helping out people in need than throwing a bunch of money to those who don’t desperately need it for sustenance.

The republican senate kills the 2k.

One wonders why Americans always vote for these republicans who never cease to deny them

One day they will destroy this country if they haven't already.

Bush the last republican president left destruction in his wake and now another republican president Trump leaves destruction in his wake.

IF there is a next time they will finish America for sure if they haven't already

a reply to: 38181

It's only temporary. For people not asking for welfare but a devastating pandemic that leaves them bereft through no fault of their own

president Trump just threw out the $2,000 so they would settle on $1,200 but it didn't work.

Now the Senate will have to deal with it.

originally posted by: carewemust
McConnell is suiciding the Republican party. He says this evening that he sees "no realistic path" to refunding Americans $2,000 of the taxes we've paid over the years.

www.foxnews.com...

You guys are SO gullible. McConnell didn't 'suicide' the GOP. Trump did it. You people thinking Trump wanted to give Americans $2,000 are so dense. He doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself. He waited till the last minute to throw this wrench into the machine as a big FU to the Republicans and Mitch because they won't sign-on to his election temper tantrum and he KNEW they wouldn't pass this. He set the GOP up. Just like he has all of you.