My Experience With COVID: I don’t believe it’s a naturally occurring virus.

a reply to: [post=25652531]Assassin82[/

A doctor I heard interviewed says that covid19 produces symptoms very similar to a altitude sickness, which would explain your shortness of breath and fatigue, ventilators make it worse apparently and were used in error.

For many of the people who contracted the virus whose symptoms aren’t so bad, this is because the virus has reverted to its more natural less potent state while in the environment for a period of time. So yes The suggests it was engineered.

Asymtomatic people can only be so for a short period of time before symptoms kick in. Unlike what the 2 week period the MSM has falsely claimed.

Being a novel virus it can also produce auto immune disorders in some people by their immune systems going into overdrive.

I listen to many podcasts and can’t remember which one this interview was on or provide a link so make of it what you will.

A nasty flu like I’ve had will give you much similar symptoms, extreme fatigue, can’t get out of bed for a week for more than short periods, everything tastes like crap, no appetite, can’t smell, headaches and fevers. Not good but for most people covid19 is no worse than this, which makes me think the virus reverting to some less dangerous while circulating in the environment is most likely the case.

Gates and co, have been banging on about a coming pandemic for a long time now and I help but think that along with the WEF and other shady organisations they have used this to bring in plans long since layed down, as part of the coming “great reset” and new 4th industrial revolution, the resource based economy etc..

You can never underestimate the Chinese.

Wearing a mask is like wearing a communist flag.

The chinese can sit back and say look because of us everyone is wearing out mask.

a reply to: Assassin82

I feel for ya bro.
I got off easy, albeit with some guilt.
30 of us got it back in May from someone at work.
The company put over 250 of us in hotels as a precaution and to not bring it home to our families.

One of my coworkers died from it.
But myself, I had very mild symptoms.
Some shortness of breath, some extra coughs to just clear my chest, and at night I slept propped up with a pillow.
But I wasn’t “sick” as you would expect.
I sat in my hotel room, talking on the phone with my wife during the days and playing video games.
I binge watched game of thrones, the alien series and the terminator series.
All the while smoking cigarettes in my hotel room because the health unit said we cannot step out of the room.
I got paid double time for two weeks to Basically Stay-cation, with all meals and snacks paid for.

But I also lost a buddy.
It effected him a lot differently.
I’ve had colds that were so much more worse.
I got off extremely lucky.
While others, this virus literally destroys.

I’m grateful and all but what a stark contrast that virus has with Different people.

Sorry I haven’t been able to reply. It was a struggle to get through all the Christmas family stuff with any energy yesterday. I had moments where I wanted to reply but couldn’t muster up the focus to get through a reply.

For those who offered well wishes, thank you!

I see the subject is still torn. Which I understand that not everyone is going to buy the idea that it’s man made. I see some who are adamant that it’s not and offer some solid arguments, and others who believe, like me, that it is man made. As I said in the OP, with this I’m going off of my own anecdotal information gathering where my mind and body are telling me this isn’t a natural virus.

It’s like my immune system is going spastic cause it doesn’t know what to do (I have a very healthy immune system and no underlying health conditions other than 39-year-old aches and pains). One day it fixes one thing, then it shifts its focus to something else. The next say an old thing starts leaking and something new pops up. Day after that it’s trying to keep a couple leaks from getting worse and everything seems fine. Then something from 2 weeks ago comes back x10.

I worked in the healthcare industry via the military for 15 years so I know what I’m talking about. I’ve treated some very sick people and studied a decent amount about such things (from a treatment and patient care perspective). None of it prepared me for the variance of symptoms and their rapid fluctuations in severity. That’s not to say their aren’t worse naturally occurring viruses out their, of course there are.

But there’s a feeling myself and many others get where when you listen to your body as it tries to fight this thing you just know it’s not natural. Like when you’re in a dream and you start to realize that you’re in a dream and suddenly the physics of your dream world turn chaotic.

I will say I have no doubt that certain entities are using this virus to their advantage through fear and control. Can’t let a good opportunity to shake people down go to waste. Here in the states, I have no doubt hospitals are misreporting information so they get that extra gubment cheezzz. Hard for people to trust anything about this virus when it’s so mismanaged and abused.

DP

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: network dude
[Do you even listen to what other people say, or do you just imagine what you think they would say?

I'll bite. What did I say that was incorrect?

most here either think it doesn't exist, or that it's less dangerous than the flu or common cold. You'll be called a liar, etc..

I don't know anyone here who thinks it "doesn't exist" and from what I've seen, it's been referenced to a really bad flu season. So wrong with most of what you said. But rather than tell us what we think, why not ask? Then you could be informed insisted of foolish.

Your comment goes right along with the idiocy that is the "covid denier". Like a climate denier. Projection of the uninformed.

a reply to: Assassin82

My point to you when I replied is not to downplay how ill it made you at all, but to say that just because it made you very very ill is no proof that it is or is not man-made.

There are other ways to know.

In fact, even if it did escape from the Wuhan lab is no sure indication of whether or not it was man-made. They may have been doing research on it, yes, but whether or not they had actually done any genetic tinkering on it? Who knows. If smallpox breaks out in the world again, it's because it escaped from someone's lab or is released, but that doesn't mean anyone tinkers with its genes on the way out.

So ... making someone very, very ill = no proof of genetic tinkering

Escape from lab = no sure proof of genetic tinkering

For me, the jury on this one being man-made is still out.

Assassin82 tells a great story about his brutal experience with the infection.

His story reminds me of accounts I've heard from friends during the last 12 months. Many thought they had the flu, but soon realized the experience was somehow different from previous flu infections.

Luc Montagnier thinks it is a man-made virus, and so do many others. Circumstantial evidence exists showing it was engineered at UNC Chapel Hill, with the cooperation of the Chinese and Anthony Fauci.

Mainstream media refuses to talk about that, showing once again the truth that the most effective form of propaganda is by omission.

originally posted by: Salander
Assassin82 tells a great story about his brutal experience with the infection.

His story reminds me of accounts I've heard from friends during the last 12 months. Many thought they had the flu, but soon realized the experience was somehow different from previous flu infections.

Luc Montagnier thinks it is a man-made virus, and so do many others. Circumstantial evidence exists showing it was engineered at UNC Chapel Hill, with the cooperation of the Chinese and Anthony Fauci.

Mainstream media refuses to talk about that, showing once again the truth that the most effective form of propaganda is by omission.

Speaking of "omission" where's your link to back up your conspiracy. Who is Luc Montagnier?

btaim....I love the smell of irony in the morning!!

a reply to: olaru12

Good morning to the uninformed and credulous!! en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Salander

IMO, you'd play with this. It's like having a time bomb go off in your lungs and it killed much more effectively than COVID does.

a reply to: ketsuko


Many experts say the way it has evolved is impossible to happen naturally. It's like it skipped millenia's of mutations. Only possible with human intervention, aka....lab made.

originally posted by: jidnum
a reply to: ketsuko


Many experts say the way it has evolved is impossible to happen naturally. It's like it skipped millenia's of mutations. Only possible with human intervention, aka....lab made.

True, but many other experts have analyzed it said they see no real signs of direct tampering too.

The problem these days is that we have experts who say all kinds of things. That's in and of itself not a bad thing, science is debate after all which is good, but that fact that we have a debate says that things are inconclusive.

The other thing is what do you consider lab made? It's one thing to be working with it in the lab and breeding it. It's another thing to be artificially inserting and deleting genes too. Which one are we talking about? Working with it through lab generations is not necessarily an unnatural process any more than when we breed different breeds of dog or cat or cow.

I have firmly believed what the OP has said is true since last spring.

It is man-made, in China, in their bio-weapons facility in Wuhan.

Another weird fact that leads me to believe it is man-made:
The people least affected (die the least) are Oriental Asians and Caucasians

The people most affected (die the most)
#1 American Indians (die at nearly 4 times the rate of Oriental Asians and Caucasians
#2 Black Americans (die at nearly 3.5 times the rate of Oriental Asians and Caucasians)
#3 Hispanics (die at nearly 3.4 times the rate or Oriental Asians and Caucasians)
NO, I don't think it has to do with economic status, I think it was genetically engineered.

I firmly believe it was mainly genetically engineered to kill off the most problematic people for socialist and communist nations, especially China:
China has an enormous problem with massive numbers of elderly and too few young adults to support and care for them due to the generations long one child policy.
Also, communist countries and socialist countries are bled financially dry by the elderly and infirm.
The #1 death rate for the virus is those who cost socialist and communist nations the most money and give little back to society - what socialists and communists call the "useless eaters"

Why it was also genetically engineered to kill people of color (remember Oriental Asians are generally fair skinned, sometimes very fair skinned) - xenophobia is rampant in China - the Chinese loathe and despise humans who are not Chinese; xenophobia and a feeling that the Chinese are superior to all other races and cultures is a hallmark of Chinese culture. (Don't try and tell me this isn't true I spent 4 years of my life living in Oriental Asian countries - it is absolutely true)

I do think the virus was engineered to:
#1 kill the elderly and inform leaving the younger healthy people relatively unscathed, allowing for collateral damage (remember China and communist/socialist societies are collectivist, individual deaths are meaningless to the collective health so collateral damage is perfectly ok for a socialist/communist society)
#2 kill the infirm with multiple health problems to get rid of useless eaters
#3 kill those whose genes give them darker (non-Asian like) skin coloring

Unfortunately the OP was part of the socialist/communist definition of acceptable collateral damage with his horrible experience, since governmentaly socialist/communist nations (i.e. Chinese etc.) care nothing for the individual only the collective.

a reply to: The2Billies

If you're looking at US stats to determine that, you need to screen out the comorbidities in those populations and account for them.

All of those populations you think are disproportionately targeted are also more likely to have comorbidities too and more of them. More comorbidities lead to higher chances of adverse health outcomes and death from COVID.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: The2Billies

If you're looking at US stats to determine that, you need to screen out the comorbidities in those populations and account for them.

All of those populations you think are disproportionately targeted are also more likely to have comorbidities too and more of them. More comorbidities lead to higher chances of adverse health outcomes and death from COVID.

I know alot of people say that.

However, hearing the lament of Doctors that most of their patients are of color. Also, knowing the Chinese culture as I do. I honestly do think that was part of the design of the virus. It may be just to horrible for people in the US to contemplate, but I firmly believe it is true. Even if those of us who think all individuals are worthwhile and to be cherished regardless of race or culture, find it impossible to even acknowledge that entire societies and even governments can be that ruthlessly racist - they absolutely can - especially when they are socialist/communist. Racism is really really really bad in China, I can't even begin to tell you how bad.

a reply to: Assassin82

I appreciate your first hand account, and if it can do this to a healthy middle-aged man what does it do to those with other health issues or seniors, for example if you already have serious lung issues I would think it would be a death sentence. Even those that were depressed and drifted towards suicide before covid would have this amplified.

Two of my workmates who I am in very close contact with got very sick many weeks before testing started, they had all the symptoms of Covid, I felt myself fighting something as well, but it never got a hold of me.

I believe this has been spreading around North America since December 2019, it just was thought of as a really bad cold or flu, people weren't being tested back then.

Here is the conspiracy part, is it a type of eugenics plan designed to cull the weak and old from our population.
Survival of the youngest and fittest put into action to cull the population.
Because that seems to be who is going down, if you have a robust immunity you will beat this.
IF that is the case who will the vaccine actually help ?

a reply to: The2Billies

I'm well aware that Chinese society and culture are racist. Most Asian cultures are.

But that doesn't change what I said. They'd axe white folks as quickly as the rest if they could.

You are talking about a culture that has a serious imbalance of men to women because they are just that misogynist that being only allowed to have one child, they will either abort or abandon the females in favor of having a male just that often. If they do that to their own children, then of course what wouldn't they do to total strangers of other ethnicities?

a reply to: LordAhriman
How old was he?
Didn’t talk much about what he experienced.

Gain of function, no brainer, see what Chicago Law Professor Boyle says about this although he seems to hesitate to say 3D it was deliberately designed. He has been on Alex Jones show again, wrote international treaty on bioweapons decades ago, knows more than average Joe Sixpack. He was ignored in the media after 9/11 when he wrote about anthrax being from a government lab. a reply to: jidnum