I keep hearing about Reparations

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Spider879

Yeah I don't remember skyscrapers being built in ancient times. Sub-Saharan Africa can't afford that, nor build it. Obama alone gave Africa hundreds of billions of our hard earned money.

Also, in ancient times, Africans lived in mud huts. Egyptians built the ancient structures there.

Unless you're talking about South Africa.

Did you bother reading what I said or did you just skimmed through what You thought I said ,
modern infrastructure is from Europeans.
And yes urbanized ancient and medieval Africans built in stone and adobe structures, and so did the Ancient Egyptians btw.
How much more does America doled out to places like Israel, is Israel not a first world economy??
And no, they actually are self financing their infrastructure

Tanzania has already released part of the funds for the projects -- railway, aircraft modernisation and energy projects.
www.theeastafrican.co.ke...

Ghana much the same using revenue from it's oil resource, so is Angola.
foreign investors are welcomed off course,
NEWS

Meet Adebayo Ogunlesi, The Nigerian Who Bought 3 UK Airports Within 6 Years
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Does the above mean the U.K is broke and wholly dependent on rich Nigerians or is it just a part of global market economy.

originally posted by: Spider879
If Europe or America is so great why are these non Africans flocking to Africa.

Why aren't African-Americans doing the same thing?

originally posted by: Spider879
It's because of your not so hidden hostility towards them, that is the problem, your newly arrived Nigerian is flushed with the idea of an idealized version of America, so they are less suspecting of negative attempt to hinder them which is both bad and good.

You're too funny. You don't know me. You don't have a clue how I treat people.

I think you meant to say that those Nigerians aren't Paranoid and don't hate White People.

a reply to: CryHavoc

 Why aren't African-Americans doing the same thing?

I post on this some pgs back,
some are indeed doing so just that
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Go here^^ and scroll down.

You're too funny. You don't know me. You don't have a clue how I treat people.

No but just deduced from your seemingly hostility towards AAs by your post.
No I meant what I said , they simply don't know it until they experienced it.

originally posted by: Mailman
I grew up during the golden age of hip hop culture.

If there is one thing I can tell you to be true,

Hip hop culture are some capitalism loving mfrs.

Hip hop loves to earn money quick and easy.

Hip hop will mention police brutality issues, but the most used topic is black on black violence.
It rarely mentions racial problems other than slavery itself.

We noticed an uprising of many groups during george Floyd...but I just want to point out how strongly hip hop culture has always embraced capitalism and free market.

BLM is a paradox that can't explain itself.

There's really no explanation needed.

If BLM is paradoxical in nature because of what you think hip hop represents then you're making the mistake that plenty make - that black people are some sort or monolith.
That black people cannot be individuals.

Oh, the privilege of being able to be an individual.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

"Revisionist history".... Meanwhile you've been trained to believe today's history books. Learn what "Revisionist" means.

Trained to believe the history books? Opposed what? YouTube? Lol.

Once again, your party is not the party of Lincoln. Nothing you watch on YouTube will change that historical fact.

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Mailman
I grew up during the golden age of hip hop culture.

If there is one thing I can tell you to be true,

Hip hop culture are some capitalism loving mfrs.

Hip hop loves to earn money quick and easy.

Hip hop will mention police brutality issues, but the most used topic is black on black violence.
It rarely mentions racial problems other than slavery itself.

We noticed an uprising of many groups during george Floyd...but I just want to point out how strongly hip hop culture has always embraced capitalism and free market.

BLM is a paradox that can't explain itself.

There's really no explanation needed.

If BLM is paradoxical in nature because of what you think hip hop represents then you're making the mistake that plenty make - that black people are some sort or monolith.
That black people cannot be individuals.

Oh, the privilege of being able to be an individual.

Perhaps never listened to conscious rap or groups like
Arrested Development
Chuck D
Kendrick Lamar
Immortal Technique especially Dance with the Devil
youtu.be...
Klik^^ here for a reminder.
And so many others
Dead Pres. Etc
Then there are other types of music
Like Reggae, Roots & Culture.
Gangsta has it appeal but that's not all that's out there.

a reply to: Spider879

Yeah, and I have my own theories as to why it's only the negative rap / gangster rap that's so widely played everywhere all the time.

originally posted by: Spider879
No but just deduced from your seemingly hostility towards AAs by your post.
No I meant what I said , they simply don't know it until they experienced it.

How about you point all that 'hostility' out for me and everybody else?

If you can't, well then we'll know that you're pretending it exists. And we'll know to treat you like a Fruitcake.

I get a kick out of you thinking I'm the one with 'hostility', when were talking about people that hate White People.

I'm only responding to Hostility. It's very disconcerting that you don't know the difference.

originally posted by: CryHavoc

originally posted by: Spider879
No but just deduced from your seemingly hostility towards AAs by your post.
No I meant what I said , they simply don't know it until they experienced it.

How about you point all that 'hostility' out for me and everybody else?

If you can't, well then we'll know that you're pretending it exists. And we'll know to treat you like a Fruitcake.

I get a kick out of you thinking I'm the one with 'hostility', when were talking about people that hate White People.

I'm only responding to Hostility. It's very disconcerting that you don't know the difference.

Don't have to re-read your own post.

originally posted by: Spider879
Don't have to re-read your own post.

That was the response I expected from you.

originally posted by: CryHavoc

originally posted by: Spider879
Don't have to re-read your own post.

That was the response I expected from you.

Naaw you didn't , you expected me to play follow Willie the wisp..
It's folk lore Google it...

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: Bloodworth
But how do you satisfy an entitled group who have been told that everything wrong in their lives is because of racism?

They cant make it on their own. they need guidance. handouts and special treatment.

If they act out, nothing to see. They have an excuse

I guess the same way you satisfy slave owners with reparations, yes like I said earlier slaver owners got Reparations.
Institutions like Banks continued to profit off slavery illegally after it was banned in non Slave states.
The hidden links between slavery and Wall Street

www.bbc.com...

Some of the largest insurance firms in the US - New York Life, AIG and Aetna - sold policies that insured slave owners would be compensated if the slaves they owned were injured or killed.

Georgetown Students Vote to Pay Reparations

The measure calls for the university to start with a fee of $27.20 per semester in the fall of 2020, "in honor of the 272 people sold by Georgetown," referring to the slaves sold by Jesuits to finance the university in its early days. The resolution says that proceeds from the fund "will be allocated for charitable purposes directly benefiting the descendants of the GU272 and other persons once enslaved by the Maryland Jesuits -- with special consideration given to causes and proposals directly benefiting those descendants still residing in proud and underprivileged communities."
www.insidehighered.com...

Let me remained you good people,
Britain paid slave owning descendants right up to 2015
France had Haiti paid for loss of Slave and property for over a hundred years
The United States gave Reparations to their Slave owners early on.
But that 40 acres and mule got trashed immediately.

Folks think anti poverty measures was for AAs ..no it was not, it included poor Blk folks but not exclusive to them.

The native Americans got reparations in the form of casinos.

The African American community look to be getting reparations in the form of weed.

There are some Democrats that want to legalize marijuana and give the business over to them

Pretty funny

originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: Bloodworth
But how do you satisfy an entitled group who have been told that everything wrong in their lives is because of racism?

They cant make it on their own. they need guidance. handouts and special treatment.

If they act out, nothing to see. They have an excuse

I guess the same way you satisfy slave owners with reparations, yes like I said earlier slaver owners got Reparations.
Institutions like Banks continued to profit off slavery illegally after it was banned in non Slave states.
The hidden links between slavery and Wall Street

www.bbc.com...

Some of the largest insurance firms in the US - New York Life, AIG and Aetna - sold policies that insured slave owners would be compensated if the slaves they owned were injured or killed.

Georgetown Students Vote to Pay Reparations

The measure calls for the university to start with a fee of $27.20 per semester in the fall of 2020, "in honor of the 272 people sold by Georgetown," referring to the slaves sold by Jesuits to finance the university in its early days. The resolution says that proceeds from the fund "will be allocated for charitable purposes directly benefiting the descendants of the GU272 and other persons once enslaved by the Maryland Jesuits -- with special consideration given to causes and proposals directly benefiting those descendants still residing in proud and underprivileged communities."
www.insidehighered.com...

Let me remained you good people,
Britain paid slave owning descendants right up to 2015
France had Haiti paid for loss of Slave and property for over a hundred years
The United States gave Reparations to their Slave owners early on.
But that 40 acres and mule got trashed immediately.

Folks think anti poverty measures was for AAs ..no it was not, it included poor Blk folks but not exclusive to them.

The native Americans got reparations in the form of casinos.

The African American community look to be getting reparations in the form of weed.

There are some Democrats that want to legalize marijuana and give the business over to them

Pretty funny

Yeah except that's not reparations, that's a business chance especially to those who were incarcerated heavily for selling, but punished in numbers way above other groups, this same mischaracterized info about anti- poverty measures in the past , not meant for just AAs but all those includes the poor among them.
Unlike your boy.

Former House Speaker and Marijuana Foe John Boehner Set to Make Millions From Cannabis Legalization
www.newsweek.com...

CryHavoc:

No one is responsible for the crimes of their Ancestors.

Agreed.

If their Ancestors didn't want to be here and were brought here against their will, then a part of Reparations should be to send their Descendants back. I think that's fair.

Utterly disagree!

Descendants of those brought to America against their will and placed into slavery, were born in America, that makes them American, with as much right as you to live in America. Unless you yourself are a native Indian, your ancestors were immigrants. I think your toxic hypocrisy with its hidden undertones of actual racism is worse than Covid-19, because the virus only kills a small percentage of the country, whereas your poisonous ideology kills the entire country if not argued with.

You stagger incredulity!

a reply to: elysiumfire

Here's the thing though:

Right now, they're also the ones marching in the streets looking to tear down everything the country is too, so I'd say that's a strong argument for those same people hating the country.

I take nothing away from that. I get that people hate the country, and that's not a racial position. But instead of the country they hate paying them a ransom, why not instead move to a country where their ancestors came from on the dime of the country they hate for what it did to their ancestors against their will? Of course, never mind that often it was other Africans who started that whole against their will thing off by capturing and selling them to begin with. History is often inconvenient in that manner.

The other thing people have yet to consider is that paying out a ransom won't fix anything. Money isn't a solution to problems.

In most cases, the problems these people live are caused by more than just money or a lack of it, and once they spend the check, we'll be right back where we started.

a reply to: elysiumfire

I don't think he was arguing against their right to live in the US. At least I didn't see it that way. If it were not for being taken as slaves they and their children would have lived their lives in their home land. Is it that wrong to set things back on their original track for those willing to make the journey?

The modern demands for reparations are also toxic and racist. The number of people who can positively be verified as descendants of slaves is low. The rest are all economic opportunists looking for free stuff and vilifying white people in the process.

My experience and observation, and I suspect many others if they were honest about it, is that black people are not looking for equality or justifiable compensation. They want revenge - period. Revenge against people who did nothing to them for things not done to them in the first place. Revenge against people many of whom suffered just as they did and for the same reasons. That is the true nature of toxicity in this whole affair.

originally posted by: ketsuko
The other thing people have yet to consider is that paying out a ransom won't fix anything. Money isn't a solution to problems.

In most cases, the problems these people live are caused by more than just money or a lack of it, and once they spend the check, we'll be right back where we started.

Did anyone asked Japanese Americans or other groups how they spent their reparation checks or if it mattered ???

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: ketsuko
The other thing people have yet to consider is that paying out a ransom won't fix anything. Money isn't a solution to problems.

In most cases, the problems these people live are caused by more than just money or a lack of it, and once they spend the check, we'll be right back where we started.

Did anyone asked Japanese Americans or other groups how they spent their reparation checks or if it mattered ???

At least they could be asked because they had actually been wronged to begin with. You keep missing the point that the Japanese Americans who received that money actually were physically removed and relocated into camps.

I suppose I could get behind the idea that any living chattel slaves from the antebellum South could be paid their 40 acres and a mule.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: ketsuko
The other thing people have yet to consider is that paying out a ransom won't fix anything. Money isn't a solution to problems.

In most cases, the problems these people live are caused by more than just money or a lack of it, and once they spend the check, we'll be right back where we started.

Did anyone asked Japanese Americans or other groups how they spent their reparation checks or if it mattered ???

At least they could be asked because they had actually been wronged to begin with. You keep missing the point that the Japanese Americans who received that money actually were physically removed and relocated into camps.

I suppose I could get behind the idea that any living chattel slaves from the antebellum South could be paid their 40 acres and a mule.

Yet I've posted stuff on post slavery which very few seemed to grasp or even addressed.