Has anyone considered that maybe Trump didn’t want to win?

Well, my pub is closing...again. So I feel the need to vent on someone! lol Isn't that what ATS is lately...venting?



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a reply to: lakenheath24

True dat.

Pubs are closed here also unless you order a meal right now.

I miss a game a Pool and a pint myself.

I got my local to put on NFL games Sundays after the last Football match. They used to leave, then they started to stay and watch those with me. lol

Maybe next year.




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a reply to: TKDRL

Trump also brought out the swampers into the sun and showed just how despicable and warped his biggest detractors are. The left's rank and file have to have second thoughts about where their side is headed with the parade of freaks and nasties and crazies that are leading them down the path to bedlam.
Poor people will look at the elitist uber wealthy backing globalist pawns like Usurper Joe and idealistic liberals will see their once respected icons going full on fascist mode trampling human rights. They can steal elections, they can't steal support.

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If these vaccines do what they say on the tin hopefully by the middle of 2021 we should be back to some kind of semblance of normality, if normal ever was a thing that is.

I think we should all be proud, as too the way communities have come together, supported each other and the elderly.

For all the problems associated with COVID 19, I've actually seen a glimmer of hope for humanity in the way we have reacted, came together and managed to emphasize with one another.

Turns out all Humans are not complete and utter bastards to one another after all.

Maybe we do have a future as a race after all.

Seems to me we don't really do half bad under pressure.

a reply to: andy06shake

The British have always been at their best when their backs are against the wall.
We have a resilience and refusal to accept defeat that is second to none.

Of course similar traits can be found in other nationalities.....but I honestly believe its not as widespread and engrained in their respective national psyches as it is here.

Of course there are many that would disagree....especially those who have fallen for the woke self-hate conditioning and despise anything and everything 'British'.

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Of course there are many that would disagree....especially those who have fallen for the woke self-hate conditioning and despise anything and everything 'British'.

I love the British People. I loved visiting the UK. Seriously, you guys are the BEST.
I felt like the British People loved us Americans too. Sometimes things get lost on msg boards, or in political
arguments, but in person, our two countries have been allies much longer than we have been enemies.

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I tend to agree.

I was talking to a wee old lady on the bus a few days back, must have been in her late 80s, 2 big bags of shopping, spitballing all this COVID 19 debacle, and she was saying that she not seen people come together and try and help one another out like this since the Second World War.

I think our empire has quite a lot to do with some of the overt self-hate conditioning doing the rounds all the same.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: putnam6

Show me a politician that's not a criminal?

As to knowing history, your nation is still a baby, I'm sure you will accumulate the stuff eventually, just like pubes.

Probably right i don't know much about American history, but the world is a big place, a lot bigger than the USA.

Where did I say politicians weren't criminal?

I said he isn't going to jail.

You were the one comparing him to Al Capone.

and the last half of your last line, talk about a non-sequitur.

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Politicians and criminals, tomayto, tomahto.

The only difference being who gets caught and who is, or appears to be, above the law.

Al Capone at least had some street smarts, Trump not so much.

If you cant grasp the concept that's your own lookout, but they are both very bad men in their own right imho.

They will come after Trump once he's out, that's pretty much guaranteed.

Anyhoo dogs to walk, things to do, you have yourself a pleasant reminder to the day. x

It’s going to be harder for those who needed a constant scapegoat to lose trump. What will they do when he’s not around to project all their fear towards? I suppose biden will keep covid a thing for his single term (if he makes it that far)

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Funny you don’t say the same about joe biden when you cast the net equating politicians to criminals. Joe biden the career politician (criminal). It’s like you are turning a blind eye.

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a reply to: Rob808

How so?

Joe Biden is probably as much a criminal as all the rest of the politicians with their fingers in every pie.

Lesser of two evils all the same where Forest Trumps concerned.

As to a blind eye, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king, something for you to consider.

The game is rigged Rob808, always has been, always will be, and that's democracy in spades.

That being said, i don't imagine you wish to see the alternative, because without pretty illusory notions such as freedom and security, us humans dont function very well.

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Pelosi impeaching, the attack against mail in votes before the election and the election fraud lawsuits afterwards. They are trying their best to make it look as real as possible.

The conflict between right wing and left wing is as
choreographed as pro wrestling.

The lawsuits give the game away. At the hearings and online there is plenty of evidence, observers being harassed or kicked out, ballots (which should all have a chain of custody) being delivered late at night. Dead people, out of state people, and non-residential addresses voting. It should all be easy to prove. But when they get to court suddenly there is no evidence:

Publicly, the Trump campaign has been claiming there was extensive vote fraud and law-breaking. Specifically with respect to Wisconsin, President Trump tweeted on November 28: “The Wisconsin recount is not about finding mistakes in the count, it is about finding people who have voted illegally . . . We have found many illegal votes. Stay tuned!” The campaign further maintained that the recount it demanded would “show somewhere around 100,000 illegal ballots in the two counties that Biden carried” (i.e., Milwaukee and Dane).

This is in addition to the innumerable times the president and his surrogates have asserted that they were being systematically prevented from proving massive fraud and illegality. The courts and state officials, we’ve been told, have invoked legal technicalities, such as the supposed lack of standing to sue, in order to stop the campaign from calling witnesses and introducing voluminous documentary evidence.

So what happened in Wisconsin?

Judge Ludwig denied the state’s claims that the campaign lacked standing. Instead, he gave the campaign the hearing they asked for — the opportunity to call witnesses and submit damning exhibits. Yet, when it got down to brass tacks, the morning of the hearing, it turned out there was no actual disagreement between the Trump team and Wisconsin officials about the pertinent facts of the case. The president’s counsel basically said: Never mind, we don’t need to present all our proof . . . we’ll just stipulate to all the relevant facts and argue legal principles.

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Trump, an internationally famous New York property Tycoon. And 2001 NY Mayor Gulianni, Mr WTC7 bunker. Is it really possible that these two are fighting AGAINST a giant conspiracy of globalist millionaires?


He's in on the conspiracy, he pretends that he isn't and that he's some kind of outsider. He did exactly the same thing with 9/11:

Trump says if he is elected: "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center."

"It wasn't the Iraqis," he explained. "You may find it's the Saudis."

"They have papers in there that are very secret," he also said, referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. "But you will find out."

"https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/17/
trump_you_will_find_out_who_really_knocked_down_the_world_trade
_center_secret_papers_may_blame_saudis.html"


I'm still Waiting Donald...

If you believe the Donald is anti-establishment, you have been fooled. If you believe CNNBBCABCMSNBC News you have been fooled. It's all fake, just like wrestling.

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