Breaking - MI judge orders the release of the audit from Antrim county

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: Gryphon66

Can you answer my question in my last post?

I've tried offering you fact-based, reasoned arguments before, giving you the benefit of the doubt when you have claimed not to be another brainless partisan, and when I take the time to do so, I get it thrown back in my face because it doesn't comport with what you've been sopping up from your preferred vector of the corporate media.

So, I won't spend much time on it, but I will honor your somewhat polite request the last time.

Your claim that "Democrats are covering it up" is absurd. These alleged proofs of frauds, switched votes, stuffed ballots, etc. have been heard in our judicial system by Republican appointed and Trump appointed judges and ALL of them virtually except one or two have dismissed the claims as false, fake, irrelevant.

You lose a great deal of points by claiming that "the Dems" are the great enemy. If that's truly what you believe, you're really out of any consideration for understanding what's actually "going on."

The Trump, et. al. lawsuits have contained such amateurish, poorly executed, nonsensical "evidence' that even TRUMP APPOINTED JUDGES have had to dismiss it. Brian Kemp who is the most obsequious Trump toady in this State (and that's saying something) had to certify the Election results because he knew the facts.

The Supreme Court of the United States was very clear that they were united in finding that there were no merits in the Texas case brought. Alito thought the SC should have heard it, at which point, he believed it should be dismissed. Thomas too.

I keep railing on evidence of these extraordinary claims for one basic reason: that's the only thing that would make any difference! Actual evidence, not contrived, constructed, hapless, garbage based on Youtube videos ...

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that our elections at certainly the national level (and probably elsewhere) are nothing more than pablum for the masses. I know that if voting made a difference, the ones actually in control wouldn't allow it to happen.

I play along with the dumb-show of two-party politics sometimes because it amuses me. The arguments are sooo stupid it's fun to point out why they're so bad and HOPEFULLY spark an interest in one or two readers to start thinking on their own.

In the end, I know that the Dog and Pony Show of Politics, Government, Religion, Media etc. is all pure maya. Do you?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah, being that they're automatically deducted from my earnings and when I trade issues a capital gains statement is generated if there are any. Why?

You dont owe income tax until tax day and you dont have to let them deduct it automatically...

At what point (if ever) would you refuse to continue financially supportimg the government? How much corruption and evil does there have to be before you do something more than vote 3rd party etc.

Have you ever done anything against government corruption, evil etc. that puts your own life, liberty etc. at risk?

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah, being that they're automatically deducted from my earnings and when I trade issues a capital gains statement is generated if there are any. Why?

You dont owe income tax until tax day and you dont have to let them deduct it automatically...

At what point (if ever) would you refuse to continue financially supportimg the government? How much corruption and evil does there have to be before you do something more than vote 3rd party etc.

FFS.

Just stop.

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777
You dont owe income tax until tax day and you dont have to let them deduct it automatically...

Guess you never owned a business, you pay QBT. Also, I claim the minimum deductions so come tax day I basically owe very little or am owed very little. But I guess thanks for the free tax tips?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

I claim the minimum deductions so come tax day I basically owe very little or am owed very little. But I guess thanks for the free tax tips?

The point is you can refuse to pay what you owe as an act of non-violent civil disobedience. When (if ever) would you refuse to continue financially supporting the government?

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777
The point is you can refuse to pay what you owe as an act of non-violent civil disobedience.

Uh, okay. I'm not even sure why you think I feel I should be doing this.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Your claim that "Democrats are covering it up" is absurd. These alleged proofs of frauds, switched votes, stuffed ballots, etc. have been heard in our judicial system by Republican appointed and Trump appointed judges and ALL of them virtually except one or two have dismissed the claims as false, fake, irrelevant.

No, they’re not absurd at all and no, these cases are not being heard, just like you stated. Many judges are being complicit, left and right and they’re not hearing the actual arguments or seeing any type of forensic investigations. I also don’t think Trump’s legal team is presenting the cases to the fullest but that’s another thread. There’s a lot of abnormal anomalies in the election that are not being investigated and are in fact being blocked by dem officials from coming forth and access to. They’re blocking a lot of access to equipment and data as well as removing whatever evidence they can that could support Trump’s cases.

Why are they trying to disallow forensic data analysts experts from the lawsuits? Isn’t that what you’d want if you had nothing to hide and wanted to prove you’ve done nothing wrong?


Again, I ask why they’re doing that if they have nothing to hide?

Your opinion that they’re absurd is not an answer as to why and what they are covering up.

a reply to: mtnshredder

... and there it is.

Best.

PS: Abnormal anomalies is redundant again.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Uh, okay. I'm not even sure why you think I feel I should be doing this.

I didnt say you should...

I asked when (if ever) you would?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: mtnshredder

... and there it is.

Best.

Yep, just what I thought, you can’t objectively answer the question. Not the first time.

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777
I didnt say you should...

I asked when (if ever) you would?

Stop paying my taxes? Probably when I decided I'd like to go to prison.

a reply to: Xcathdra

The forensic audit conducted in Georgia found the same thing. Like Michigan, the authorities there try to bury it.

Attorney general Barr said when evidence of fraud on a widespread basis or systemic basis is presented to the doj, they will investigate it.

These Dominion systems used in 37 states meet his criteria.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Stop paying my taxes? Probably when I decided I'd like to go to prison.

So no matter how evil and corrupt your government got, you would just keep sending them your money?

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777
So no matter how evil and corrupt your government got, you would just keep sending them your money?

It hasn't gotten to the point where I'm willing to do that, at this point I think it's more inefficient and inept. The issue is lobbying, not rampant corruption, not that I'm saying there aren't corrupt people at times.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


It hasn't gotten to the point where I'm willing to do that, at this point I think it's more inefficient and inept. The issue is lobbying, not rampant corruption, not that I'm saying there aren't corrupt people at times.

Our government has literally killed millions of innocent people in unjuste wars and via unjust sanctions all over the world. I would hate to see "NOW its bad enough that i wont finance them."

a reply to: Ringsofsaturn777

And which two parties support that foreign policy? Hmmmmmmm.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


And which two parties support that foreign policy? Hmmmmmmm.

And voting third party has prevented exactly none of it.. totally ineffective "solution" as you called it.. it does have the advantage of zero risk/cost to you though.

Wouldn't the audit linked in the OP be...

wait for it..

Evidence?

originally posted by: Ringsofsaturn777
And voting third party has prevented exactly none of it..

Because not enough people have ditched the paradigm.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Because not enough people have ditched the paradigm.

Ok..

So anyway.. when (if ever) would you refuse to finance your government? How evil and corrupt does it have to get? Killong millions of innocents isnt bad enough, what if they killed your own family? Would you keep sending them.your money?