Forgiveness

Forgiveness is not holding someone personally accountable for thier actions.

it's not saying it's all right, it's not saying that they can be part of your life, it's saying that you do not do anything to them personally.

that's it.







[Edited on 14-7-2003 by Fury]

I think that if one person seeks forgiveness, that he is submissive to he who was offended AND is truely remorseful of his actions or deeds, then forgiveness should be given. That forgiveness is a sign of maturity and wisdom.

If a person seeks forgiveness only to appease the offended, with no real remorse in their heart, then forgiveness might be given, but at the discretion of the offended. This shows the offender that the victim is morally superior.

Forgiveness is a kind of power and grace. Remember that scene from Schindler's List, when the Camp Kommandant has the little boy clean his bath tub? The Kommandant knew he had no grace with the Jews and that his only power over them was via the gun, that is why he shot the little boy.

The power to forgive an aggregious sin (and thus supress or eliminate your own rage and hatred of the offender - a very hard thing to do) indicates great power of control. It is the very heart of the Christian faith.

It certainly isn't easy and I admire people who can do it.

Forgiveness?

Strong word in some term's can you forgive someone for saying something? Depends how strong a meaning it was, then there's the question of "forgot"!

Yer right "forgive & forget", I used to forgive my 1st hubby, till the next time, now i cant "forget". Every day I awake with the same pain's, mental and phsycial, I have too live with this the rest of my life, I'll never give him forgiveness (even though he's now dead and i can't let "sleeping dogs ly).

But then that's me, everyone has their own reason's to forgive someone, if its something they've done, it might be able to be mended, but sometime's you can say things to people that can be "well out of order" and you can't just forgive them! (there the one's with the problem's not you)

"Easliy broken, harder to mend"

Anyone can say they're sorry, but meaning it is another matter, some thing's or best not said at all.



blackwidow

forgiveness.

its an awful powerful thing to be able to forgive someone who has wronged you.

i have forgiven people for VERY serious things done to me. and other times i will never forgive certain people or forgive people for doing certain things.

in my mind its dependent upon the situation. stealing from me is unforgivable however i have forgiven others for doing far worse to me. of course the situations are different and should be treated as such.

lying to me or stealing from me is unforgivable. period. full stop. end of discussion. however i have found the ability to forgive someone whos lies had me locked up and had me facing some serious charges. my life was altered forever because of this. even though the truth came to light the damage was done and it haunted me years later. i understand why they lied, they were ignorant and unaware of how their actions effect others. i have no choice but to forgive them. some of you might disagree but it was my choice to forgive them. they didnt know things were going to go as far as they did.

anyone can hold a grudge, anyone can brood about being wronged, but not everyone has the capacity to forgive and let go what was done to them. its simply not an easy thing to do. of course i think holding onto negativity is hard to do as i cant do it for long, i have to let it go eventually. but thats just me.

I've had somebody do VERY serious things to me, and NO, NO ,NO they will never ever be forgiven by me I would be discussed if they ever even asked for forgiveness.


Sorry when on one for a minute there.

No one has greater respect than I for Mag's sterling efforts to drum up trade; but if we address this topic let us first address the substance of Pope's splendid pentameter:
"To err is human, to forgive divine."
and, secondly, recall that if you can recall having forgiven, you did not, in truth, forgive.

Originally posted by Estragon
No one has greater respect than I for Mag's sterling efforts to drum up trade; but if we address this topic let us first address the substance of Pope's splendid pentameter:
"To err is human, to forgive divine."
and, secondly, recall that if you can recall having forgiven, you did not, in truth, forgive.

Absolutely, couldn't agree more.... Now can we have that in English please.