OK Folks, This is how this next month is going down Get ready!

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: CriticalStinker

No you won't.

We'll see.

You didn't take very good odds on our gentlemens bet though.

It seems your take is Trump will remain in power with the help of the military.

My prediction is that doesn't happen.

I promise to eat crow should my prediction faceplant. Seeing as we'll all have an incredible amount of new problems on our hands, me admitting to being wrong to a stranger on the internet won't be the biggest gut punch imaginable.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: Veryolduser

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

I believe wholeheartedly in this principle, that's why I'm a libertarian. However my main point here is that it comes down to the law, if the courts fail to agree that substantial fraud occurred then how can we be 100% certain that fraud actually occurred? You can't overthrow the result based on a maybe, it has to happen through a legitimate process which makes a civil war less likely to occur. I value liberty but I don't take war and death lightly. I'm certainly not an expert on the legal system but from what I understand it will probably go to the supreme court and Trump has a good chance of winning there. Recall the Cardinal Pell case in Australia, he was found guilty by the lower courts and locked up, everyone believed he was guilty for months. Then it went to the Supreme Court and they reversed the decision. This isn't over yet regardless of what the MSM says, everyone should know by now they live in their own little fantasy world.

I remember when I was a Ron Paul fan also I addressed the hypocritical nature in my my post.

The problem with Libertarians are they ignore corporate entities like robber barons and allow them to run roughshod over your movement! Businesses should be able to be run anyway they want “big tech that’s great proceeds to censor and ban libertarian supporters” it’s a great theory of governance however it’s the equivalent of the Gadsden snake with a ball Choker in its mouth saying tread on me daddy for corporations!

Expecting the courts that have been attacking trump for 4 years on everything he tried to do! Yeah! Do you trust the FBI how well did they handle the Hillary case or the trump hoax or Biden’s laptop “yes I know it’s different than the courts and it’s federal” that should tell you something is very wrong within our government. I don’t trust the government and I sure all hell don’t trust the courts in liberal cities or rino run states sorry

originally posted by: CharlesT

Seems like a more secure voting system should be a bipartisan issue, people in government should want a system they have full control over instead of private corporations.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Sweetheart, crooks and thieves don't play by our civilized rules. Power is their driving force. Not God or even mortal humanity.
Shush with the seems like fairyland mentality.

Everything includeing politics driven by corporate capitalism and profit. American as apple pie... Would you prefer a socialist approach, Sweetheart?

Nothing is going to change Capitalism in America. Not Biden, not trump, not any politicians. DC marches to Wall Street beat, get over it.
You're the one in fairyland amigo!~! It's astonishing how naive the right wing is....

What is really funny to me are Bernie bro’s pushing for Biden! You don’t fully understand just how big of an issue this is! Do you think Hillary really won the nomination? They used dominion voting machines, hey libertarians you think that rino mitt actually beat Ron Paul? This has been in use since 2008. Think about all the house seats and senate seats!

This issue is way more massive and a can of worms than just this election! We could have had a Ron Paul presidency! Hell we could of had a Bernie Sanders presidency! Hillary picked trump to run against and made sure he got the nomination so she could destroy him thinking she didn’t even need to cheat. Trump won!

Think about that! Trump even being president is invalidated if dominion is proven to be fraudulent! I would vote for him again. Do people really believe Biden who was doing worse then most of the other dems in the primaries actually managed to win against Bernie Sanders? Hell amy klobuchar was a better candidate than Biden!

a reply to: CharlesT
The movie will end this month. Credits roll in January.

a reply to: olaru12

You just went way, way off the rail with this.

Would you prefer a socialist approach, Sweetheart?

You just did a 180 on yourself here. You're spinning.

originally posted by: Veryolduser
What is really funny to me are Bernie bro’s pushing for Biden! You don’t fully understand just how big of an issue this is! Do you think Hillary really won the nomination? They used dominion voting machines, hey libertarians you think that rino mitt actually beat Ron Paul? This has been in use since 2008. Think about all the house seats and senate seats!

This right here is indicative of how a large portion of Americans think due to their stupid election system and 2 party choice... Bernie lost, fair or otherwise, the Democrates are the next closest party ideologically to Bernie, therefore WHY NOT throw in your support for the democrats if your a Bernie supporter after he lose the nominations? (and if i was American id be a HUGE Bernie supporter) not doing so results in the Democrat vote being split radically in number and a whole lot of votes for Bernie going to waste since there is little chance of write ins or what ever they call them being big enough to get Bernie in over the Democrate candidate or the Republican candidate.

Bernie supporting the Democrates after loosing, or asking his supporters to support the Democrates candidate isnt some loopy thing... its the most logical thing to do, not some 'how could he and his supporters swap to the Democrates! they are so politically dishonest Reeee'.

Bernie knew/knows he'd never make it as an independent in the American system, and doing so would also hurt his closest potential allies the Democrates so he runs as a candidate for them, then in a lose throws his support behind them, and asks his supporters to do like wise (they majority of them do so). Given the 2 party partisan BS of American politics, anything that appears politically logical tends to be viewed as turn coat, traitorous or the like.

You guys really have to change your system... honestly.

If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by. - Sun Tzu

This is what is occurring. The media and social media are trying sooooo hard not to report on anything concrete and instead want to talk about old white politicians being appointed, a dog in the white house and now a broken foot. Contiune to state all lawsuits are blocked when they are not. Demonizing anyone who is opposing the results.

AG Barr saying there is no fraud.
DOJ saying no fraud.
FBI saying no fraud.
Because these are local and state issues not Federal. However, if you the media hears something like this it is plastered everywhere. Like AG Barr saying he has not seen anything...but can we believe that?

Head of Cyber Division Chris Krebs was fired. The head DOJ official to investigate the voting crimes quit.

They have the evidence but it is not something that you can just say Ta-Da! and it is shown. 100's of thousands of bad ballots in multiple states. Multiple witnesses. This is not 3 guys in one state saying they 'saw' something.

Whatever the outcome the cat is out of the bag and it shows that your vote does not count while the Progressives argue that no vote should be not counted because of integrity....BS

This, sorry to say, is far from over.

a reply to: matafuchs

They have the evidence but it is not something that you can just say Ta-Da! and it is shown. 100's of thousands of bad ballots in multiple states. Multiple witnesses. This is not 3 guys in one state saying they 'saw' something.

If this is true, then why did Barr, trumps hand picked AG bail on an apparent slam dunk, leading to an even bigger position after the election is overturned?

It's time to show the evidence or just stfu.

The trap for Joe Biden has been set.

mobile.twitter.com...

Kaboom!

a reply to: CharlesT

“If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

-David Frum

Thank you for the OP. More than anything, I’m happy that Conservatives are now being honest about who they really are.

Meh fantasies in regards to reality. The reality should have set in on the onset of covid-19. Personally at this point I don’t care, the only thing this year has trully taught me and I sorely mean it in a matter of a fact way is as follows, our society of the USA, has some serious mental issues, in addition to that it is very lazy, and also more worried about what others think about them on Social media, stimulated by stars, flags, and atta boys.

My advice to those that believe they understand what is happening or know things others do not or are enlightened at this point folks it’s best to start getting prepared for the coming future, those of you who are aware should already be doing this.

Life is not fair, Congratulations to the democrats and the CCP, this operation went off without a hitch, millions of people voted that’s awesome. Hopefully the world will become a better place in the next 4 yrs, I am very concerned about our future, I don’t think the American society is INTELLIGENT enough to understand what is going on, and frankly that’s not my problem, and I am not going to attempt to educate a society that is more concerned about getting stars, flags, and adda boys vs facts, and truths.

SIA.

Let me set the stage for you. On the National Mall set up a big ass guillotine. Lead the traders, in public, across the televised stage, for their final dance. Just like the French Revolution of 1789. Let’s start with the Clintons, and hope that unlike the French, it doesn’t get out of hand.

a reply to: olaru12

Because it is not a Federal Issue at the time but a state issue. States are in charge of their elections. The DOJ stepping in would be at the request of the state governments right?

So, Barr saying he has not seen anything is a nice soundbite but really does not mean much. DOJ controls the FBI, Marshalls, ATF and DEA. Not DHS. INS used to be part of the DOJ till it went to DHS.

Besides, DHS is not a part of the DOJ and is who would be investigating and controlling this because of their CyberDivision. CISA is a part of DHS and was created in 2018 by....Donald Trump. Krebs and Ware, the director and assistant director are now gone. Wonder why?

See how it all fits together?

a reply to: CharlesT

Then Trump crosses the Rubicon as a modern day Julius Caesar, keep in mind the Senate was powerless to stop him when he went into Rome with the 13th Legion, even though it was illegal.....was he right to do it ?
A true Game Of Thrones scenario, when you play, you either win or die.
This time it might be either win or go to jail for Biden or Trump and they know it.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: CharlesT
You wouldn't admit truth if it slapped you across the face.

Show it to me then! Something besides a Twitter video or meme. Without evidence, it just gives the image of you all wanting America to become North Korea, just because you don't want this president to leave office.

Why? You'd ignore it, obviously, since public hearings have already taken place in PA, AZ, and MI showing you evidence.

That is a straight out lie and you should know it. That's not what's going on at all. Lol at you willing to give up your rights and support fascism based on something you believe. a reply to: CharlesT

Republicans (or Trump supporters) are calling for guillotines to be set up to kill those they disagree with ...

... wait, didn't they claim that the Democrats were going to do this a few years ago?

You can't make this stuff up.

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