Maybe we are in a civil war

a reply to: ntech

Think about this for a minute.

So you guys over there, you have a woman by the name of Anne Sacoolas who, by all accounts was involved in the death of a British teenager outside a US base in the UK and fled the country to avoid prosecution claiming diplomatic immunity.

The UK has asked for her extradition. The US said no.

So, using your logic in accepting what you are being fed, the British SAS would be perfectly within their rights to visit the US and extract this woman in a military operation with no repercussions and it wouldn't end up on any news channels anywhere.

No international incident, no huge diplomatic fall out, just a clandestine raid by UK special forces in the USA.

Do you, honestly, think that could happen, or would happen?

If the answer is no, then why on earth are you promoting such bull#?

I can't believe people actually believe this happened. I bet this ties into the same people that were talking about how the ballots were tracked by satellite because they have some super secret Nano technology printed on them.

Come the F on people. I swear Peter Schiff has switched sides and taken over so many ATS accounts.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
I can't believe people actually believe this happened. I bet this ties into the same people that were talking about how the ballots were tracked by satellite because they have some super secret Nano technology printed on them.

Come the F on people. I swear Peter Schiff has switched sides and taken over so many ATS accounts.

Dude, if people can believe in Q they can believe in anything at this point.

a reply to: neformore
Kool aid, throw in some acute desperation..hell, how about the 5 stages of grief!

a reply to: neformore

I only looked and found 2 sources. 1 from the left and one from the right. I was not making a judgement on the content found.

One denial and one confirmation that it did happen.

But it does appear the USA Today story is trying to cover it up.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

It wasn't a raid on anyone that was a German national nor technically even their sovereign territory. It was a raid by military intelligence on a CIA asset that apparently holds information that the CIA does not want anyone else to know for whatever reason.

When you listen to the interview it will make more sense.

The important thing to me is that this shows that there is an actual hot war going on inside of our own government.

I am a bit skeptical of the claim, but I am more skeptical of our "media" as not living under a rock for the past 35 or so years has taught me that they cannot be trusted with anything. They are just reading the script handed to them and in my estimation that script comes from our 3 letter agencies.

originally posted by: Fools
It wasn't a raid on anyone that was a German national nor technically even their sovereign territory.

Every square inch of German soil is their sovereign territory.

And before you try to claim embassies or consulates I suggest you go to the State Department website and see what they say about it.

a reply to: projectvxn

I've stated here before that the CIA exists in the capacity to overthrow and prop up governments around the globe.

Why is it a stretch that they wouldn't do it domestically?

If there is friction between our 3 letter agencies and the armed forces, then yes. This will be all sorts of bad.

a reply to: Fools

U.S. Army Special Forces, possibly the famed Delta Force, raided the CIA-run server farm in Frankfurt, Germany.

Let me guess. They arrived by taxi.

a reply to: alldaylong

Lol...

Hi, we got a package here for a mr....uhmmm...CIA asset.



Peace

a reply to: Fools

but I am more skeptical of our "media" as not living under a rock for the past 35 or so years has taught me that they cannot be trusted with anything. They are just reading the script handed to them and in my estimation that script comes from our 3 letter agencies.

I whole heartedly agree with that. The media by its current design is horribly flawed. Either they're malice or incompetent. Many of their sources are establishment government employees, often hiding behind anonymity. By design, the "watchdog" of the government is spoonfed what to say under the guise of "sources close to".

But, with it being so obvious our media system is flawed, and that belief being widely held now, many are taking advantage of that by claiming whatever they want knowing the media doesn't have the authority to say its wrong.

The civil war I'm confident to say is being waged right now is corporate media trying to maintain authority of public thought, and the opposition using the mistrust in that narrative to present whatever they want. As usual, I tend to think the truth is somewhere in between, or completely detached from both.

A war for public opinion seems evidently underway, and waging for some time.

Maybe your real IP address is somewhere near St. Peterborough / Russia

Why would this be reported in the media?

Why are any of you putting stock in any media?

Enjoy that filter feed yo 🤭

Angelina Markle is an EU socialist. Hell bent on destroying her nation and retaining all power. So I can see how the German government could keep that quiet over there.

The people though. Not so much. I dont think Germany has huge restrictions on thier internet but I'm an American so I dont know. So there should be a least one person there. Someone who heard gun fire and instead of calling the authorities would load a video of some kind somewhere.

If this is true then we are in trouble and dont know it. Military against CIA. This CIA might not be CIA. Could be a Finders group gone rogue or something.

The lack of people reporting such a raid. Us vs Us. That kind of story would be one of a kind.

originally posted by: Arnie123
Why would this be reported in the media?

Why wouldn't the German media be reporting a raid by a foreign power in their country?

a reply to: Fools

Lt General Thomas McInerney

In 2004, he claimed without evidence that with the aid of a Russian Special Forces team with GRU, Saddam had transported weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) to Syria and the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon for safekeeping

In a May 2018 interview with Charles Payne on Fox News, McInerney asserted that torture had "worked on" John McCain and "That's why they call him 'Songbird John,"referencing an unverified claim made against McCain during the Republican primary in South Carolina in 2000.

Payne later apologized to McCain and his family for the remark. Afterward, Fox News announced that McInerney would never appear on Fox News or Fox Business again.

en.wikipedia.org...

This bloke needs psychiatric help.

We are way too fat and lazy.

Matter of fact, they wouldn’t need an army.

They could just walk in from the South.

They would quickly overload our infrastructure.

Oh wait, that is next year.

a reply to: alldaylong

Not sure about needing help, he needs to be sectioned or whatever the equivalent is over there.

Talk about the ravings of a madman!

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Fools

What's the source on a US raid in Germany?

Im hard pressed to believe we conducted a clandestine raid on a sovergn ally without it being talked about.

It's not too hard to believe. Trump can't be bought or entrapped in Child sex games like the Clinton's, Obama and Biden have been.

They have been fighting and spying on Trump before he was even elected. Germany holds the CIAs johnson. Brennan and Clapper hate Trump. Merkel and her Stazis do as well.

The CIA shooters are all former special forces but the CIA teaches them to shoot even better. I would love to go train in that class. I could see it being a nasty fight but the CIA shooters would give up after realizing who it was they were having a shootout with.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yup, if that's what he's actually claiming then that's what I'm saying.

Smith-Mundt? Does that apply/extend to retired military officers? Or does the Lt General have a new position we are not informed of? Care to expand on your thoughts?

I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around these claims. Sure, a (retired) Lt General is making the claim, which gives it some credence... but then the obvious question is why? Why is he making these claims public?

And that's just the very very teeny tiny tip of the iceberg of questions I have. And that's without my tinfoil hat on!

Very curious.