Should the US Split

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: JAGStorm

Just my opinion from an outsider (what would I Know right?)... But, I honestly think you’ll find that all this nonsense will quickly calm down, once Trump isn’t in the mix stirring the pot.

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: HalWesten
You would give liberals two of our three ports? Nope. They can have the north-west and the north-east, screw'em on the rest.

Texas,florida,SC. How is that for the red states of america?

LA, Long Beach and NYC are too big to lose. They make up roughly 47% of all shipping. That's not including Washington, Oakland CA and Norfolk. That's over 65% total on the coasts.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: JAGStorm

Just my opinion from an outsider (what would I Know right?)... But, I honestly think you’ll find that all this nonsense will quickly calm down, once Trump isn’t in the mix stirring the pot.

You're right, it's just your highly uninformed opinion. Foreign relations under Biden will be scary. Buckle up sweetheart, your ride is about to get very rough.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I hope not.

The 'sides' should seek to work together for the good of all citizens, rather than suppressing opposing views.

... as if the country and the union actually meant something.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: JAGStorm

Just my opinion from an outsider (what would I Know right?)... But, I honestly think you’ll find that all this nonsense will quickly calm down, once Trump isn’t in the mix stirring the pot.

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

Well, I think we’ll find out who the s# stirrer actually was soon enough.

Come January 20th when Biden’s inaugurated and all this constant tension and drama comes to an end.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JAGStorm

I hope not.

The 'sides' should seek to work together for the good of all citizens, rather than suppressing opposing views.

... as if the country and the union actually meant something.

Democrats have been planning our extinction for seventy years, it's time to give them part of what they want. Unless of course they are willing to live under our Constitution like the rest of us happily do.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: JAGStorm

Just my opinion from an outsider (what would I Know right?)... But, I honestly think you’ll find that all this nonsense will quickly calm down, once Trump isn’t in the mix stirring the pot.

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

Well, I think we’ll find out who the s# stirrer actually was soon enough.

Come January 20th when Biden’s inaugurated and all this constant tension and drama comes to an end.

*shrugs*

I've been laughing at the buyers remorse from the left since the election.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JAGStorm

I hope not.

The 'sides' should seek to work together for the good of all citizens, rather than suppressing opposing views.

... as if the country and the union actually meant something.

If America meant so much to the left, then why do they need to "Fundamentally Transform" it?

America should not negotiate with terrorists.

The left, by their own actions the last 4 years at least, have ended up fitting that definition.

So no... there will be no "working together."

We learned what that actually means to the left a long time ago.

Think like us or we will beat you, burn down your business, cancel you, doxx you.

Just shut up and obey.

That's just not going to work...

Bu it is going to be fun watching them try and fail rather miserably.

America is not New Zealand.

So I understand why you don't understand.

a reply to: DBCowboy

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

I'm pretty middle of the road, and I honestly think it was both sides.

Are we finally all throwing California into the ocean?

a reply to: JAGStorm

By definition the left is "progressive," which means it is always, always, ALWAYS seeking to fiddle around with the fundamentals. The right just wants to leave things pretty much as they are until the left pulls too far too fast; then the right becomes "reactionary" or "revanchist."

The left is the heavyset girl at the junior prom who drags the skinny pimply guy (the right) onto the dancefloor kicking and screeching. You could say the ugly scene that ensues is both parties' fault, but if Princess Plus-size had just left Mr. Scrawny McBadbreath by the punchbowl to begin with, the tragicomedy would not have happened.

a reply to: Never Despise

Without the Pudgy Princess we'd all be living like Puritans....

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DBCowboy

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

I'm pretty middle of the road, and I honestly think it was both sides.

Point out the Trump supporters burning, looting and I'll apologize.

We need to split from the abusive gov that is making up this dumbass intentional political division.
Political theater.
..4 more years of rigging...4 more years!!
What a waste of our lives.
Corporate sellout and market rigging insider traders playing a game with everyone.
The only way out, in my mind is to create a new currency and tell them what we think their worth, fix the laws and limit their growth so we never have the situation were in now.
Where they just pit society against itself to maintain their growth.
Until we fix the scummy politicians/system, they would just work within each halve to separate those groups.
...they'd just split it into 4 different groups.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Never Despise

Without the Pudgy Princess we'd all be living like Puritans....

True, but constant change can be as destructive as constant stasis.

You got to know when to hold em and know when to fold em...

a reply to: Never Despise

True, but constant change can be as destructive as constant stasis.

You got to know when to hold em and know when to fold em...

The problem is that for a lot of people change is so difficult/painful.
They always assume the worst, and never look at the good.

The gov is like those couples everyone knows where they always use the other spouse as an excuse.
You go ask the other one and they do the same thing.
Lol

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DBCowboy

It was you leftists that stirred the sh#t.

Don't pretend otherwise.

I'm pretty middle of the road, and I honestly think it was both sides.

Point out the Trump supporters burning, looting and I'll apologize.

In Madison Wisconsin, when riots first started two young girls broke a bunch of windows. They were Trump
supporters. I'll try to find a link later, but I wouldn't make that up. I've read other too.

Also, yes, it is mostly the left burning, looting and rioting, I wouldn't argue with that. I would ask why.., and goes back
to my OP, maybe the differences are too much.

I also wouldn't argue that the some on the right embrace racist ideology. Maybe that was the final straw...

originally posted by: Mandroid7
The gov is like those couples everyone knows where they always use the other spouse as an excuse.
You go ask the other one and they do the same thing.
Lol

They are all the same...
I've said this for years and people don't believe me. Trump and Biden are probably friends. Biden, Trump & the Clintons are probably all friends. They are probably all laughing at us...

a reply to: alldaylong

Nice ... those are some seriously astute observations, and IMHO, true to the bone.

America ... the " United States " ... is kind of like a co-dependent marriage, meaning: one that won't ever be 'together' all the way, but that won't likely ever split apart either, because the strife is part of the love.

We are doomed to each others' company over here, me fears!

We might fight over it, get into nasty brawls, even do civil war II, but at the end I think we are just doomed to need to live together, for better, or for worse.