How did the Fall affect all of us, instead of only 'Adam and Eve'...?

originally posted by: Flavian

originally posted by: iammrhappy86
a reply to: noonebutme

The Devil never imposed his actions unto anyone.

He only ever showed other paths, options.

Man is to blame for his own descent into corruption.

But if Jesus died for our sins then surely it is only correct and polite to sin? Otherwise, what was the point?

There are those who at all cost would attempt to refrain from Sin; such an act is honorable, yet futile.

There are those who give in entirely to Sin and live as they please with little to no concern for their impact on others; such an act is deplorable equally futile.

Both are destined to repeat their experience until they learn.


Sin should be examined, explored, played with, but maintained in a certain state of balance, so as to always be aware of our impact on others.

To Sin is to Live.

How would You Live?

originally posted by: iammrhappy86

originally posted by: Flavian

originally posted by: iammrhappy86
a reply to: noonebutme

The Devil never imposed his actions unto anyone.

He only ever showed other paths, options.

Man is to blame for his own descent into corruption.

But if Jesus died for our sins then surely it is only correct and polite to sin? Otherwise, what was the point?

There are those who at all cost would attempt to refrain from Sin; such an act is honorable, yet futile.

There are those who give in entirely to Sin and live as they please with little to no concern for their impact on others; such an act is deplorable equally futile.

Both are destined to repeat their experience until they learn.


Sin should be examined, explored, played with, but maintained in a certain state of balance, so as to always be aware of our impact on others.

To Sin is to Live.

How would You Live?

You believe that you live your life!

When really there is just life.
The belief in good and bad is simply an idea.....a labelling of a happening.

Life is happening.......

The belief that you did wrong (or someone did wrong) is the sin.

This is a beautiful talk about the illusion of good and bad.

It is eating from the tree of knowledge of good and bad which banishes you from paradise.......

We were tricked with knowledge. We did not need it.

a reply to: TheSkunk
'We' does not matter.......only you suffer from knowledge so......
Stop believing knowledge......simply see and hear what is.
Here and now is all there is......just notice that wording/labelling is occuring and realise that thoughts do not know.
Stories occur.

But right here and right now.......what is happening?

originally posted by: TheSkunk
We were tricked with knowledge. We did not need it.

This post is about the past......'were' and 'did' are past tense.
Forget time.......it is a story ........ stories happen now.
Now is forgotten about because stories can only speak about time.....what happened or what will happen.
But now is happening......always.

originally posted by: iammrhappy86


How would You Live?

In all honesty, i try to always do the right thing. It isn't a religious thing, more of an awkward, stumbling, polite British Gent thing. Which isn't to say that there is anything wrong with religious practice or belief, just that, to me, it makes sense to try live in harmony with those around you.

Sin is fine. Rudeness and nastiness are not.

a reply to: Flavian
Is there harmony within?
Or is there, what appears to be two, conflicting voices?

So if Adam and Eve screwed me over because of their sin, I'll just kick their ass in the afterlife.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Adam and Eve did not screw you over!
There is no you to be separate from what is happening.

The story of Adam and Eve is about believing stories..........(the fork tongued serpent is thoughts and language).
If stories are believed then paradise is lost.
Seeking for paradise somewhere, some when other (in time and space) happens......it is not somewhere or some when else......there is only ever what is occuring.

Paradise is here now.

There is nowhere else.

What is IS!!

Life is sensual......it is not really made of words

a reply to: Itisnowagain

We matters a lot.