MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth

originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: HalWesten

Yeah but Dr. Shiva is claiming total fatherhood of e-mail when he basically just added elements to an existing creation and even those layers have dubious claims

Then the biggest difference is Shiva is being a narcissist where Fender was one of the most humble people on the planet.

Oh yeah,..cuz its your team this time?

Maybe peeps need to suck it up and go team US as opposed to team D or R cuz guess what....neither gives a damnnabout you buddy.



a reply to: LookingAtMars

a reply to: Doctor Smith

The Voting Machines should be a main concern for both sides.

There is no way to verify if they have been altered to switch votes, other than the Images of Ballots which are either immediately deleted, or inaccessible by the Public.

The code should be Open Source...

There is no way to verify an election with these machines....

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Where is it?

With the lawyers and soon to be with the courts, would be my guess.

There are a few videos on ATS that seem to show massive voter fraud has occurred. It could all be smoke, I don't think so.

I have seen how the political establishment has been acting these last five years. I have no doubt they would do whatever was necessary to make sure Trump lost the election.

Let's play nice.......

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Dude...its soooo frustrating. Dems and Repubs hate us all....til vote time.


Until a powerful, legit third party is formed....
You know the saying...there is myside, yourside....and then the truth.

We just need some goddamn truth. But peeps to scared to vote for it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
With the lawyers...

So far every instance of claimed fraud has been tossed.

...and soon to be with the courts, would be my guess.

Soon? Time's running out. Why wait when you have such overwhelming and convincing proof? Why, for instance are they not inviting the hoaxer in the video to come testify?

There are a few videos on ATS that seem to show massive voter fraud has occurred.

No, they're misrepresenting things like the hoaxer in the video is doing.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
It looks like this analysis is probably flawed (see video).

I watched this guy's video, he obviously understands statistical data analysis and how to speak about it in context.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Dude...its soooo frustrating. Dems and Repubs hate us all....til vote time.


Until a powerful, legit third party is formed....
You know the saying...there is myside, yourside....and then the truth.

We just need some goddamn truth. But peeps to scared to vote for it.

No, they keep voting to get kicked in the teeth or in the nuts every four years.

Is it? What year did it start and whom did it affect?
Did the DOJ make any arrests?
Please provide specifics. I genuinely want to know. And I do NOT accept wiki or twitter as sources.


a reply to: Brotherman

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I wonder if they will televise it when he accepts that million dollar prize money?

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Is it? What year did it start and whom did it affect?
Did the DOJ make any arrests?
Please provide specifics. I genuinely want to know. And I do NOT accept wiki or twitter as sources.


a reply to: Brotherman

I am saying that enough people do not have confidence in the system and that should be self apparent that something needs to change to satisfy all parties idea of transparent and fair. I see it very clearly that confidence in the current system has waned. Do you disagree with this notion?

Thanks for the comment here. I have a PhD in adult education and we all have pretty extensive knowledge in statistics. Just because his degree isn’t in mathematics doesn’t disqualify his expertise. It’s the scientific method that we all apply to and we test these with sophisticated models. If some country bumpkin like myself can create new knowledge with high levels of predictability, I have no doubts this guy is probably pretty skilled in this arena and the statistical skill set is probably pretty darn high.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: brianrook
It’s the scientific method...

Except he isn't using that, he's making it up wholesale to fit a narrative.

Here's your ultimate proof, why isn't anyone using this information in court? Is it because they'd get laughed out of the place?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
With the lawyers...

So far every instance of claimed fraud has been tossed.

...and soon to be with the courts, would be my guess.

Soon? Time's running out. Why wait when you have such overwhelming and convincing proof? Why, for instance are they not inviting the hoaxer in the video to come testify?

There are a few videos on ATS that seem to show massive voter fraud has occurred.

No, they're misrepresenting things like the hoaxer in the video is doing.

We will have to wait and see.

You usually don't share the good evidence.

Sometimes they do share evidence and even file cases they know will not win, as a distraction to the other sides legal team.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
You usually don't share the good evidence.

Actually you're legally required to in a court case, it's called 'discovery'.

This isn't television where some prosecutor plays gotcha with a key piece of incriminating evidence that the defense team wasn't aware of, they know exactly what you know.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Actually you're legally required to in a court case, it's called 'discovery'

To the court and other lawyers, like I said.

Also, like I said, we will have to wait and see.

There are other reasons this is nearly unprovable.

The fact that their software is Proprietary is probably the biggest one. They will use that to block analysis of their code...

Also, they have the support and ownership of some high level officials...

I'd never be so naive to think they wouldn't use vote generators to cheat....probably both sides have, to be honest...

From a technical standpoint...it's pretty glaringly obvious...there is no way to tell what the machine is doing after you enter your vote...even if it gives you a receipt...big deal...those are just data fields ...no way of proving it..

Either it blows up into the biggest International scandal ever....or nothing.....probably nothing....

Stalin laughs from the grave....

Liberals wanted to scrap the Electoral College after Hillbillies loss.


We talking bout scrapping that too? Cuz ones hero lost the game?


a reply to: Brotherman

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
Also, like I said, we will have to wait and see.

How long? Seriously? I've been hearing about 4 years of swamp draining stuff and all kinds of other things about to go down and guess what? Nada. Zilch.

Time is just about up.