Another USPS employee report election fraud

a reply to: Flatcoat

Over his word to who? Veritas? According to him he taped the whole thing. Have you heard it, I sure haven't.
Where do you suppose those quotes in the Post article came from? You say they just made them up? With all the powerful money that Trump supporters are paying into Trump's coffers, I would suppose that they could easily back this fellow in a law suit against the Post. Do you think this will happen? I don't.

But wouldn't that be the best thing that Trump could do? Back this guys lawsuit against the Post? I mean, if the Post is as bad and fake news as Trump alleges wouldn't this be the perfect tool to take them down with? This guy who can prove that the Post lied about his true statements? I would think so, don't you?

a reply to: Grimpachi

There needs to be edited out certain things for legal reasons, for example names etc. Remember that the newspapers have no proof that the postal worker has recanted - which is at least bad journalist and at most fraud - on the other side you have a video recording of the actual postal worker that he never recanted, you are of course entitled to still chose to believe the newspapers but I´m with what the postal worker himself says.

-MM

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The video of him saying that he never recanted is posted twice in this thread, see page #1.

-MM

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
a reply to: Grimpachi

There needs to be edited out certain things for legal reasons, for example names etc. Remember that the newspapers have no proof that the postal worker has recanted - which is at least bad journalist and at most fraud - on the other side you have a video recording of the actual postal worker that he never recanted, you are of course entitled to still chose to believe the newspapers but I´m with what the postal worker himself says.

-MM

Nope. They don't edit out his name or such. That is all in there. There are sections that are blank where they are talking about his deposition.

The recording is of him recanting so you can point to where he later says he didn't but it is his voice doing just that with the investigators.

It is in the video.

He withdrew his statement that he heard them say they were backdating and changed it to that was what he assumed they were talking about. That is recanting.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The Washington Post says he recanted, he says he didn't. It's setting a very dangerous precedent when the WaPo can publish any old crap without evidence and people just assume it's true, which appears to be the case here. Imagine the damage they can do to any person they choose. This poor bloke is now a liar in the eyes of many just because the WaPo said so.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Or, this guy will not come forward and this is yet another ploy by Veritas to get clicks or stir up unrest. For all we know the "witness" is the cameraman.

The first postal worker they interviewed has recanted his story and said he made it up.

Postal worker recanted allegations of ballot tampering, officials say
USPS ‘Whistleblower’ Told Agents Project Veritas Penned His Ballot-Tampering Claim

When he was asked if he wanted to stick with his claim about ballot-tampering, Hopkins said, “At this point? No.” He said his allegation had stemmed from “assumptions” he made after overhearing tidbits of staffers’ conversations in the mail facility. Hopkins told investigators not only that his affidavit was written by Project Veritas but that he wasn’t even entirely sure of what the group had included in it because he was in “so much shock I wasn’t paying that much attention to what they were telling me.” A spokesman for Project Veritas acknowledged having a hand in the affidavit but insisted that the “affidavit was drafted with Mr. Hopkins’ input and requested revisions,” according to the Post.

I don't know why they're trying to make a big deal about Veritas drawing up the affidavit. It's not something new. You don't have some schlub write their own. I think, given their obvious attempt to slant and the guy saying he never recanted, this article is just not reliable. Either way, nothing matters if it isn't in court.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

I think they are making a big deal out of Veritas helping write something that he later said that he didn't actually hear.

On page one of this thread, I posted his recording of him recanting.

originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The Washington Post says he recanted, he says he didn't. It's setting a very dangerous precedent when the WaPo can publish any old crap without evidence and people just assume it's true, which appears to be the case here. Imagine the damage they can do to any person they choose. This poor bloke is now a liar in the eyes of many just because the WaPo said so.

Media now beyond control and now so destructive to society and humanity. They will be the end of us all if the world does not address the now extremely perverse, untruthful and corrupt nature of the media!! Oh and those behind it.

a reply to: Grimpachi

That´s a 2 hr long video, could you give me the time where he supposedly recants according to you?

Thank you.

-MM

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Sorry, I didn't take notes with the times and there is no video for me to queue up and find the sections. I am afraid you will have to suffer through it the same as I did.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Sorry, I didn't take notes with the times and there is no video for me to queue up and find the sections. I am afraid you will have to suffer through it the same as I did.

Here to debate “truth” with no actual citable facts.......

a reply to: Grimpachi

I don´t have 2 hours to find your supposed evidence. You made a claim about him recanting in a 2 hour long video, so you´ll have to back it up by saying where in the video he did so. It´s not that I don´t trust you, I don´t trust anyone I don´t personally know on the internet.

-MM

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Nope, not happening. The video of his recant is there. I have already done my part. If you choose to remain uninformed that is on you.

You can trust veritas if you want.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Nope, not happening. The video of his recant is there. I have already done my part. If you choose to remain uninformed that is on you.

You can trust veritas if you want.

I watched it yesterday, and I can not recall the recant that you claim you heard - I need your help to find the time where he supposedly recanted according to you, perhaps you just misheard or misunderstood what he said.

-MM

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Nope, not happening. The video of his recant is there. I have already done my part. If you choose to remain uninformed that is on you.

You can trust veritas if you want.

Then it should not be hard for you to time stamp the claim, provide context, and a close quote what was actually said.

But why bring and list cited facts to a debate forum?

a reply to: Grimpachi

As much as your posting, you could have taken the time to find and quote actual facts? No?

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

IMO

It would be better if Project Veritas just passed the info along.

They tend to muddy the waters trying to conduct investigations and wiring their witnesses...

Like wtf happened to that guy that recanted? That was messed up....

He should have had a lawyer with him in the interview....major F up...

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: carewemust

First he said he did, and then he said he didn't. Then he said he did again.
This guy is spoiled goods as far as sworn testimony goes, any lawyer would tear him apart. All they would have to do is read this article.

www.washingtonpost.com...

"And for my next piece of evidence, I'd like the jury to read this washington post article on their website" Ya that's some air tight lawyering right there

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Let me know when this is used to get a guilty plea in a court.

Until then it's just he said , she said.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I believe the first one has come out and said it was a hoax or something to that effect.

Link?