So, what's the evidence?

Straight upfront, I don't have a horse in this race, as a Brit living in the UK I can safely say neither man is my President.

I am interested in whats happening as I think we are due a similar (if not identical) state of affairs in the not too distant future.

Over the years of lurking here I have seen these boards grow from being mainly about the supernatural and aliens with some NWO thrown in to being primarily about conspiracies against Trump.

Now, it hasn't escaped my attention that this is a conspiracy site and evidence isn't always required to 'believe' but, I have yet to see any evidence produced for the voter fraud against Trump in the last election.

I have seen many people posting what they have heard on other parts of the Internet or reported on partisan media (there is no unbiased media apparently).

What is the evidence? Or is it belief?

a reply to: Jykan

Here is a link from another thread to wet you whistle.

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
Michigan Voter Fraud lawsuit - Hot off the presses!

Check out the specific allegations - seems there was a lot of bad bad stuff going on in Wayne County, MI.

townsquare.media...

"3. In summary, this Complaint raises numerous instances of fraud, including, but not
limited to:
a. Defendants systematically processed and counted ballots from voters whose name
failed to appear in either the Qualified Voter File (QVF) or in the supplemental
sheets. When a voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the
ballot to a random name already in the QVF to a person who had not voted.
b. Defendants instructed election workers to not verify signatures on absentee ballots,
to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.
c. After election officials announced the last absentee ballots had been received,
another batch of unsecured and unsealed ballots, without envelopes, arrived in trays
at the TCF Center. There were tens of thousands of these absentee ballots, and
apparently every ballot was counted and attributed only to Democratic candidates.
d. Defendants instructed election workers to process ballots that appeared after the
election deadline and to falsely report that those ballots had been received prior to
November 3, 2020 deadline.
e. Defendants systematically used false information to process ballots, such as using
incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names
into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having a birthdate
of 1/1/1900.
f. On a daily basis leading up to the election, City of Detroit election workers and
employees coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. These
workers and employees encouraged voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. These
election workers and employees went over to the voting booths with voters in order
to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.
g. Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot
boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.
h. Defendant election officials and workers refused to record challenges to their
processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced a challenge.
i. After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center,
Defendant election officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out of the
counting room so they could not observe the process, during which time tens of
thousands of ballots were processed.
j. Defendant election officials and workers allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand
without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate. In fact,
election officials and workers repeatedly obstructed poll challengers from
observing. Defendants permitted thousands of ballots to be filled out by hand and
duplicated on site without oversight from poll challengers."

Forging Ballots on the Qualified Voter List

Illegal Voter Coaching and Identification Issues

Changing Dates on Ballots

Illegal Double Voting

First Round of New Ballots

Second Round of New Ballots

No Transparency - Denied Access

Qualified Voter File Access

Absentee Ballot Signatures

Unsecured Ballots

But I will let you look over the pdf document yourself, that's just a little to get you started in Michigan.

a reply to: Jykan

The evidence will be heard in court we dont get to see it yet. What ever evidence they have won't be shared as it is being litigated. There have been plenty of stories about poll watchers not being allowed to watch.

But beyond speculation and small videos here and there that may or may not be fraudulent actions.
We dont know except there are signed affidavits from people claiming fraud. Hope that helps.

There is real evidence, but the left is working hard to cover it up. Everything from dead voters to people voting out of state. Not sure if it's enough to change anything. If you download Parlor you can find stuff unfiltered. But you do have to be weary because some of it really is either bunk or could fall to coincidence. But not all of it is. There's a Tik Tok video of a boy filling out 7 ballots at once. Stuff like that. But that's normal every election. They wander why people want less government when they cant even run an election right. Why would you trust them with more power?
My biggest concern is software that changes votes. That needs to be looked in to. No doubt.

Do you mean evidence that fraud took place in the election?

1. Many witnesses who were meant to act as Republican observers who are ready to testify under oath that they were barred from witnessing the handling and counting of ballots.
2. Witnesses who observed large amounts of ballots being brought to the vote-counting places shortly before those states suddenly flipped to Biden (ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
3. Witnesses who were told to "back-date" tons of late ballots so that they could be counted (in other words, ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
4. Admitted "errors" with voting software that caused thousands of votes for Trump to be counted as votes for Biden (in just one location alone).
5. A surge of over 128,000 sudden counted votes, 100% of which were for Biden, that was coincidentally just enough to flip MI to Biden
6. Verified Biden votes from dead people
7. Tons of ballots that are only filled out for Biden and nothing else
8. Pelosi having said previously that Biden would be president regardless of the vote results.

a reply to: Jykan

There is no known evidence at this time.

It’s basically gossip.

If there is — it will have to be determined by whatever/whoever is legally in charge.

As each state is responsible for their own election rules — it can get complicated.

Plus — none of this is free.

a reply to: Annee

Hahahhahhahahah

There is also a large amount of statistical and mathematical evidence pointing to impossibilities in the real time election numbers. Graphical analysis with statistical analysis. In addition, there is video evidence from CNN in real time showing vote numbers changing from Trump (-19,800 votes) while simultaneously Biden's votes go up by the exact same number which indicates software manipulation in the voting tabulations, possibly called Hammer/Scorecard and or some other algorithm used to manipulate the votes.

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
Wow. Screen cap from election night. Exact same # votes move from Trump to Biden. 19,958. A 40,000 “glitch”.

a reply to: panoz77

Thank you for that, interesting stuff.

But isn't that just what someone claims at the moment? If there was all this evidence out there where the hard proof?

The same as with aliens, everyone has a high def camera on them yet no one seems to catch the money shot.

Is there any actual producable evidence?

originally posted by: Jykan
a reply to: panoz77

Thank you for that, interesting stuff.

But isn't that just what someone claims at the moment? If there was all this evidence out there where the hard proof?

The same as with aliens, everyone has a high def camera on them yet no one seems to catch the money shot.

Is there any actual producable evidence?

Exactly!

originally posted by: Jykan
a reply to: panoz77

Thank you for that, interesting stuff.

But isn't that just what someone claims at the moment? If there was all this evidence out there where the hard proof?

The same as with aliens, everyone has a high def camera on them yet no one seems to catch the money shot.

Is there any actual producable evidence?

Evidence is proof, like the screen capture above. A judge or jury decides if the evidence provides enough proof to make a decision one way or the other.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Jykan

There is no known evidence at this time.

It’s basically gossip.

If there is — it will have to be determined by whatever/whoever is legally in charge.

As each state is responsible for their own election rules — it can get complicated.

Plus — none of this is free.

So Constatino vs City of Detroit is....

Gossip?

originally posted by: Lumenari
So Constantino vs City of Detroit is....

...currently not assigned a file number or presented.

a reply to: panoz77

But that's not proof of fraud. I agree it needs looking into but that could easily have been a mistake that had given Trump extra votes being rectified.

Either way, I agree it needs looking at.

originally posted by: trollz
Do you mean evidence that fraud took place in the election?

1. Many witnesses who were meant to act as Republican observers who are ready to testify under oath that they were barred from witnessing the handling and counting of ballots.
2. Witnesses who observed large amounts of ballots being brought to the vote-counting places shortly before those states suddenly flipped to Biden (ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
3. Witnesses who were told to "back-date" tons of late ballots so that they could be counted (in other words, ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
4. Admitted "errors" with voting software that caused thousands of votes for Trump to be counted as votes for Biden (in just one location alone).
5. A surge of over 128,000 sudden counted votes, 100% of which were for Biden, that was coincidentally just enough to flip MI to Biden
6. Verified Biden votes from dead people
7. Tons of ballots that are only filled out for Biden and nothing else
8. Pelosi having said previously that Biden would be president regardless of the vote results.

originally posted by: Annee
There is no known evidence at this time.

I'll just let that speak for itself.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Lumenari
So Constantino vs City of Detroit is....

Gossip?

Currently not assigned a file number or presented.

It is a presented application to file that has not been assigned a case number yet.

From yesterday.

So of course it has no case number yet.

But you knew that...

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: trollz
Do you mean evidence that fraud took place in the election?

1. Many witnesses who were meant to act as Republican observers who are ready to testify under oath that they were barred from witnessing the handling and counting of ballots.
2. Witnesses who observed large amounts of ballots being brought to the vote-counting places shortly before those states suddenly flipped to Biden (ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
3. Witnesses who were told to "back-date" tons of late ballots so that they could be counted (in other words, ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
4. Admitted "errors" with voting software that caused thousands of votes for Trump to be counted as votes for Biden (in just one location alone).
5. A surge of over 128,000 sudden counted votes, 100% of which were for Biden, that was coincidentally just enough to flip MI to Biden
6. Verified Biden votes from dead people
7. Tons of ballots that are only filled out for Biden and nothing else
8. Pelosi having said previously that Biden would be president regardless of the vote results.

originally posted by: Annee
There is no known evidence at this time.

I'll just let that speak for itself.

Accusations are not evidence.

originally posted by: Lumenari
It is a presented application to file that has not been assigned a case number yet.

From yesterday.

So of course it has no case number yet.

But you knew that...

So at this point it isn't 'evidence', it's a suit that has been drawn up and allegedly submitted for filing.

a reply to: trollz

Again, all hearsay unless the evidence can be produced to back it up is it not?

I will be interested to see what happens with this when and if it goes to court.

If courts hear these cases and view the evidence and find no fault... Would that fix this issue?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: trollz
Do you mean evidence that fraud took place in the election?

1. Many witnesses who were meant to act as Republican observers who are ready to testify under oath that they were barred from witnessing the handling and counting of ballots.
2. Witnesses who observed large amounts of ballots being brought to the vote-counting places shortly before those states suddenly flipped to Biden (ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
3. Witnesses who were told to "back-date" tons of late ballots so that they could be counted (in other words, ballots that were brought in late that would otherwise not be considered legal).
4. Admitted "errors" with voting software that caused thousands of votes for Trump to be counted as votes for Biden (in just one location alone).
5. A surge of over 128,000 sudden counted votes, 100% of which were for Biden, that was coincidentally just enough to flip MI to Biden
6. Verified Biden votes from dead people
7. Tons of ballots that are only filled out for Biden and nothing else
8. Pelosi having said previously that Biden would be president regardless of the vote results.

originally posted by: Annee
There is no known evidence at this time.

I'll just let that speak for itself.

Accusations are not evidence.

I am SO not going to go through your 45732405724057209570289750274 posts of Trump being obviously guilty of Russian Collusion...