Trump Vs Biden Predictions

a reply to: UKTruth

I don't think I actually outright made a prediction like this for Brexit or the 2016 election.

I could be wrong.

EDIT: yeah I double checked looking back over my threads in 2016, not once did I make any prediction, I wrote one thread asking why people where voting for Trump and I also wrote the thread that declared the Brexit vote, but I didn't write one predicting the vote.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: BrennanHuff22

Here are the voting statistics for Florida as of now.

Total Voted by Party Registration

Democrats: 2,555,072 (42.5%)
Republicans: 2,200,418 (36.6%)
Minor Parties: 73,989 (1.2%)
No Affiliation: 1,188,951 (%19.8)
TOTAL 6,018,430 (100.0%)

electproject.github.io...

Just keeping you honest.

People pay a lot of attention to these 'registrations' for some reason.
They mean almost nothing.
How many registered Democrats voted for Trump? how many registered Republicans voted for Biden?
How did the 21% independents / no affiliation people vote?
How comes the independent vote total is so low? Waiting to vote in person?
What is the split between those that will mail in ballots / vote early/ vote on election day?

Too many outstanding questions to be useful.

a reply to: UKTruth

If there is any co-ordinated mass vote rigging going on do you honestly think it would be limited to The Democrats?

As far as I can tell they are both equally amoral and corrupt.

If this was so much of a concern why didn't Trump do something about it during the last four years or so?
Why did he wait till the last minute when it started looking like it was going to be a close run thing then all of a sudden start complaining about mail-in vote fraud being such a big deal - which of course all his sycophants jumped on and took as gospel?

It seems you have become wrapped up in this paranoid right wing revisionism that seeks to demonise anything remotely 'leftist' as evil and portray Conservatives as pure paragons of virtue.
This constant left/right spiteful bickering will literally be the death of the US if it continues for much longer.

Is the US electoral system and procedure so weak and vulnerable that voter fraud is at such a level that the election can be rigged?
This is something one could expect in some run down third world country, but the USA.....the worlds leading superpower?

Maybe it isn't paranoia, maybe its people getting their excuses in early.....or maybe its people setting the stage for them to refuse to accept the result of a democratically held election and to oppose the election of someone whom they disagree with?

originally posted by: Freeborn
If there is any co-ordinated mass vote rigging going on do you honestly think it would be limited to The Democrats?

Of course. Just like child abuse it's strictly the purview of the left.

Get your paradigms straightened out.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: UKTruth

If there is any co-ordinated mass vote rigging going on do you honestly think it would be limited to The Democrats?

As far as I can tell they are both equally amoral and corrupt.

I see one party that has been pushing for mail-in ballots and I have no trust at all that they are doing that with a single noble thought in mind.
I do believe that Republicans will engage in fraudulent behaviour also, but the majority of it will come from Democrats.

If this was so much of a concern why didn't Trump do something about it during the last four years or so?

Because Trump has been as weak as pi** on this issue. All talk and no action. I have no sympathy for him if he loses.

Why did he wait till the last minute when it started looking like it was going to be a close run thing then all of a sudden start complaining about mail-in vote fraud being such a big deal - which of course all his sycophants jumped on and took as gospel?

Ever since mail in voting was discussed in terms of dramatically increasing it, debate has raged about cheat by mail, for good reason. Especially when you then throw in post election day ballots and calls for no signature verification

It seems you have become wrapped up in this paranoid right wing revisionism that seeks to demonise anything remotely 'leftist' as evil and portray Conservatives as pure paragons of virtue.
This constant left/right spiteful bickering will literally be the death of the US if it continues for much longer.

Whatever you want to believe. I can;t stand either wing of the political spectrum at the extremes, i am just awake to the fact that the far left has gained far more inroads into the Democrat party than the far right has into the Republican party. For that reason, I see the left wing extremists as far more dangerous at this time.

Is the US electoral system and procedure so weak and vulnerable that voter fraud is at such a level that the election can be rigged?
This is something one could expect in some run down third world country, but the USA.....the worlds leading superpower?

Yes. The US has become a banana republic. The entire system is broken. If you can't see this then you have not been following the last 20 years of US politics. The electoral system in the US is actually ripe for manipulation. Just a few thousand votes here and there in a country of 300m + can be the difference.

Maybe it isn't paranoia, maybe its people getting their excuses in early.....or maybe its people setting the stage for them to refuse to accept the result of a democratically held election and to oppose the election of someone whom they disagree with?

When it comes to election integrity the baseline mindset SHOULD be 'how can this be rigged'. That offers the insight required to protect the election. The proactive nature to protecting elections is positive because they are so important. The US election process does not have the proper controls, indeed one party is actively seeking to loosen the controls. That speaks volumes.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Did you know that every single serial killer, spree killer and mass murderer was/is a pinko leftie?

Every tin pot dictator and despotic tyrant has been a damned commie bastard.

I also have it on good authority that Hades, Set, Beelzebub and Satan himself all vote Democrat.

originally posted by: Freeborn
I also have it on good authority that Hades, Set, Beelzebub and Satan himself all vote Democrat.

They also voted 666 times each, that's how you roll when you're evil.

a reply to: UKTruth

Please compare the policies of The Democrats with the proposed policies of Labour under Corbyn and then tell me that the Democrats are left wing extremists with a straight face.

Compare their policies with any continental European socialist/social democratic party and you'll see just how centrist the Democrats really are.

Yes, sections of the Democratic Party pose a threat - a real and genuine threat - but not because they are Marxist-Leninist communists......because they aren't, far from it.

a reply to: UKTruth

Its useful in the sense that we can compare the incoming results to the same metric from 2016. We know that the Dems led VBM and early in person voting by a shade under 100k returned ballots in 2016, but Trump actually won by around 113k. It suggests that if voting patterns are relatively stable, Trump stands a good chance in FL if the margin is at 200k or less. As it stands, the GOP has been taking 30-40k chunks out of that lead every weekday for several days now, including +50k yesterday.

The trend suggests we're headed for a Dem margin of around (+)100-150k, which doesn't guarantee anything, but it is an encouraging sign for Trump.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: UKTruth

Please compare the policies of The Democrats with the proposed policies of Labour under Corbyn and then tell me that the Democrats are left wing extremists with a straight face.

Compare their policies with any continental European socialist/social democratic party and you'll see just how centrist the Democrats really are.

Yes, sections of the Democratic Party pose a threat - a real and genuine threat - but not because they are Marxist-Leninist communists......because they aren't, far from it.

Kamala Harris - who will most likely become President during the next 4 years - not by vote. She is as radical as they come - her voting record is further left than Bernie Saunders.

According to a detailed assessment by Voteview, Harris holds a voting record farther left than 97 percent of Democrats in the 116th Senate, and more liberal than 99 percent of the Senate as a whole. Of current members of the U.S. Senate, Harris ranks more liberal than Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) while placing as the Democrat with the most liberal voting record in the chamber aside from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

Harris has stated that illegal immigrants in the United States are not criminals — which defines both logic and traditional definitions of standard English words like “illegal” and “criminal” — and once likened U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers to members of the Ku Klux Klan for having the temerity to enforce the law.

During a Democratic primary debate, Harris raised her hand in support of a government-run health-care plan that would have taxpayers covering illegal immigrants. In an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper in 2019, Harris made it clear that she would be “opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education or public health, period.”

Harris was a co-sponsor of the utterly insane Green New Deal, a co-sponsor to Sanders’s “Medicare For All” scheme to socialize America’s health-care system, and is on record advocating a repeal of the 2017 Republican tax cuts that helped create the conditions for the booming pre-pandemic American economy.

During her failed attempt to win the nomination, Harris promised if she were elected president, she wouldn’t hesitate to sign an executive order banning all “assault weapons” as well as “high-capacity magazines” — both designations left forebodingly undefined. As a district attorney in 2004, she even supported legislation that would require “microstamping” technology for all firearms, a proposal both problematic for its potential infringement on core Second Amendment rights as well as possible government exploitation.

In a CNN Town Hall in October, Harris emphatically stated that she is in favor of banning both fracking and offshore drilling. On the whole, Harris’s recently proposed energy policies veer far into the doomsday scenarios peddled by the radical left, accompanied by drastic “solutions.”

Her “Climate Plan For the People” advocated converting the entire nation to “100 percent carbon-neutral electricity” by 2030, and sought “all new buses, heavy-duty vehicles, and vehicle fleets will be zero-emission.” Like the Green New Deal she co-sponsored, Harris called for “all new buildings” to be “carbon-neutral.” Unsurprisingly, the estimated cost for these projects was not disclosed on Harris’s campaign website.

On abortion, Harris is anything but a moderate. She has gone so far as to propose a new “plan” that would, somehow, force states and localities to seek prior approval and clearance through the U.S. Department of Justice before placing any limits or “restrictions” on abortions.

Harris received a whopping 844 total votes in the entire 2020 Democratic Primary process, and, despite widespread support from powerful Democrats and media outlets alike, she just, well, never caught on. Her selection as Biden’s running-mate, however, gives her a chance to accomplish artificially what she and her backers never got even close to accomplishing organically. Simply put, this is a run-around by leftist Democrats to slink a favored candidate into the White House without having to win the Democratic primary contest let alone a national election at the top of the ticket.

While Biden hasn’t explicitly stated he would not run for a second term if he wins the 2020 presidential election, as David Axelrod notes, the fact that Biden would be 81 by the next election makes it “widely assumed” he would not run again. As such, a Biden victory vaults Harris into a position where Axelrod concedes she would immediately become the “heir apparent” and “putative frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination” in 2024.

This is a prime example of the radical left gaining a major foothold in a mainstream party - all the while LYING about being moderate, when her words, policy proposals and actual voting record tell a very different story.

a reply to: UKTruth

I didn't bring it up. Someone made a deceptive claim, which I corrected

Polls are meaningless.

Bookies make their money ripping people off.

So if anyone can tell me how Trump haters can rig electoral votes. We've never been a direct democracy.

I hope Trump wins.

I'm prepared for him to lose.

a reply to: neo96

Fair enough I totally get the mistrust in polls and your right about the bookies.

You say your prepared for trump to lose, does that mean you think he will lose?

a reply to: neo96

Fair enough I totally get the mistrust in polls and your right about the bookies.

You say your prepared for trump to lose, does that mean you think he will lose?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

After the outright lies,deceit, for YEARS,and the lefts gestapo burning,looting everything in sight.

There's NO THING they wouldn't do to STEAL IT.

a reply to: UKTruth

Kamala Harris is probably the single, biggest threat there is to the US at present.
I've made my feelings about her perfectly clear in several posts and I have no intention of boring the tits off people by repeating them again.

But its her woke, politically correct policies that pose the threat.
They have nothing in common with Marxist-Leninist ideology or even traditional Socialist policies.

I understand the confusion....its something that the PC Brigade themselves like to push, but its absolute bollocks.

The majority of traditional working class Democrat supporters are as aghast at her and her ilk as are the supporters of any other political party.....bit like the huge numbers of traditional Labour supporters turned their back on Labour here in the UK because of their abandonment of traditional Labour Party socialist policies in favour of this new wokism.

And that will probably be the single biggest reason Trump will win this election, not because of overwhelming support for him but rather disillusionment with Kamala Harris and those like her.

But none of that changes the fact that many Democrat economic and social policies are Centrist and could never, ever be described as Socialist or Communist leaning.

a reply to: neo96

Bookies make their money ripping people off.

No one is forced to place a wager with a bookie. If you're a chump, don't blame the bookie.

This is the only poll worth a gamblers attention.

bookies.com...

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
Trump

This was a foregone conclusion. What went before was intellectual masturbation.

I see Biden winning because there are so many more people voting this time around. I interpret more people voting as people wanting change. Also I think the crazy Q crap, and Trump insulting "The Left" every day will probably cost Trump a few votes.

But who knows, we might get attacked by aliens on election day. This is 2020 after all.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Eh yo....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
From actual members who intend to vote....you know....Americans