Is US really this broken? time to look in the mirror

point taken.
Thanks for that. its good to know. All I (and global _) go by is what we hear, and all we hear is national/federal talking points. Its good to hear that individual states operate like normal people!

a reply to: Blaine91555

Yup... people keep voting against someone rather than for someone and then seem surprised that the person they never held acountable for their actions becomes corrupt...

Every single election since I became old enough to vote I have been told thisis make or break for the union we most vote against X, so we have entered a death spiral that will not even slow down until we dump the republicans and democrats and vote out every single person in office to date, lock up the lobbyists and forbid lawyers from holding office.

a reply to: Midnite247

First of all, the EU isn't a nation... allegedly each EU member retains sovereignty. The USA established 160 years ago that the states did not retain sovereignty. So your attempts to compare the United States to the way the EU authority matrix functions aren't appropriate. Further, the same arguments you're making against the US system could easily be lobbed against the EU on other issues. For example, immigration... The strain and magnitude of unchecked immigration into, say, Greece cannot compare to the magnitude and strain of the same into, say, Norway. Yet the EU dictates that every member state accept refugees as demanded.

Also, it isn't the government's job to "handle fear." Fear is a personal issue, and each individual needs to come to terms with their own personal stress thresholds and address those personally.

Totally agree, apologies, let me clarify, when i said EU i mean Europe as individual countries, NOT the EU as a collective organization.
Theres plus and minus points to the EU organisation as there is for a federal US. Im not a fan of either tbh!

a reply to: M5xaz

Lobbyists is 90% of the problem!
a reply to: Irishhaf

People seem to be fine.

Radicals are on both sides.

Government is full of people who failed in private life.

Vote, let’s see how this comes out.

I’m getting 2-1 on Orange Man Bad here in California.

Going to take some cash from the locals.

I’ve had more people in my shower than Biden can get show up.

Hunter makes Billy Carter look sane.

Easy money...

originally posted by: Midnite247
The EU sees the sense that different decisions have different impacts on different EU countries.

To be honest, the EU is probably more broken. Germany is the main benficiary economically, with most other countries in a dire state. The EU does have a good PR department though, and a slavish bunch of elites who keep democracy supressed.

Besides, the US remains functional. Don't let a few rioting Marxists and high-level political silliness get you down.

k, first, i didnt say the EU was a nation.
2. what are EU matrix?
3. That was my exact point that the US issues are similiar to EU, although the EU has individual autonomy
4. That point proven that immigration in Greece is not the same as it is in Norway, yet immigration in ALL US states are FEDERAL not STATE level.
5. nobody mentioned anyones JOB to handle fear. again, a typical US bypass the issue.
Aint working here mate; made the simple statement that the US federal system is too big too handle the 300 million, address the issue or ssshhh.....
a reply to: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Midnite247
And THIS is where the US and the rest of the world differ. We just dont get your fall back on the constitution.
Even the "Amendments" suggests the constitution is open to change, amendments by definition means change - change to the original document.
you ask 100% of people has the country changed in the last 200 years, youl get 100% yes. why is it so alien to you that a 200 year old document can evolve?
And this is not a specific question; this is systematic of how the world sees the US. - And you can "Yea RUMSFLED" all you want... it doesnt change how the global economy s'n-word's at the US. The idiot cousin.

a reply to: incoserv

On the contrary, the fact that the Constitution has and can be amended is testimony to its strength. The framers understood that they didn't know-it-all, and made provision for its adaptation to future necessities. The underlying framework is solid. The very thing that you try to claim as a weakness is its greatest strength.

New is not always better.

The World's laughing....respectfully who gives a bhearrtha. No country or union or whatever does what the US does in worldwide donations and support.

Your lack of knowledge on the importance of the state's right in the constitution is indicative of the ignorance and shallowness of the rest of the world that thinks this way.

Unlike the rest of the world, America isn't defined by its leaders. It's defined by the spirit and attitude of the multi-diverse people and cultures while striving for individual freedom and independence.

But thats exactly my point... why cant you update the constitution (eg; the 2nd amendment you need a shotgun in case the king invades your country) , or add other amendments to reflect 20th century lifestyle? im not judging on any of it one way or the other, but just saying it seems to warrant a bullet in the head, like a 3rd world country... thats the issue the world has with the US.

a reply to: incoserv

a reply to: Midnite247

If the federal government can be compared to the EU,

Using The EU as an example is not a good idea.

The President Of The European Parliament is not even elected by the people. He is put into position by The MEP's

The EU is not a democracy. It's a sham.

originally posted by: Midnite247
And THIS is where the US and the rest of the world differ. We just dont get your fall back on the constitution.
Even the "Amendments" suggests the constitution is open to change, amendments by definition means change - change to the original document.
you ask 100% of people has the country changed in the last 200 years, youl get 100% yes. why is it so alien to you that a 200 year old document can evolve?
And this is not a specific question; this is systematic of how the world sees the US. - And you can "Yea RUMSFLED" all you want... it doesnt change how the global economy s'n-word's at the US. The idiot cousin.

a reply to: incoserv

The Constitution was designed to be amended for good reason. Adding an Amendment however is not that easy to do, and again for good reason.

Link

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention....

...A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States).

By design it's very difficult to amend.

What can't be changed are our Rights. Free speech, freedom to assemble peacefully to protest wrongs and all of that are considered God given which is not really a religious thing. It means that all people on Earth are born with those Rights. It's there to prevent the government from stripping away those Rights.

Freedom is messy and at times even dangerous, but the opposite is far more dangerous. Our leaders serve at our pleasure, they are not forced on us. No government can stand up to a united populace, which is why less free nations use fear and intimidation to keep the people divided and afraid to stand up to them.

The US is not a democracy. Its a sham.
The comparison aint that far.
a reply to: alldaylong

Ironically it was the British Alan Parsons that captures most Americans feeling towards the rest of the world...

That's naïve and you must know that.
Freedom of speech is restricted. Freedom of assembly is overlooked. The media are complicit with the government narrative.
There is no opposition.
There is no widely heard dissenting voice.

a reply to: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Midnite247
That's naïve and you must know that.
Freedom of speech is restricted. Freedom of assembly is overlooked. The media are complicit with the government narrative.
There is no opposition.
There is no widely heard dissenting voice.

a reply to: Blaine91555

More so than in the EU? Hardly.

Have you been sleeping through all of the protests? Are you unaware of the 60s and how people's Rights' changed the country? Speech is powerful. Do you have any concept of how speech and united voices have altered things here?

The Press is free to report any way they see fit. The viewers and readers control what they do, not the government.

60 years ago.
sleeping?
a reply to: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Midnite247
!00%
a reply to: Boadicea

I dont think ur being a smart arse at all.

Whew!

I think ur right on the money.
Something that big just cant be run by one pretend party that is pretending to run the entire country.
I dont know if decentralization/de-federalisation would work, but something needs to happen. The US is no longer fit for purpose. Thats a fact, im not pro or negative US one way or the other, im just stating the fact, the world is watching, and the world is laughing.

My daughter and I were discussing this a couple nights ago, and we feel about the same. No government is perfect -- every government is a "necessary evil" -- but local/regional governance is more responsive to the specific needs of those people, and usually far more efficient.

originally posted by: Midnite247
k, first, i didnt say the EU was a nation.

No, but you do seem to be arguing that the US should become a collective of nation states ala the EU.

2. what are EU matrix?

The EU authority matrix is "all the member states do what Brussels tells them to do or else..."

3. That was my exact point that the US issues are similiar to EU, although the EU has individual autonomy

Again, the US isn't a collective of nation states, it is a Republic of states together forming a nation. The founders struck a brilliant balance between federalism and state's rights.

4. That point proven that immigration in Greece is not the same as it is in Norway, yet immigration in ALL US states are FEDERAL not STATE level.

Yeah, because border security is Constitutionally a federal matter in the US.

5. nobody mentioned anyones JOB to handle fear. again, a typical US bypass the issue.

You did, in your OP...
"Theres zero conversation on the economy, schools, jobs, taxes, general topics, people topics, let alone the current how they are going to handle the curent fear of the people due to the covid pandemic.
Is a federal government really working?"