Where did the Left go?

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: galaga

dont see them jumping to defend Biden and his bizzaro actions.

The left doesn’t exist in a cult of personality where they deify their leaders and feel a need to defend their every action. Unlike right wingers.

Is ATS just a little bit smarter than other groups where we, as a whole, can see for ourselves what is right and wrong? We can hate or support both parties when we see fit?

Nope. ATS has fallen victim to the same online mob mentality that happens anywhere that believes and defends this administrations lies and unethical behavior. It’s a cult of personality that eventually forces out anyone who refuses to toe the line. Not through a victory in logic or anything like that, but because no one is interested in actual debate. Every argument is in bad faith. It’s about a victory, not about figuring out the truth. And no one in their right mind is going to waste their time arguing with someone like that.

And plus, ATS is a conspiracy site. Which is why it’s a place for right wingers to wail about what they think Democrats are up to. Donald Trumps corruption isn’t a conspiracy. It’s been widely and well known for almost 30 years. It’s reality. So this isn’t really the place for that.

If you hate this site and the people that post here then leave. Nobody will be sad to no longer see your vitriolic posts whinging about the right wingers.

There are a couple progressives here that can articulate an argument rather than pissing and moaning about anything that doesn't sound like it's straight out of CHAZ.

Amen

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: galaga

dont see them jumping to defend Biden and his bizzaro actions.

The left doesn’t exist in a cult of personality where they deify their leaders and feel a need to defend their every action. Unlike right wingers.

Is ATS just a little bit smarter than other groups where we, as a whole, can see for ourselves what is right and wrong? We can hate or support both parties when we see fit?

Nope. ATS has fallen victim to the same online mob mentality that happens anywhere that believes and defends this administrations lies and unethical behavior. It’s a cult of personality that eventually forces out anyone who refuses to toe the line. Not through a victory in logic or anything like that, but because no one is interested in actual debate. Every argument is in bad faith. It’s about a victory, not about figuring out the truth. And no one in their right mind is going to waste their time arguing with someone like that.

And plus, ATS is a conspiracy site. Which is why it’s a place for right wingers to wail about what they think Democrats are up to. Donald Trumps corruption isn’t a conspiracy. It’s been widely and well known for almost 30 years. It’s reality. So this isn’t really the place for that.

If you hate this site and the people that post here then leave. Nobody will be sad to no longer see your vitriolic posts whinging about the right wingers.

There are a couple progressives here that can articulate an argument rather than pissing and moaning about anything that doesn't sound like it's straight out of CHAZ.

but he's right. it's a cult. blind obedience.
he hasn't written anything about hate either - why does it always have to be about hate with you guys? he's probably here out of curiosity, for entertainment, just like me, and because sometimes it's really crazy what's being posted. besides, it's not just about trump or politics, there are also other threads. aliens and stuff. luckily!

Y'all know darn well where the left is. Read about their activities non stop, don't act the fool here. Deny ignorance

As of late they are burning down the country where ever fires spawn. Gathering in large groups against nazis by nazis. Causing billions in damage as per elite leftist order untill Trump resigns

Spreading the fake virus, harassing trump fans, and just general REEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ing
Very busy now and ramping up on the mail-in voter fraud.

Ofcourse the elite is sipping punch from baby-skulls in that DC pizza place. Heard they're thinking about doing a 'weekend at bernies' adult theme reshoot with epstein. Where he does all this filthy stuff while being dead and manipulated by others. It's going to be very progressive. Clinton cameo ofcourse, this time he brings a bong

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: galaga

we the leftists are still here, we are everywhere. if you want to meet us in real life, you have to go outside. we are the ones on the streets, in the stores, in the parks. the leaves become brown. autumn is coming.

That's where your wrong I have met very few Leftist in public ...well atleast I have met very few on there own.

Most of the time there in a Group echoing each other , or on television , or on a stage speaking.

You see a leftist is afraid to be caught on there own lest they have to discuss there beliefs with out a crowd of people behind them screaming support. I would love to meet you in public for coffee and discuss politics with you and watch your argument crumble.

sounds nice! by the way, i'm not a leftist. i usually vote for the social democrats and alternately for the green party. the left-wing party (die linke) has about 6% supporters in germany, and i'm not one of them. communism is not my thing, and neither is national socialism.

Where are the people that don't identify as neither left or right?

Why did everyone scatter to either end of the see-saw trying to lord above those on the other side rather than trying to find balance?

If you honestly think leaning more right wing makes a conspiracy theorist website smarter, I suggest you do research into a site called godlikeproductions and thank your lucky stars and flags that ATS hasn't devolved into that... yet.

In any case, to side with what is essentially political gangs, whether it be the Democrips or Rebloodlicans seems to discredit the very spirit of what it means to be a conspiracy theorist.

The Left left because it is impossible to speak reasonably with the right.

It's just fighing and the left is not interested. The right overtake is a circle jerk. It's why ATS, partially, is dying.

originally posted by: JinMI
Some got triggered and espoused extremists views and got themselves banned. Some realized that this wasn't their preferred echo chamber. Some got left behind and the rest just bailed.


However, looking forward to a crop of new accounts soon.

Some realized they were classical liberals and stuck around because they can actually have a good conversation even if they don't agree with us all the time. They're the ones I feel sorry for. Their political party left them for the nuts.

a reply to: ketsuko

Aye. The polarization is not done.

originally posted by: Metallicus
I was considered ‘left-leaning’ when I was I was younger. I haven’t changed...the goal posts moved.

This seems to sum it up for me too. Great way to describe it. Was kinda baffling at first.

I was seen as a lefty... and then one day I was a communist. Then I stopped playing into that game, and realized ATS wasn't void of left leaning members, it just got overwhelmed by American politics.

Twitter, facebook and most of reddit I think is where most of them hang out. Most of the non-leftwing run reddit areas or whatever they are called have been quarantined and banned lol. Twitter has always been left, or at least as long as I knew about it. I abondoned most social medias these days, other than talkin to family members. No groups or anything these days.

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Many were banned. Due to their inability to have a logical conversation.

if that would be the case, this site might not have more than 100 members.

The Majority of the members here, that last — are well seasoned, educated (wise).

How is there any discrepancies in our constitution, Bill of Rights?

I hope you find your path.

It’s all BS at this point.

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: galaga

we the leftists are still here, we are everywhere. if you want to meet us in real life, you have to go outside. we are the ones on the streets, in the stores, in the parks. the leaves become brown. autumn is coming.

That's where your wrong I have met very few Leftist in public ...well atleast I have met very few on there own.

Most of the time there in a Group echoing each other , or on television , or on a stage speaking.

You see a leftist is afraid to be caught on there own lest they have to discuss there beliefs with out a crowd of people behind them screaming support. I would love to meet you in public for coffee and discuss politics with you and watch your argument crumble.

sounds nice! by the way, i'm not a leftist. i usually vote for the social democrats and alternately for the green party. the left-wing party (die linke) has about 6% supporters in germany, and i'm not one of them. communism is not my thing, and neither is national socialism.

Textwe the leftists are still here, we are everywhere

I beg the differ , you clearly said hear ^ " we the leftist " meaning you count yourself among them .

originally posted by: and14263
They grew up.

Leftists are usually young.

Then you get educated and either learn politics is a sham you can't control or you lean to the right.

Very true. My dad said that there was an old saying: “If you’re not a liberal by age 21, you don’t have a heart. If you’re not a conservative by age 40, you don’t have a brain.”

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: Hecate666

TBH it's impossible to defend what you listed, because there is no defense. Add to that that the left will not, cannot and does not discuss anything but rather wants anything they don't like to be banned, censored or deleted, what did you expect?
They are either throwing out insults [trumpetts, idots etc] or they ask for bannings; if that doesn't happen, they cheese it.
There is your answer. They are actually on the wrong side of history and that is a hard position to defend.

Can't disagree with you ....... But you missed out the 'new' *cancelled*

Oh yes, thank you. I knew there was another word and I really couldn't think of it [tip of the tongue], this was it.


along with banned...censored...and deleted.

a reply to: Hecate666

Actually, there was more written underneath but this brilliant website didn't print it. I was saying thanks for the world that was on the tip of my tongue and I couldn't remember. It was the word cancelled.

originally posted by: Psilocyborg
Where are the people that don't identify as neither left or right?

Why did everyone scatter to either end of the see-saw trying to lord above those on the other side rather than trying to find balance?

If you honestly think leaning more right wing makes a conspiracy theorist website smarter, I suggest you do research into a site called godlikeproductions and thank your lucky stars and flags that ATS hasn't devolved into that... yet.

In any case, to side with what is essentially political gangs, whether it be the Democrips or Rebloodlicans seems to discredit the very spirit of what it means to be a conspiracy theorist.

I like GLP. And we are at the point where we have to choose a side. I'm on the side that hates communism.

a reply to: galaga


I am guessing they got tired of these circle jerk posts where you all congratulate yourselves no longer knowing how to debate. Just ridicule and deride.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: galaga

dont see them jumping to defend Biden and his bizzaro actions.

The left doesn’t exist in a cult of personality where they deify their leaders and feel a need to defend their every action. Unlike right wingers.

Is ATS just a little bit smarter than other groups where we, as a whole, can see for ourselves what is right and wrong? We can hate or support both parties when we see fit?

Nope. ATS has fallen victim to the same online mob mentality that happens anywhere that believes and defends this administrations lies and unethical behavior. It’s a cult of personality that eventually forces out anyone who refuses to toe the line. Not through a victory in logic or anything like that, but because no one is interested in actual debate. Every argument is in bad faith. It’s about a victory, not about figuring out the truth. And no one in their right mind is going to waste their time arguing with someone like that.

And plus, ATS is a conspiracy site. Which is why it’s a place for right wingers to wail about what they think Democrats are up to. Donald Trumps corruption isn’t a conspiracy. It’s been widely and well known for almost 30 years. It’s reality. So this isn’t really the place for that.

My last post got deleted because of feels.

I hope you feel better now. You have one less post you disagree with.

Good little antifascist got rid of the words you disagreed with.

Someday, when you can assemble an actual argument, maybe we can have a discussion.