President Trump signed an executive order to promote patriotic education in schools

Lol at all the non citizens telling us how and what should be in our education system.
We do not want to be like you.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

My father fought in Korea. From the records I have found, he was a hero many times over. Yet... he never mentioned Korea when he got back. His medals (a freakin' big box of them!) were packed neatly away in an old trunk that was almost never opened. When I did get to see that box crammed with medals, I asked him about them. He just shrugged and said "that's just stuff they gave me."

He forgot. To this day I do not know what he forgot, but he forgot.

I had two uncles fight in WWII. One I knew very well, almost like a second daddy. At his funeral I found out he entered the draft as a conscientious objector. Oh, he wasn't afraid or anything like that... he just didn't want to kill anyone. He served on the front lines, and was one of the few without a gun. Instead, he had a first-aid kit. My uncle was a field medic... he was the guy who would run out unarmed into the middle of enemy fire to get our soldiers back in one piece and alive.

And he forgot. I never heard him mention a word about his service. I didn't even know he had served until I heard Taps played at his funeral. I found out about his record from one of the soldiers.

The boys who returned from Vietnam did not get to forget. They were forced by a bunch of arrogant, ignorant, brain-dead, self-absorbed hippies to remember every moment of fear, every moment of torture, every moment of pain and sorrow over and over and over for the rest of their lives. The Vietnam War was not a just war... but it did no good to torture those who had already been tortured. They didn't decide to go; they decided to obey the law and their government. Just like today, the protests were not about actually correcting anything; they were about inflicting as much pain and agony on the innocent as possible.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Anon283799

What is "patriotic education" ?

Sounds a bit Orwellian.

Not really, quite the opposite.

I've always thought and was somewhat actually taught about the constitution of the United States in grade school and some in High School, that Since our Constitution is to be considered the highest law in the our country, then why is it NOT taught in grade school through High School now...or is it?

a reply to: Komodo

Learning about the Constitution isn't patriotic, that's basic civics, I learned about that in 6th grade.

a reply to: shooterbrody

You're just saying the same thing over and over. Where does sanders promote slavery?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: panoz77

The Nazi's said the same thing in the 1930s.

Stop it. The Nazi and Hitler stuff is played out. You don't like Trump, we all get it, but stop acting like Trump is Hitler and attempting to turn America into Nazi Germany. If that was the case, he wouldn't have a better record with minorities than any president in decades.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: RazorV66
It figures that Leftists here are not in favor of this.
God forbid the history of the greatest country on the planet is taught.
Oops I used the word “God”, that should set them off as well.

How about we set up some re-education camps?

You know, where people can learn what Republicans believe. That Nazis blah blah blah

Y'all just can't help yourselves... SMH

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: panoz77

That's nice. Still doesn't change the fact that the National Socialist party of Germany wanted anything progressive to be labeled as communist. And to implement "traditional German values", through sweeping educational reform.

That's not why Hitler was hated by the world, and that's not what he's remembered for. His hatred and action towards Jews is what made him a monster. Trump doesn't hate people who aren't white. Progress is good when that progress isn't geared towards wiping out American history and destroying careers of those who don't hold the same opinion. Trust me, nipping that retardation we call "progressive" will help everyone out in the long run.

And, BTW, the democrats are the ones pushing socialism, k?

a reply to: frogs453

Nah man, the obama administration divided this country when they came down hard on anyone who disagreed with obama's policies. Every media outlet that called out any of his policies was bullied into submission and got rid of the "racists" who dared say something negative about obama and it created a domino effect that divided this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the democrats had the KKK running around lynching blacks for looking at a white girl wrong. Michelle obama constantly told us we should be ashamed of ourselves for being white, and the list goes on. So tell me exactly how Trump divided this country, because from what I'm seeing he's got more support from the black community than any Republican in a very long time.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: frogs453

Nah man, the obama administration divided this country when they came down hard on anyone who disagreed with obama's policies. Every media outlet that called out any of his policies was bullied into submission and got rid of the "racists" who dared say something negative about obama and it created a domino effect that divided this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the democrats had the KKK running around lynching blacks for looking at a white girl wrong. Michelle obama constantly told us we should be ashamed of ourselves for being white, and the list goes on. So tell me exactly how Trump divided this country, because from what I'm seeing he's got more support from the black community than any Republican in a very long time.

I certainly don’t believe Trump started the division, but he certainly plays into it. And do not take that as me supporting the Dems because they’re doing it too. I don’t care what side they’re on or even if I agree with everything else on their platform, if they’re not actively working towards uniting the United States of America, they will not have my support.

As far as I’m concerned, any divisive speech that pits Americans against each other is anti-American. United we stand, divided we fall.

Every day, those in the work force that make up America has to go to work and get their jobs done alongside people they may not like or completely disagree with in every aspect of their lives, but we all still do it and get our jobs done. The fact that our government is incapable of doing this is disgusting. Both sides are actively working to divide us and they’re doing a hell of a job of it.

For every leftist comment on “deplorables” or whatever Biden was spewing the other day, there’s a tweet from Trump doing the same thing on the opposite side. I can not convince myself that these people are truly for America.

a reply to: LSU2018

I didn't call Trump Hitler. You did.

Using political tactics similar to what the Nazi party and Soviets used doesn't make Trump Hitler. It sure does show intentions tho. History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes. The GOP is all about control through top down executive branches. Ordering a more "american" educational reform is that type of control.

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Anon283799

Hopefully this special education he's calling for helps promote some critical thinking about our history. You can love your country but not love everything it's done. I can be a patriot and still constantly question my government, which, in my opinion, is the most patriotic thing you can do.

Agreed. I think the worst parts can be exposed, we already know about Slavery in our history, might as well air out the rest and learn from it.

While the topic of slavery is being discussed, they should also talk about William Ellison so kids will know that slavery wasn't just a one-way street involving only white slave owners. It makes a big difference.

He's not promoting 'Patriotic Education'. He wants to eliminate any education that addresses race disparity or promotes racial tolerance. Hopefully his 'Patriotic Education' will include how he eliminated 'checks and balances' and turned the DOJ into the SS.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: LSU2018

I didn't call Trump Hitler. You did.

Using political tactics similar to what the Nazi party and Soviets used doesn't make Trump Hitler. It sure does show intentions tho. History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes. The GOP is all about control through top down executive branches. Ordering a more "american" educational reform is that type of control.

yea, no. Did the GOP sign an EO or was it just Trump?

See, if this was a GOP thing, there would have been a bill, and everyone would have talked about the pros and cons for months, and we would have smoked out all the communist assholes in our government. (like this thread right here is doing)

a reply to: TheRedneck

Both of my uncles and my dad served in Vietnam. My Uncles were in the Marines. One flew on Marine One with Nixon, and the other was a sniper sent out on special missions. The one who flew with Nixon died in 1999 and I never asked about his service, nor have I ever heard about any of it besides that he rode with the President. I've asked my other uncle about his time and he said "sht, son, you don't want to hear about all of that. Let's talk about something else." Our conversation always reverts back to the same thing, the oilfield, because the company I worked for was the same company he'd worked for back in the 80's. My dad went into the Air Force and spent most of his time in Guam as the Crew Chief for B-52s.

My grandfather was a pilot who left Southern Methodist U in the middle of the 1942 football season (he was their RB) to join the Army Air Corps and fought in WWII. He died from a blood clot in 1972 so I never got to meet him, but the way times were back then, when the war was over and the soldiers came home, my grandmother told me how everyone danced in the street and so many showed up to greet that soldiers as they arrived home, thankful for all they did. It really puts into perspective where we stand today and true that meme is about times.

a reply to: strongfp
No
You just refuse to acknowledge the truth.
He is a communist.
No worries.
New USMCA is a good thing and a promise kept eh?

a reply to: Drucifer

I agree in a sense. But what Trump does isn't dividing America, he's spent 4 entire years defending himself from daily attacks and at the same time doing what he thinks is best for this country. So far it shows. People who hate the man are the ones dividing. It wouldn't be an issue if the democrats did their thing without forcing it down our throats.

a reply to: strongfp

You didn't have to. The reference to Nazi Germany "doing the same thing" was enough.

If you'd be so kind as to tell me exactly how a more American education system in America is control, please?

Wanting children to learn about American history instead of the revised history they've been getting for the past 20+ years shouldn't be seen as a Nazi tactic. A Nazi tactic would be Trump turning citizens who look like him against citizens that don't, and having them rounded up and thrown into a concentration camp, and there's a million miles of difference between Trump and Nazi Germany.

Learning more about this country's true history is control.... HA! Can't make that type of crap up man.

a reply to: LSU2018

They did do the same thing. So have many other governments and parties before and since then.

You're focusing on the big issues tied with the Nazi's. And not looking at the building blocks to their path to fascism.
I'm not refuting that there's revisionists in the US, it happens. Evangelicals have been trying to do it for decades now. BLM were trying to do it as well.

But why does it need a sweeping reform from executive branches? How far will it go?

a reply to: network dude

He's the figure head of the GOP. That makes him directly affiliated with the party.