Remember the Sabbath, and keep it Holy - possible hidden meaning

Just within the past couple of weeks, I have been looking into some Verses with new eyes. One of these, is the very popular "Remember the Sabbath, and keep it Holy.". I wanted to see what I could see from an ancient Babylonian perspective.

On face value, this says to Keep yourself and your actions Holy on the Sabbath.

Putting emphasis on remember, we can notated that something was forgotten.
Remember the (forgotten) Sabbath, and keep it Holy.
To me, this suggests the Shabbat.

We aren't adding to Scripture, but merely suggesting a second dicotomy or duality.

The last connection comes from the only other word associated with the Sabbath.
Shebbatthai is a word for the Levi Cohen meaning the Sabbath-born.
These had the duties to argue the Law, and to seek out illegal marriages.
Perhaps this is also pointing to remembering the Sabbath=born's duties, since the name seems a reference.

Just a bit of a thought.

Oh, and I found out that I was born late night on a Friday night.

a reply to: ThreeDeuce

Sabbath born were born on the equivalent of Sundays (Shabbat)?

If you were a Levite born on that day, you could be in the sect of riests who investigated who was shacking up with who without the priest's content? What constituted illegal marriages?

Sorry for so many questions.

I am not Jewish so the sabbath has no real meaning as a requirement to me.
In Jesus we are all the same.

Call me old fashioned, but I think the Sabbath should be Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.

The rest is paganism (not that I mind).

But anyway, couldn't resist, "Remember the Sabbath"!

originally posted by: quix0tic
a reply to: ThreeDeuce

Sabbath born were born on the equivalent of Sundays (Shabbat)?

If you were a Levite born on that day, you could be in the sect of riests who investigated who was shacking up with who without the priest's content? What constituted illegal marriages?

Sabbath born is referencing the Shabbat, which is from Friday evening until Saturday evening.
Shebbatthai seems to denote the Levite Cohen in general, as if they all are called the Sabbath-born.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
I am not Jewish so the sabbath has no real meaning as a requirement to me.
In Jesus we are all the same.

The argument of the fulfillment of Jesus is one of the main ones that I contend with. In the same verse it says that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law, it also states that Jesus did not come to abolish the Law. People interpret this to say that we do not need to follow the Law (because we are saved). I take a different meaning, similar to one of sin. We are asked to try not to sin, and to try and follow the Way that Jesus has showed us ....... but, fear not for we are saved and can be forgiven for our sins, because Jesus Christ died upon the Cross for us.

I take the same viewpoint as the Laws. Of course the sacrifices and sin offerings are spoke out directly against, because there is no need to do these repetitively when Jesus has died for our sins, but there is more Law than that. It is the fulfillment word which throws people off, but I take it to mean that we can be just like Jesus, if we fully follow the Law. If we slip up, then it is no big deal. My God understands how difficult it is. However the big difference is that my God has asked me to show that I can hear him and follow his Law.

The Law is not Abolished, but we have been shown the Way that we should walk, in Jesus's footsteps, as he did. I would question any scholar who suggests that Jesus did not follow the Law, and I would question any clergy who teaches their followers to depart from the Law. One should not add their own interpretation on to the Word of God. If it is written that Jesus did not come to abolish the Law, then that is what it means. It does not mean that fulfillment is abolishing of the Law, when it says that he didn't abolish it. I have never understood this from clergy. They are adding to Scripture, and hurting their sheep.

originally posted by: halfoldman
Call me old fashioned, but I think the Sabbath should be Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.

The rest is paganism (not that I mind).

But anyway, couldn't resist, "Remember the Sabbath"!

Remember definitely points to something that is forgotten.
People can find hints of paganism in Christianity for several reasons, in my opinion. First off, people can usually see what they want to. The Bible talks about seeing evil in the world versus seeing good and miracles. It's all perspective, and what you put energy into. BUT, the Bible also talks about how there are people that are adding to it and taking away from the Word. This could easily be the origin of some of these Pagan rituals, especially when we consider knowledge of the Church of Smyrna being the synagogue of Satan known as the Canaanites.

Want to know two other names that I just realized was listed in Rev 2 and 3 ??? Antipa and Balaam. Those definitely sound like Ba'al (moloch), and Antifa.

a reply to: ThreeDeuce
Do you have a reference that you can cite that Shebbatthai means Sabbath-born?

Google search turns up only this thread. Have you coined a new word here?

originally posted by: quix0tic
a reply to: ThreeDeuce

If you were a Levite born on that day, you could be in the sect of riests who investigated who was shacking up with who without the priest's content? What constituted illegal marriages?

There are two different things that are being discussed here, Levites and Cohen (Kohenim). All of the Kohenim are Levites. This is a more specific lineage of priests that are simply a father and son line. We have never known why this Father and Son line was given prominence in the Jewish religion, but now we see that it is a mutation that is passed down from this Father to Son line.

I do not think that a Cohen needed to be born on the Sabbath to be called a Shebbatthai. It seems this is just a term for the Cohen. The illegal marriages is the intriguing thing, because that seems to be very important to Judaism. Traditionally, this was to stop people from marrying outside of the Jewish faith. People would have to convert, and then after conversion would be allowed to marry. These illegal marriages were ones that were outside of the church.

Fast forward to modern times, and we have the Levi/Cohen holding a genetic marker which allows us to understand who the two candlesticks are of Rev2 and 3. This gives us the knowledge of the synagogue of Satan. Surely, that is an illegal marriage in the church of God. Second is the genetic marker itself which brings a renewal to Judeah, as the ruling priests who are not this father and son line then should be removed immediately. Truth prevails here, regardless of their intention to be in the position.

I'd like to point here that most of the Levites are priests, but the Cohen are a higher line of priests inside the Levis. Traditional Jewish services start with the Cohen line receiving the First Blessing of the Torah reading. If a Cohen is there, then he reads this so that the Church can bless his entire family. The Second Blessing is for the Levites. If no Cohen is present for the First Blessing, then a Levite reads it. The Levite also reads the second Blessing.

Another of the illegal marriages could have to deal with the Bride of Babylon analogy. Babylon has gotten a horrible image in the eyes of many, and perhaps the Shebbatthai are bringing back this Bride to prominence of the Church, regaining the pedestal that she should be on.

One intriguing thing about the Cohen are one of their tasks. They are asked to Bless their people daily. The verse which they recite is a very common one "The Lord bless thee, and keep thee: The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace." It is the hand gesture that they hold during this Blessing that raises an eyebrow. Pop culture would describe this as the vulcan hand signal from Star Trek, which would be described as The Priestly Blessing by Kohenim. This is done with both hands, not just one. The point that intrigues me here is that we are tracking an odd mutation that we have no explanation for, from civilizations connected with Nimrod and the Annunaki, and the hand signal is connected to outer space through popular culture.

All of these clues suggest that the Dogon origin story matches with Egyptian extraterrestial theories in a really intriguing way.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: ThreeDeuce
Do you have a reference that you can cite that Shebbatthai means Sabbath-born?

Google search turns up only this thread. Have you coined a new word here?

I found this sometime within my past two weeks. I will track it down, because I read it just recently. In the same article/webpage it was talking about the sabbath born and their duties. I had found it when I was looking at word roots of the Sabbath, and I think from strong's concordance (not sure here).

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: ThreeDeuce
Do you have a reference that you can cite that Shebbatthai means Sabbath-born?

Google search turns up only this thread. Have you coined a new word here?

www.blueletterbible.org...
The Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon points to this being Sabbath Born

Here is a man who is named that, with different spellings "Sabbatai Zevi (Hebrew: שַׁבְּתַי צְבִי‎, other spellings include Shabbetai Ẓevi, Shabbeṯāy Ṣeḇī, Shabsai Tzvi,"



Now I don't know much Talmud or anything, but this was very intriguing and came up when I was trying to find that Lexicon that pointed to Sabbath-Born ... this is an odd quote for sure
www.come-and-hear.com...
"It was recorded in R. Joshua b. Levi's notebook: He who [is born] on the first day of the week [Sunday] shall be a man without one [thing] in him — What does 'without one [thing] in him' mean? Shall we say, without one virtue?16 Surely R. Ashi said: I was born on the first day of the week! Hence it must surely mean, one vice. But Surely R. Ashi said: I and Dimi b. Kakuzta were born on the first day of the week: I am a king17 and he is the captain of thieves!18 — Rather it means either completely virtuous or completely wicked.19 [What is the reason? Because light and darkness were created on that day.]20 He who is born on the second day of the week will be bad-tempered — What is the reason? Because the waters were divided thereon.21 He who is born on the third day of the week will be wealthy and unchaste. What is the reason? Because herbs were created thereon.22 He who is born on the fourth day of the week will be wise and of a retentive memory.23 What is the reason? Because the luminaries were suspended [thereon] — He who is born on the fifth day of the week will practise benevolence. What is the reason? Because the fishes and birds were created thereon.24 He who is born on the eve of the Sabbath will be a seeker. R. Nahman b. Isaac commented: A seeker after good deeds.25 He who is born on the Sabbath will die on the Sabbath, because the great day of the Sabbath was desecrated on his account. Raba son of R. Shila observed: And he shall be called a great and holy man.26"

It's intriguing that a term with such importance as Sabbath-born gives no results. I do not mind you questioning the validity of my statements, as I know that is what is to be expected. It is the same as showing scientific credibility. That opinions are substantiated by evidence.

Even the Sabbath is pretty far departed from our society, as it's still often debated on which day that it is. To have other possible mysteries surrounding this topic would not surprise me. I feel that some could have been because of the babel of the ages, but we also should not discount the intentional agenda of the synagogue of Satan to SMEAR (smyrna) the name of the Church through it's own wicked deeds and beliefs.

a reply to: ThreeDeuce

No, that’s silly
You can’t do the law
The Sermon on the Mount made that abundantly clear, not only did Jesus teach the severity of the law in that sermon, Jesus made it very clearly impossible to keep the law, go read it again. Looking at a woman lustfully is considered adultery, unforgiveness is murder, calling a person a fool, hell...
You can’t keep the law, to think that you can keep the law makes Jesus sacrifice useless and impuissant, pointless.

The Mosaic law exists (for Jews) but those who choose Jesus are under grace and not the law, basic and simple christianity.
I am in a covenant with Jesus and His sacrifice, based on grace, not a Jewish covenant otherwise I would be a Jew.

Jesus said, love covers many sins, not animal sacrifice or money

You might read your bible but you don’t understand it.
Add to the bible?
You don’t even understand the bible

In 1Corinthians 10, Paul states “all things are lawful to me”, you have no idea what Paul is saying do you?
How can we be under Mosaic law and then be under Grace, can you understand two different covenants.
Do you know what a Judaiser is, do you know why Paul preached against people who demanded others keep Mosaic law, do you comprehend what you read.

Jesus didn’t abolish the Judaic law, Jesus set up a new covenant of grace for christians. Jesus was a Jew and offered a “new way”, Himself.

Paul said preaching the Mosaic law at christians was satanic

a reply to: ThreeDeuce

This whole thread is about you thinking yourself as special
This whole thread is your ego, you inflating your own ego
This whole thread is a clear indication you dont understand Jesus and what He taught and what Jesus requires of you.

a reply to: ThreeDeuce

From the Strong's Concordance, Shabbethay occurs 3 times, as proper noun, someone's name.
Ezra 10:15, Neh 8:7, Neh 11:16. Could mean: Sabbatical, restful, or born on the Sabbath.

The Talmud reference is some Rabbis having a debate. I don't know if there is any resolution over the matter.

It seems to me that it would be a far reach going from a proper name for some individual people and then using that as the basis for identifying a family line.

a reply to: pthena

Nobody said anything about using that to determine a family line. Do not assert your own misunderstandings into the conversation. This is easily identifiable through the Mutation that over 98% of the Kohenim have. This is the YAP+ mutation.

You come close to the line, asking if I had made up a phrase ..... due to your inability to find it.
Then you make the claim that people are using that to identify a family tree?
Do you lie intentionally, or just lack reading comprehension?
Neither conveys a very large sense of honesty from you.

a reply to: Raggedyman

It sounds as though you are making accusations based on your own opinions.
This thread is about the genetic anointing of God, through his Two Witnesses.
You can make claims against it, but you speak with little knowledge of this subject.
Of course you can use it to attack me. People even twist God's Word to attack others unjustly.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the Law. Teaching other than that is a blaspheme.

You who speaks against the literal Words of Jesus are walking a very thin rope. You may think that your opinions are justified because of your opinion .... but have you considered if you were incorrect? You leave no margin of error for your own mistake, because the penalties for taking from or adding to the Word are quite severe.

This is religious conspiracy room, and you expect me to believe you because you insult me and tell me what everyone else thinks? That is hilarious, if you think Jesus would lead with disrespect. It simply shows that you don't know how to follow in the footsteps at all.