Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: mirageman

I've been a part of a 'cult-like' organization several times
in my life, and the psychology always seems to be the
same; it's something like:

"we are the wise ones, who know the secrets of the world,
and anyone who disagrees with us is lame. Others don't
have the wisdom to fund our hobbiest ideas without
that much basis in reality, so we have the moral
imperative to use/misuse any funds we can get our
hands on, as it's for the unviersal good".

That's the mindset I've seen.

a reply to: mirageman

The question is who organized all that hoopla in those mass media stories in 2017 over ATTIP which TTSA eventually leached off of and got kickstarted.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: mirageman

The question is who organized all that hoopla in those mass media stories in 2017 over ATTIP which TTSA eventually leached off of and got kickstarted.

A very well funded organization with the clout to 'influence' various media platforms. You only need to return to the OP of this thread to see how it has worked out in the past.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: mirageman

The question is who organized all that hoopla in those mass media stories in 2017 over ATTIP which TTSA eventually leached off of and got kickstarted.

Now we can look back and see how many mountains were actually moved ......(earlier ITT we thought Justice had done something wrong and TTSA might be his punishment LOL)- it looks like there might only be 2 realistic options.


The President/ Other recognised legitimate Authority within the US govt.
Some sort of Pan-Presidential C.O.G shadow entity a la Dark Journalist/Farrell theories.


Whoever it was - they mobilised lots of boy scouts.
Boy scouts always follow the rules.
Only legitimate authorities can set the rules.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Intelligence agency on their own accord doing the same stuff they always do with cointelpro?

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Hopefully.

The only thing I'm curious about Skinwalker Ranch,
is that Travis Taylor asserts there are high bursts
of ionizing radiation on 1 or more parts of SWR.

(this is why mr. taylor scorns 'consciousness type
explanations'; I heard him discussing that in a
youtube).

Well, I keep wondering if it's the Defense Intelligence
Agency, that is 'testing Havanah syndrome' at SWR
that is the cause of those supposed detections?

I probably won't mention this topic again.. things
are QUITE sensitive on this topic, since it came out
about MKULTRA and other testing on US citizens.

I can't prove it, but i'd bet my next paycheck,
that testing on US citizens has never decreased
in frequency; that those testing on us have
simply outsourced it to the private sector
and the testing is done in a more clever
fashion.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


Very curious stuff.

originally posted by: mirageman

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: mirageman

The question is who organized all that hoopla in those mass media stories in 2017 over ATTIP which TTSA eventually leached off of and got kickstarted.

A very well funded organization with the clout to 'influence' various media platforms. You only need to return to the OP of this thread to see how it has worked out in the past.

Because of this thread, we have the mechanics behind the ASSWAP/ATTIP scheming to create the ATTIP/TTSA mythology.

All we can assume reasonably is that it was military-related IC. We got that, it's not nuclear physics. But the question is why?

Either the traditional since 53 Robertson panel (interfere with ufology) or something new: for some reason, they wanted to popularize ufos in the public mind…Why. That’s still unclear.

originally posted by: Jukiodone

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: mirageman

The question is who organized all that hoopla in those mass media stories in 2017 over ATTIP which TTSA eventually leached off of and got kickstarted.

Now we can look back and see how many mountains were actually moved ......(earlier ITT we thought Justice had done something wrong and TTSA might be his punishment LOL)- it looks like there might only be 2 realistic options.


The President/ Other recognised legitimate Authority within the US govt.
Some sort of Pan-Presidential C.O.G shadow entity a la Dark Journalist/Farrell theories.


Whoever it was - they mobilised lots of boy scouts.
Boy scouts always follow the rules.
Only legitimate authorities can set the rules.

Interestingly, TTSA tried to recruit Farrell and he didn’t bite so they got Levenda. Two mainstream conspiracy writers that might have been the ones to expose this operation. None of those two were really ufologists. But we do know TTSA seems to have tried to shun typical ufologist obsessives.

That in itself may tell us something.

Boom!

The UFO Injury Study That Wasn't

All of the names are familiar to us.

It's a long read and too long for a summary at the moment. Beyond quoting the last paragraph maybe?

To those who would argue "science can't prove everything," I would remind them this isn't my hill to die on. Defending their argument is the responsibility of Team Bigelow, To The Stars, the federally funded AAWSAP, and everyone else who brought metaphysical beliefs to a scientific debate. If they don't want their assertions subjected to scientific standards of evidence and the related protocols, don't call it science.

a reply to: mirageman


Thankyou for posting. I've got as far as Dr Nolan and thus far a fascinating read!

a reply to: mirageman

Jack writes some of the best 'UFO' material on the net.

That blog entry should be pinned to the top of the UFO forum.

Kev

PS:

I obviously am fascinated by this sentence:

Green believes his patients have described very quiet, advanced drones. Some seem to be black triangles.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It's almost as if the UFO/UAP topic is being used as a metaphor by some of these folk for something that is causing brain injuries and other anomalous effects on humans. Meanwhile, members of the Vegas UFO Mob go around telling tales of how they took poltergeists home from the ranch. Even Knapp is in on the act now, claiming it spooked his wife. Despite never saying a word for over 15 years about this previously!!!

Don't forget that TTS (they've dropped the A) still employed these people on their advisory after the three amigos had parted ways.

a reply to: mirageman

Meanwhile, members of the Vegas UFO Mob go around telling tales of how they took poltergeists home from the ranch.

What exactly occurred when the poltergeist was taken home. I haven't kept up with all this except it gets so muddled up with all these players leading the way.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

It's in this interview precisely here : TOE with George and Colm

Funny how neither of them mentioned it in their first Skinwalker book or ever before until recently innit?

I mean how do we know it happened for real? How do we know it's even anything to do with visiting the ranch?

As Mr. Brewer puts it.

....It starts and ends with standards of evidence. If you compromise the extent you are committed to fact-checking from the very outset of an interaction with someone, it is reasonable to question what other "facts" get compromised along the way in pursuit of YouTube viewers and website hits.

From memory I think JV mentions poltergeist activity in relation to sessions with Uri Gellar plus others in connection with Stargate / RV.

I personally have had exposure to this aspect of "ufology" (or whatever it is) and believe there to be some kind of a link, if only that we perceive the actions the same way although the root cause / force may be totally different. But in terms of standards of evidence and a scientific approach that has it's own inherent problems.

a reply to: mirageman

It's almost as if the UFO/UAP topic is being used as a metaphor by some of these folk for something that is causing brain injuries and other anomalous effects on humans.

Now YOU are being scary synchronistic.

'UFOs' ARE indeed a metaphor for what's really happening (though a metaphor
with a sometimes physical component)

and disability and injury ARE part of the conversation.

It's part of the topic I'm writing about for the international conference that is
not about 'UFOs', but sometimes does include that topic as a subcategory
of syndrome effects.

Now before you make unwarranted assumptions,

I don't know any of the 3 remaning scientists,
and I'm 'blacklisted' by a variety of UFO
personalities, as I don't continence BS.


Kev

And yes... "poltergeists/PATHOLOGIES" can be taken
home.. it happened to me.. scared the sheis out of me.

a reply to: mirageman

Thank you MM.

From a kinder and gentler Poltergeist on the other side…..



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