Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

They say nothing more, they have been dead for years ...
To find out what happens, I have to come here
Only the CUN follows the events but very few follow the news of the CUN
The last "children of the stars" conference had 100 visitors on youtube ...
Nobody cares about UFOs ... this is the truth !!!
And I think also in other European countries ...

It's interesting why seemingly only in the US do the governments have a fetish for ufology and ufologists. Maybe the UK too, to a degree, that’s why they sent us Nick Dope, I mean Nick Pope, excuse me.

What we know is these things:

Ufos are a legitimate mystery, worthy of study, and has been studied but present human technology can’t conclusively find any evidence of what the hell it is.

The US government IC has since the early fifties meddled with ufology

Tom DeLonge needs to get back into Rock N roll

TTSA is definitely an insincere psyop

Zondo needs a job

a reply to: peaceinoutz


While there is an interest in the topic in the UK it is nothing like the US. The audience is generally more grounded and follows scientific thinking. America has a much larger UFO culture and a tendency to magical thinking, gullibility and credulity amongst a sizeable minority.

However two notable statistics taken from the Larry Hatch UFO Database (a compilation of sightings taken from UFO literature in the 20th century) is that almost 44% of all recorded sightings came from the USA. Then France with 12%!!



Another factor in Europe is how little overt interference there is from military and ex-military operatives. Obviously there's the former commander of SHADO _ Dick Nope.




But beyond that, you won't find many former members of MI5/6 going on low quality podcasts telling you all about aliens wanting to meet with members of the Royal Family

a reply to: mirageman

low quality podcasts telling you all about aliens wanting to meet with members of the Royal Family

Lol. Never seen more weazel waffle podcasts out there in my life. Even the one who had Linda going waffles to his audience in what seems like his kitchen.

a reply to: mirageman

Well, I don't mean to burst your bubble of scientific superiority, but you brits
and other countries around the world have your own 'wee UFOs' that you believe
in:

According to a new survey, 44 percent of British people claim to have seen fairies. We speak to three women who believe in the little folk. Society has long been enchanted by the thought that small winged beings dwell in our gardens and forests, protecting the trees and flowers they inhabit.

According to a 2007 study by the University of Iceland, an estimated 62% of the nation believe that the existence of elves is more than a fairy tale.

And that's not even mentioning the virgin mary, etc.

SO! The UK, etc, just hs DIFFERENT things that go bump in the night.

Kev

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Now (see lower post) I suppose that other countries could give their fairies little machine
guns or something like that, but nobody would buy that.

In the USA, which is an insane, gun-worshipping culture, with no real historical
culture of their own, other than cowboys with guns blazing and evil robber barons,

It's easy to convince people that alienz/UFOsz wtih beam weapons a blazing,
mutilating cattle etc are real.

Good for military budgets.

Kev

Hey, mates - just saw a "new" PR vapor-piece from our TT$A pals:

No real surprises:
1. We're wished a "Happy New Year" -about SIX weeks late.
2. "Great Things" - will be revealed ..."soon".
3. "New" strategic partnerships are coming ...someday.
4. We can expect, eventually, "Exciting original content" (as opposed to the stale, beat-to-death, one-off content so far).
5. "Stories" are forthcoming, as they expect to support "advancement" of "collective knowledge" about (wait for it...):
...a. scientific "phenomena" and,
...b. "mysteries" of the universe


p.s. BTW - NO MORE "To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science". Forget that boring, unnecessary, academic and science stuff - we're now just going straight "To The Stars", baby! What about their "Exciting NEW Announcement" re 1-5 above? Oh that. That's E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T - monetized 'pursuit of knowledge'. At least this time they didn't preface the "Big Announcement", with a bunch of pre-Announcements about the coming New Announcement, which is about ...what, exactly?


Cheers!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It's true, all of it. You wouldn't believe how much the UK government is covering up about the existence of fairies.

Rick Dope even had a UK TV series about the small folk until he was successfully exported to America. Not saying it was the fairies but it was....

a reply to: Outrageo

I reads as "..we are expanding by cutting back and consolidating". Corporate doublespeak.

But the details will emerge in the annual filings. TTSA is gone and is now what it was before all the spooks climbed aboard.

a reply to: mirageman

Nice work!

Also nice deflection.

Kev

a reply to: Outrageo

Well, I would imagine the reason the science advisory board left would be:

1) not getting paid.
2) not getting the government interested in paying them.
3) what grants they had, for certain projects that were not publicized
widely didn't produce solid enough results to either a) get published in a journal
or b) to make money. i know of several of these projects.. talked to the researcher himself.
4) 'science efforts' that were made public, such as 'metmerials' were laughed off the world stage.

So... it's not surprising that they are now just doing worthless snake-oil media stuff.
It's their real talent/specialty.

Kev

You guys are really cracking me up today…
Yeah, To the Stars is going the way of the dinosaur only to be revived in movies like Jurassic Park.

I predict Delonge will make some kind of movie, or what's the point, just selling T-shirts.

Another point. Where is Levenda’s and his ghostwriters, Tom DeLongs, third book?
And why do they call it
Gods, Man, and War

Okay, I get it, the aliens are the Gods, and the aliens are having a war over man.
So whoever wins loses

a reply to: peaceinoutz

That's funny!

Whomever gets control of the humans is actually the loser!

We are a very nasty unstalbe bunch, I wouldn't want to be
responsible for us, that's for certain.

I'm sure you know, that UFOlogy is an example of a rebellion
against both post modernist deconstructionistm and standard
religion both.

if the UFOs didn't exist, someone would have had to create them,
just like they did with god.... well now actually...

a reply to: mirageman

Didn't Tricky Nicky get accused by his co- author John Burroughs re lying over the book he wrote with him? Philip Mantle is supposedly investigating it .





Hmmmm.

Talking of experts and doofus level YT content.
Watched the Alienscientist interview with the creator of the "who is Lue" doc. and one of them mentioned Sal Pais will be appearing on TOE.....

Couldnt find anything except a vague tweet from a google search here: mobile.twitter.com...

Anyone know anything more?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

In the USA, which is an insane, gun-worshipping culture, with no real historical
culture of their own, other than cowboys with guns blazing and evil robber barons,

Hard to take anyone with such a simplistic and clearly ignorant view of Americans seriously tbh

My my what a distasteful and un provoked rant

I suppose you've forgotten that there had been a whole group of us here long before u lot came over and our culture is quite rich along with many others that came before.......

originally posted by: Jukiodone
Talking of experts and doofus level YT content.
Watched the Alienscientist interview with the creator of the "who is Lue" doc. and one of them mentioned Sal Pais will be appearing on TOE.....

Couldnt find anything except a vague tweet from a google search here: mobile.twitter.com...

Anyone know anything more?

I know is that the Drive quoted a Navy spokesperson on the patents were of now use;

...
Timothy Boulay, Communications Director at NAWCAD, confirmed several points to The War Zone by email:

- The High Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator testing occurred from October 2016 through September 2019;

- The cost was $508,000 over the course of three years. Around ninety percent of the total - $462,000 - was for salaries, while the rest was used for equipment, test preparation, testing and assessment.

- When NAWCAD concluded testing in September 2019, the “Pais Effect” could not be proven.

- No further research has been conducted, and the project has not transitioned to any other government or civilian organization.

While we greatly appreciate the response to our queries, it remains unclear why NAWCAD was unwilling to speak with us until now if they knew all along these experiments resulted in what appears to be a scientific dead-end that resulted in no verification of any of Pais’s theories.

Source

With Pais claiming

...Despite the fact that NAWCAD says the experiments ended in September 2019 without proving the “Pais Effect,” the inventor asserted to The War Zone in a November 18, 2019 email that his work “culminates in the enablement of the Pais Effect” and that “as far as the doubting SMEs [Subject Matter Experts] are concerned, my work shall be proven correct one fine day…”

There's not much beyond that tweet about any interview. The whole story leaves an aroma of something fishy around it.

a reply to: mirageman

Weird.
Kurt's major skill (aside from looking thoughtful) seems to be self promotion so maybe nothing to it.

I know nothing about the validity of Pais claims....but I do know the timing of the Navy's public patents was a highly improbable co-incidence given TTSA's parallel activities and identical proposition (i.e the possibility of a meta material hulled, vacuum polarising space ship).

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Not at all.

Did you see "PrettyBear"?

Native American's were rounded up by European Christians,
who according to the Pope "didn't have souls".

Then most of them were exterminated.

I KNOW Native American's have a rich history.

Their killers not so much.

And it wasn't a rant.

you've never seen me rant apparently.

My comment was about how the culture of violence and death
in the USA has colored the UFO experience for many.

Best,

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Unless aliens and God are one or God and aliens are one

It’s perfectly conceivable that ufo/alien phenom or an aspect of it are this “God” we speak of. To dismiss that would be the height of not seeing the possibilities of reality. Closing one’s eyes to what humans have dealt with since day one, which sociologically, psychologically, scientifically, spiritually (if you will) can’t be dismissed.

Extra-terrestrial, ultra-terrestrial, it's all the same just semantics and subjective impressional illusions and delusions.

It’s all about people’s impressions, which are illusory not realty.

We should never take our impressions, and prejudices as reality( only the possibility of reality--though flawed yet) then we are in a sense indulging in self-worship.