Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I believe life is very miraculous and often mystical but were just used to it.
This is the truth:

When I was in college, one night I drove into the Dunkin Donuts parking lot and parked with the front of my van facing DDs.

When I left DDs the van was parked in a space turned around 180 exactly facing the highway!
No one stole my van or moved it, but to this day, I don’t know how that van got on the other side of the lot while I was buying a light and sweet coffee inside.

Go figure.

I say, most folks have a story like that.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Yes, a lot of folks I've met do.

When I was just getting started in IT, after leaving the Navy, I was driving to work
through the usual quasi-mountainous route.

I was suddenly flooded with a powerful golden presence, and while
I didn't hear any words, I got the sense that if I didn't slam
on the brakes I would die in a few seconds.
So I did.

I slowly made my way forward at like 10 mph around this blind curve, and out
jumped this magnificant buck, who would have likely caused me to crash
and fall off the mountain.

Now.. rationally.. the prosaic explanation is that I unconsciously saw the buck
with periperhal vision, and my unconscious mind decided to save me with the
dramatic experience.

And, I don't claim it was anything more than that.

But it made a real impression on me, for sure.


Kev

According to Keith B's latest blog a number of papers are due to be released on ASWAP and AATIP

"Currently, we are in the process of updating our reading room to provide an estimation of 40 additional records referencing AAWSAP and BAASS. This should be available in the next few weeks."


...No further details are available as to what types of records they might be; they could simply be the remaining 33 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents created by the program; or they could be some of the records listed in "Skinwalkers at the Pentagon." At present, no one knows.

Defense Intelligence Agency says it will shortly release AAWSAP/BAASS UAP related material

This could be as exciting as the build up to the release of the Batman balloon picture in November of 2020!

a reply to: mirageman

I have tried to get a straight answer out of certain individuals
as to why we should take them seriously, when a prior
undersecretary of defense confused a mylar party balloon
with some of the best UFO evidence, in a ptich for people
to give them money.

I wish they would just say, "Yah, that was stupid of us".

On the other hand, some of the very best hard science
research ever done in the field was done by a couple
of the science advisory board.

It's very much a mixed bag.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



IIRC TTSA did issue some sort of statement to correct the error of their ways. It was probably an insta-Twitface message though and Tom probably deleted it soon afterwards.

Here's actually some background on Chris Mellon from 2016. Remember that during 'Nimitz UFO day' he was a Minority Staff Director of the Senate Intelligence Committee for Senator John D. Rockefeller, IV between 2002 and 2004.

...It is unusual for a man of Chris’s stature to speak openly about UFOs, which gives his statements great weight. His positions during the Clinton and Bush administrations involved high clearances; in fact, there are few people who have enjoyed such deep and wide-ranging access to compartmented programs in both the Defense Department (DoD) and the intelligence community....

At DoD, Chris served on a small committee that provided oversight of all DoD special access programs, in order to eliminate potential waste and duplication. The oversight included visits to Area 51 and other sensitive facilities. He also spent over a decade on the Senate Intelligence Committee, involved in oversight of NRO, CIA, NSA and other intelligence organizations. He became the first Congressional official to review all of the NSA’s compartmented programs....

And here's what he had to say about what he found out about UFOs....

I highly doubt DoD or any other government agency is concealing UFO information. I participated in a comprehensive review of DoD’s black programs and spent over a decade conducting oversight of the national foreign intelligence program, an almost totally separate world of secrets. I visited Area 51 and other military, intelligence and research facilities. During all those years, I never detected the faintest hint of government interest or involvement in UFOs.

Huff Post - 5th Sept 2016

I guess Tom changed his mind with his mentally challenged rantings.

I doubt if they release anything. And I also doubt they have anything interesting worth releasing.
Looking at TTSA, it appears they came on the scene with a threat meme perhaps for number one, have a new outlook justifying their existence and catering to the politicians who know threat = demagoguery=votes=sucking the hind part of the MIC. And recall if the DEEP STATE knew Trump would get in and espouse pro-Russian dogma, well then, they have to increase a THREAT meme therefore TTSA was a part and parcel of their continuing not only ufo BS but also MIC BS.

Coincidence TTSA is gone at the same time the Russian threat has increased?

They don’t need aliens now.

a reply to: mirageman

Posts like that are why you and Jack Brewer are two of my favorite
UFO researchers!

It alwyas puzzles me, why someone rational, someone you respect,
suddenly wigs out and does a 180.

We tend to assume some form of personal-interest involved.

But, in my studies of the religous affects of UFOlogy, all it takes
is ONE incident, and a staunch skeptic can become a blubbering
imbecile..

Perhaps Mr. Mellon was told about the biological damage done to
people visiting SWR and at other 'UFO' sites, and that convinced
him.

Something like that.

I don't know.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Aliens are the new god.

We will always need them, until AI becomes the next god.

Someone will always play the UFO card.

But yes, a decent point you have there.

It's this sort of thing, that whips up the warmongers and turns
some skeptics into believers, or at least starts the process
towards becoming 'a believer':

A Look Inside People's Brains

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You’re an IT guy so you know AI is NOT new nor is this metaverse stuff. It’s recycled to make more money, after all.

We do have to give TTSA grudging credit, they haven’t as of yet jumped on the alien bandwagon. Now, that in itself may tell us some things if we think about it.

a reply to: mirageman

Of course, he changed his mind for this operation.

I can forgive them for being dense now and then regarding the balloon incident, but what I don’t easily forgive, and I don’t think anyone else should, is deception.

So, this guy was an ultimate insider, so if anything is going on he should know or have a hint.
He was the perfect guy for joining the TTSA operation. The fact that he has all kinds of inconsistencies is easily glossed over for the public is not ever consistently demanding of public figures being honest and consistent.

But after saying what you quote, for this guy to come out with the very opposite view is revealing. And as I remind often, he’s another ex- IC guy retired and who happens to latch on to ufology. He is bigger or was much more than the average IC Zondo level spook.

Maybe it’s a coincidence all these ex- IC agents particularly the CIA retire and go into ufology.
But I doubt it.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

"Maybe it’s a coincidence all these ex- IC agents particularly the CIA retire and go into ufology.
But I doubt it."

This is one of the reasons I believe MKULTRA is still an active program.

You see, 'aliens & UFOs' are space Jesus for Atheists.

The government has alway been jealous of the Catholic Church,
as the Catholic Church did create a system to pacify troublesome
jews, and even have thier god say "obey ceasar" and "pay taxes to
ceasar". Quite convenient to have god on your saying that.

But I digress.

People hurt existentially, as it's a big confusing Unvierse, that frankly
has over 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
of it being deadly hostile to human or any life for that matter,
and humans cannot innately & arrurately intuit much of anything.

So religion, in the guise of 'UFOs' is a powerful tool, that no experienced
mind-manipulator could leave alone.

'UFOs' are the one form of god, that and AI, that has not been land-rushed,
like an internet domain name.

That said, there really DOES seem to be 'something' to 'some of this', much
to the chagrin of the deceiving con men.

Kev

This link is worthy of a multi page post all on it's own;
but I will post it here, so I don't let it fly past entirely:forgotten:

thehermeticpenetrator.medium.com...

Yes, there's BS and such in everything... but I am already familiar wtih this
whole topic of baiting.. quite familiar.

Now.. I know that it sounds purely preposterous to assume that the US military
is 'baiting UFOs'. I won't put that foward as a theory.

On the other hand, I have had long conersations with some of thee folks, about how
'UFOs' sometimes like to mimic our technology.. various people have put foward
that 'crackpot' theory.

But in any case, whether people/organizations really ARE 'baiting UFOs'
with technology, that some people involved believe in the premise,
is certainly fascinating.

a reply to: mirageman

Maybe he's telling the truth.....theres nothing in Mellons resume to suggest he would be (officially) briefed on anything more secret than SAP's.
He probably isnt going to hear about unacknowledged SAP's- and he certainly wouldn't be briefed on Waived Unacknowledged SAP's.
The contractor based carve outs go without saying.

Although exotic propulsion is one output of the kind of tech.(now seemingly universally) agreed upon as the source of the ET threat ....you dont get there without first knowing how to access massive amounts of "free energy" and then you get some extinction level event weaponry as a direct consequence.

Secrets, probably far too important to entrust to transient political appointees or their staff.

Now if the question was - did Mellon perhaps at some point catch a whiff of what might be going on outside of his purview.....this seems more realistic in his current role of rabble rouser cum town crier.

Obviously he cant risk federal pen. by breaking his secrecy oath- so he has to enter story telling mode with it's muddy booted alienz stalking horse.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Could be he was kept away from such things. According to BF Lue that's exactly what happened.



See : Twitter AMA 5th Oct 2020

The question I would have here is the how and why as to how Mellon found this UFO Program inside the US government between the time he gave his interview to Huff Post in 2016 and joining TTSA in October 2017. According to his own website.... "Mr. Mellon has been working as a private equity investor engaged in biotech and information technology start-ups."

So not just why? But how is a man who left government service in 2004 snooping around the Pentagon for a UFO project? More to the point why was he successful in finding it?

We aren't being told the full truth here are we?

a reply to: mirageman

The 'truth' that something akin to Boltzmann brains run amok
in the sea of virtual particles and Hilbert space, and all
human fixations and conceptions are mere twaddle..

that human-understood space-time is every bit as much a
'projection' as the UFOs and UAPs, just a different 'channel'
that from a certain persepctive almost NOTHING is real..

Let's say that was what was being kept secret... and it
could quite logically be known by the US government,
as some of the brightest minds ever to live worked
for the government with quantum mechanics on the
Atom bomb.

What would one do with that sort of information?
Go insane is generally what would happen I'd
imagine..

That would certainly explain why the USG doesn't
get excited about 'UFOs' and at best uses them
for psychological purposes.

Now why someone broke confidentiality with Mr. Mellon,
I can't say. I'd be very surpried if there was a paper trail.

And I almost forgot. Too many podcasts make Lue a dumb boy.

On Jimmy Church he talked about a report in Britain's trashiest tabloid.... The Sun Online.

BF Lue : .... you're just now now seeing some of this information come to fruition.

Let me let me share with you a headline just today with your readers that came out and normally I wouldn't do this. But this is important! Listen to this headline okay.

Life Beyond - NSA Warns Aliens Could Contact Humans Through High Frequency Signals as Experts Warn We're Not Alone in the Universe

... a declassified document from the NSA titled "Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence", explains the various methods aliens could use to communicate.

Now this is a headline that came out from the NSA. It was a classified document. But I am certain, because we're now having this conversation publicly, it has been declassified. It is now in the public sphere.

Now think about that that's just one example from the NSA... if nobody in the government was looking at ufos, then why would the NSA write a classified report titled Communication with Extraterrestrials Intelligence"

Source :FTB Ep.1571

The document referred to by the Sun was actually part of an internal exercise in cryptography and released many years ago without ever being classified.

It has been discussed on ATS before in 2008 and a number of times since.

But let's chalk that one up with the Mylar balloon, Lue's claim that thousands saw and photographed the 1952 UFO sightings over Washington and claiming an ad for UFO artwork was a bonafide file from Italy on different type of alien craft on his TV show. Everyone makes mistakes hey?

a reply to: mirageman

There certainly seems to be a huge disconnect between
the biologists, pathologists, viruologists and other
"UFO experts" working behind the scenes, and those
who put forward twaddle.. even as (supposedly)
members of the same group.

Almost makes one think that some 'living thing' was
leaving a trail in human tissue... cough*

it's quite the freak show.

JV talked about more recent events a bit around 1:45 at this link:

scholarship.rice.edu...

It's nothing Earth-shaking, but he's honest about governments
faking UFOs, and it doesn't come across as some sales pitch
of any kind.

I don't know if you all know, but Rice University is the instituation
where all his papers are being transferred, and locked down for
10 years.

I work with a professor at Rice University on and off, so I came
across this video just yesterday.

Kev