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originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, August 26, 2020
Thank-goodness we have easy access to raw data, so we don't have to rely on the official "News" sources, like we have in the past.
Recently the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) added a little blurb to their Covid-19 "comorbidity" data page that says...
Source and Tables at: www.cdc.gov...
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.
For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
The CDC guidelines for labeling someone as a Covid-19 death are very lax. Medical professionals are allowed to Guess/Presume that a deceased person had Covid-19 at the time of death.*
*See Page 2 / Fifth paragraph down on the left at: www.cdc.gov...
If only 6% of the official 161,392 U.S. Covid-19 deaths are Covid19-ONLY deaths, it makes you wonder how large of a role, if any, Covid-19 played in the 94% (151,708) who died with multiple medical conditions.
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Justoneman
Meanwhile Germany is going to rally against the Fake Vaccine!
RFKJr to be at largest Antivaccine rally perhaps ever in the world 2.5- 6 million expected in Berlin
Crowd estimates about 18,000.
Little way short of 6 million.
originally posted by: Rob808
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Justoneman
Meanwhile Germany is going to rally against the Fake Vaccine!
RFKJr to be at largest Antivaccine rally perhaps ever in the world 2.5- 6 million expected in Berlin
Crowd estimates about 18,000.
Little way short of 6 million.
And you want to talk about superiority complexes...
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Justoneman
Meanwhile Germany is going to rally against the Fake Vaccine!
RFKJr to be at largest Antivaccine rally perhaps ever in the world 2.5- 6 million expected in Berlin
Crowd estimates about 18,000.
Little way short of 6 million.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Justoneman
Meanwhile Germany is going to rally against the Fake Vaccine!
RFKJr to be at largest Antivaccine rally perhaps ever in the world 2.5- 6 million expected in Berlin
Crowd estimates about 18,000.
Little way short of 6 million.
You are way wrong! Not 6 million, agreed but not a puny # either.
Link
Tell me that was 18k now!
Look, there are that many standing just around the statue.
Yes the article said 18k but they are wrong.
originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OMG ! I will help you if you'll let me ? Are you willing to spend 7 minutes of your life that will undoubtedly open your eyes to the reality of events that you understandably & blindly allow yourself be led on what you assume is" best evidence available and consistent with the views of the overwhelming majority of medical and scientific experts ."
You don't know any better & we were all there at some point in time so for yourself & all those you love go to site
Childrens Health Defence & watch the 6'ish minute video titled " The Jab ".
Watch it without your blinkers & really listen to what happened only a decade ago & incredibly is still a factor today. Try your hardest to disprove any single fact in there. You will not be able to.
No thanks or apologies needed after you have but silently acknowledge that there are so many who have been awakened to the reality of the world we live in, same as you will be & spread the info. far & wide.
7 mins. champ can you do that ?
If you can.......no probs. you're welcome.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OMG ! I will help you if you'll let me ? Are you willing to spend 7 minutes of your life that will undoubtedly open your eyes to the reality of events that you understandably & blindly allow yourself be led on what you assume is" best evidence available and consistent with the views of the overwhelming majority of medical and scientific experts ."
You don't know any better & we were all there at some point in time so for yourself & all those you love go to site
Childrens Health Defence & watch the 6'ish minute video titled " The Jab ".
Watch it without your blinkers & really listen to what happened only a decade ago & incredibly is still a factor today. Try your hardest to disprove any single fact in there. You will not be able to.
No thanks or apologies needed after you have but silently acknowledge that there are so many who have been awakened to the reality of the world we live in, same as you will be & spread the info. far & wide.
7 mins. champ can you do that ?
If you can.......no probs. you're welcome.
The topic of this thread isn't vaccinations.
However good to know my point earlier about views based on fringe web sites and YouTube videos was correct.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OMG ! I will help you if you'll let me ? Are you willing to spend 7 minutes of your life that will undoubtedly open your eyes to the reality of events that you understandably & blindly allow yourself be led on what you assume is" best evidence available and consistent with the views of the overwhelming majority of medical and scientific experts ."
You don't know any better & we were all there at some point in time so for yourself & all those you love go to site
Childrens Health Defence & watch the 6'ish minute video titled " The Jab ".
Watch it without your blinkers & really listen to what happened only a decade ago & incredibly is still a factor today. Try your hardest to disprove any single fact in there. You will not be able to.
No thanks or apologies needed after you have but silently acknowledge that there are so many who have been awakened to the reality of the world we live in, same as you will be & spread the info. far & wide.
7 mins. champ can you do that ?
If you can.......no probs. you're welcome.
The topic of this thread isn't vaccinations.
However good to know my point earlier about views based on fringe web sites and YouTube videos was correct.
So no you won't educate yourself so you have a better understanding?
CHECK......
hmmm🤦♂️
originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, August 26, 2020
Thank-goodness we have easy access to raw data, so we don't have to rely on the official "News" sources, like we have in the past.
Recently the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) added a little blurb to their Covid-19 "comorbidity" data page that says...
Source and Tables at: www.cdc.gov...
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.
For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
The CDC guidelines for labeling someone as a Covid-19 death are very lax. Medical professionals are allowed to Guess/Presume that a deceased person had Covid-19 at the time of death.*
*See Page 2 / Fifth paragraph down on the left at: www.cdc.gov...
If only 6% of the official 161,392 U.S. Covid-19 deaths are Covid19-ONLY deaths, it makes you wonder how large of a role, if any, Covid-19 played in the 94% (151,708) who died with multiple medical conditions.
-CareWeMust
I, and many others on here, called this out months ago.
Not surprising but it is downright scary. The libs in blue states weaponized mortality to paint a false narrative and screw up a whole bunch of stuff for their own - perceived - political gain.
Spread the data CareWeMust shares here far and wide folks - direct anyone you can to this link from the CDC.
The masses need to know they’ve been lied to.
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust
Look, I got one of my guys in his 30s in the hospital that has lost half his heart function due to covid attacking his heart and other organs.
Yeah, Covid might not kill him but the damage covid did to his heart may.
originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, August 26, 2020
Thank-goodness we have easy access to raw data, so we don't have to rely on the official "News" sources, like we have in the past.
Recently the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) added a little blurb to their Covid-19 "comorbidity" data page that says...
Source and Tables at: www.cdc.gov...
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.
For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
The CDC guidelines for labeling someone as a Covid-19 death are very lax. Medical professionals are allowed to Guess/Presume that a deceased person had Covid-19 at the time of death.*
*See Page 2 / Fifth paragraph down on the left at: www.cdc.gov...
If only 6% of the official 161,392 U.S. Covid-19 deaths are Covid19-ONLY deaths, it makes you wonder how large of a role, if any, Covid-19 played in the 94% (151,708) who died with multiple medical conditions.
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, August 26, 2020
Thank-goodness we have easy access to raw data, so we don't have to rely on the official "News" sources, like we have in the past.
Recently the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) added a little blurb to their Covid-19 "comorbidity" data page that says...
Source and Tables at: www.cdc.gov...
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.
For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
The CDC guidelines for labeling someone as a Covid-19 death are very lax. Medical professionals are allowed to Guess/Presume that a deceased person had Covid-19 at the time of death.*
*See Page 2 / Fifth paragraph down on the left at: www.cdc.gov...
If only 6% of the official 161,392 U.S. Covid-19 deaths are Covid19-ONLY deaths, it makes you wonder how large of a role, if any, Covid-19 played in the 94% (151,708) who died with multiple medical conditions.
-CareWeMust
I, and many others on here, called this out months ago.
Not surprising but it is downright scary. The libs in blue states weaponized mortality to paint a false narrative and screw up a whole bunch of stuff for their own - perceived - political gain.
Spread the data CareWeMust shares here far and wide folks - direct anyone you can to this link from the CDC.
The masses need to know they’ve been lied to.
originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: carewemust
I am a healthcare provider, and as such I have gone through multiple different phases of thinking about COVID-19 since it came to our attention last December.
At the start, we were losing 50% of all COVID patients that were admitted to the ICU at my hospital. It was VERY concerning. Our care is better now that we have learned a few things. We are admitting proportionally fewer patients with COVID to our ICU, and of those, now we are only losing 20%.
Also surprising: we have more patients sick in the community presently, but they are suffering less serious disease. I don't feel like this is worth keeping the country (countries?) locked down for, anymore. We are managing COVID well now, IMHO. It was nice to have a 'pause' earlier, but we have enough PPE stacked to move forward.
It isn't a 'hoax' per se, IMHO, but I do believe it is currently being exaggerated as a bigger threat than the reality we are witnessing, and that reality has changed.
Sure, it can kill you, it has long lasting effects on some people, and it is unpleasant for anyone who gets symptoms, regardless. I know more than 20 people who have had this by now. A few really got their *sses kicked, and some will probably never be the same as before, but none of the ones I know died (yet). Most of us will probably even get it more than once (different strains?). It isn't going away, probably ever. An anesthesiologist friend of mine quipped recently: "Consider it a permanent member of the pantheon of viruses we are apt to get from year to year from now on … forever".
But, COVID-19 can be mitigated at this point. Nutrition is perhaps most important, but the FDA and CDC are not talking about that! Also, the cheap drugs that help are being ignored in favor of the more expensive ones. The cheap drugs are the ones to take first, and if it works out, taking the cheaper drugs first can prevent progression to 'serious' stage disease for most people. Why is this knowledge being overlooked?
Perhaps greedy people have greedy motives, I am afraid.