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originally posted by: angelchemuel
Just mulling moving forwards, regardless of whether this was an accident or planned.
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
originally posted by: charlyv
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: charlyv
This is not just your average Arab shipping port. Is it supposed to be world class because of all the different ships loading and unloading there. It is above stupid to have these kinds of materials in close proximity there, and it is so bad, perhaps it was planned that way and few knew about it.
This was such a violation of maritime ergonomics and safety that if any of the major shippers that frequented the place, knew it was being run like that, they would make it public knowledge and boycotted the place until it was fixed.
It will be interesting to hear the story from the management in charge of the port, if they are still alive.
People are "above stupid" and violate safety protocols all the time. That's how these kinds of accidents happen. You'll hear this over and over in HAZMAT training. Most of these kinds of accidents/disasters are caused by negligence and/or human error, and an unlikely sequence of events.
Like I used to tell my Airmen, just because you can't imagine something happening doesn't mean it can't. Real life is more imaginative than you are.
In a smaller, unprofessional port, I would agree, however this is the big time and the kind of person that would be in charge of an operation like this would understand HAZMAT protocols and never have this kind of material near an active load and unload station. Something is fishy for sure, or it was a planned attack? Lots more info will come out.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Again, this was very early on. It's also Trump we're talking about. He jumps the gun and spread unconfirmed stuff a lot. I can imagine it going something like this:
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
Tell me that's not very Trumpesque?
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Again, this was very early on. It's also Trump we're talking about. He jumps the gun and spread unconfirmed stuff a lot. I can imagine it going something like this:
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
Tell me that's not very Trumpesque?
It was a planned attack/assassination to take out Secretary-General Nazar Najarian....similar to the attack in 2005 in the same area.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Again, this was very early on. It's also Trump we're talking about. He jumps the gun and spread unconfirmed stuff a lot. I can imagine it going something like this:
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
Tell me that's not very Trumpesque?
It was a planned attack/assassination to take out Secretary-General Nazar Najarian....similar to the attack in 2005 in the same area.
That's preposterous. Sure, we have to destroy half a city to get one guy.
You guys really need to put your thinking caps on.
ETA: Maybe THIS is why ATS is going downhill. The quality of conspiracy theories here is horrible anymore. "Here's my pet theory with zero evidence, but it's not physically impossible so we must take it seriously!"
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Again, this was very early on. It's also Trump we're talking about. He jumps the gun and spread unconfirmed stuff a lot. I can imagine it going something like this:
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
Tell me that's not very Trumpesque?
It was a planned attack/assassination to take out Secretary-General Nazar Najarian....similar to the attack in 2005 in the same area.
That's preposterous. Sure, we have to destroy half a city to get one guy.
You guys really need to put your thinking caps on.
ETA: Maybe THIS is why ATS is going downhill. The quality of conspiracy theories here is horrible anymore. "Here's my pet theory with zero evidence, but it's not physically impossible so we must take it seriously!"
Preposterous? Do you even know about the 2005 assassination? ATS is going downhill because of folks that don't do their homework. You should do some.....let me know how preposterous it sounds after you read about the one in 2005.....
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: face23785
who said it was a nuke?
Did you read the thread. Several people have suggested it could be nuclear.
i honestly must have missed it, this thread is growing pretty fast.
what do you think the small explosions were before the big detonation?
why would the US pres say that if it wasnt true, surly he has better intel than most 'DoD officials' making statements to the press
Again, this was very early on. It's also Trump we're talking about. He jumps the gun and spread unconfirmed stuff a lot. I can imagine it going something like this:
Advisor: "Mr. President, there's been an explosion in Beirut. Details are sketchy right now."
Trump: "Could it have been a terrorist attack?"
Advisor: "It's possible, but we really don't know much yet."
-Trump sees the press a little while later, still not having heard any additional details-
Trump (to press): "Yeah, they told me it was an attack."
Tell me that's not very Trumpesque?
It was a planned attack/assassination to take out Secretary-General Nazar Najarian....similar to the attack in 2005 in the same area.
That's preposterous. Sure, we have to destroy half a city to get one guy.
You guys really need to put your thinking caps on.
ETA: Maybe THIS is why ATS is going downhill. The quality of conspiracy theories here is horrible anymore. "Here's my pet theory with zero evidence, but it's not physically impossible so we must take it seriously!"
Preposterous? Do you even know about the 2005 assassination? ATS is going downhill because of folks that don't do their homework. You should do some.....let me know how preposterous it sounds after you read about the one in 2005.....
It's preposterous because you literally made it up out of thin air. There's zero indication that that's what happened.
You caused the explosion. I have just as much evidence for that as you do that it was an assassination.
Zero is always equal to zero.
ETA: And for the record, this is way bigger than the 2005 incident. The two are not comparable.