Whose World is This?

History says those sharpest spear or arrow are the ones who control the land. Even the idiot Mao knew all power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Now with technology the gun is always in the background and carried by the enforcers to bend the people to the will of the government or society. There are good and certainly corrupt societies, states, nations, all over the world; all we pedestrians can do is live our lives and try to avoid any governmental or enforcer entanglements..

a reply to: olaru12

What if I tell you Caucasians are actually genetically Asians that evolved differently, but they keep denying it and think there is a white racial superiority? What if I tell you US is built by different races technologically, not White in which the Nazi's would want you to believe, so they can divide Humankind further before takeover? What if Nazi's are part of an alien ultimatum agenda to keep humans divided so it would make it easier to takeover the planet? Remember those conspiracy of Nazi UFO in Antarctica and Grey aliens? It's all planned out.

This also means groups like KKK are just making it much easier to divide Humankind before takeover.

Whose World Is This?

The follow the money thing.

Indexers control the world. The companies that own the banks that own the companies, with capital assets that mock even hedge funds, far surpassing entire modern first world counties GDP.

For reference Amazon's Net Worth is 160.4 Billion.

The Big Three (circa 2017)

Lower fees aside, the rise of index funds has entailed a massive concentration of corporate ownership. Together, BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street have nearly US$11 trillion in assets under management. That’s more than all sovereign wealth funds combined and over three times the global hedge fund industry.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Lysergic

I'd say you were wrong

Genetically Native Americans are Asian.

www.the-scientist.com...

Well it looks like most agree with you on this point so I'll concede this one, but perhaps in that case my genetically Asian husband and kids then have restored justice by returning to their ancestral homeland and reacquiring this one humble plot.

Now if only we could convince the banks of this point.

Obviously God owns the planet.
.. but not you
The usurper has you all enslaved with money.
So the pillars will fall ,...
God has the universe's largest gun

originally posted by: radarloveguy
Obviously God owns the planet.
.. but not you
The usurper has you all enslaved with money.
So the pillars will fall ,...
God has the universe's largest gun

Ya, no. What God are you talking about though?

Some 60 years after Christ’s encounter with the Devil, the apostle John reminded Christians of the Devil’s powerful influence, saying that “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” That one, John also said, “is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (1 John 5:19; Revelation 12:9) Clearly, the Bible speaks of an invisible spirit as “the ruler of the world.” (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11)

The World’s Secret Ruler Exposed

“THE ruler of this world will be cast out,” said Jesus to the people on one occasion. Later, he added that ‘the ruler of the world had no hold on him’ and that “the ruler of this world has been judged.” (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11) Of whom was Jesus speaking?

Considering what Jesus was saying about “the ruler of this world,” it is obvious that he could not have been referring to his Father, Jehovah God. Who, then, is “the ruler of this world”? How will he be “cast out,” and how has he been “judged”?

“The Ruler of This World” Reveals Himself

Just as a master criminal often takes pride in boasting about his power, so did the Devil when tempting Jesus, the Son of God. After showing Jesus “all the kingdoms” of the world, Satan made him this offer: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”​—Luke 4:5-7.

If the Devil were merely a principle of evil, as some have suggested, how could that temptation be explained? Was Jesus being tempted by some evil thought or by some inner turmoil that possibly followed his baptism? If so, how could it be said that “there is no sin in him”? (1 John 3:5) Far from denying the Devil’s power over mankind, Jesus actually confirmed it by speaking of him as “the ruler of the world,” describing him as “a murderer” and “a liar.”​—John 14:30; 8:44; The New Jerusalem Bible.

. . . But what is the extent of his influence over mankind?

The World Ruler Delegates Power to Associates

Writing about the Christians’ fight for the faith, the apostle Paul clearly identified their worst enemies. “We have a wrestling,” he candidly said, “not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12) Thus, this fight goes beyond the human sphere, since it is carried out, “not against blood and flesh,” but against “wicked spirit forces.”

According to most modern Bible translations, “the wicked spirit forces” here refer, not to an abstract principle of evil, but to powerful wicked spirit persons. . . .

Song 62 To Whom do you Belong Vocal Renditions (playlist with context)

Jesus said to them: “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I have not come of my own initiative, but that One sent me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? Because you cannot listen to* [Or “accept.”] my word. You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. Because I, on the other hand, tell you the truth, you do not believe me. Who of you convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it that you do not believe me? The one who is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why you do not listen, because you are not from God.” (John 8:42-47)

Especially that last bolded part is applicable to those who speak a lot about the so-called “new world order” with very little understanding of how the world really works and what's really going on or important to realize in connection with that term (or the “elite”, “TPTB”, “the establishment”, “the illuminati”, “the deep state”, “the globalists”, etc.*).

*: none of these terminologies, and their accompanying distracting connotations, inform you of the real threats to your minds and thinking out there, your real spiritual enemy. Nor do they contain what the apostle Paul referred to as “beneficial teaching” (2Tim 4:3,4) concerning the more important things to realize and understand, the truths that matter most:

False Religion (a.k.a. Babylon the Great) is a Snare and a Racket (playlist)



Coming back on the ending of this video or recording (the link to the playlist is further above):

Some 3500 years ago, Moses reminded the Israelites of the choice before them: “I take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today that I have put life and death before you, the blessing and the curse; and you must choose life so that you may live, you and your descendants, by loving Jehovah your God, by listening to his voice, and by sticking to him, for he is your life and by him you will endure a long time in the land that Jehovah swore to give to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” (Deuteronomy 30:19,20)

a reply to: makemap

Ya, no. What God are you talking about though?

Probably Shiva. After you rule out; Sumerian, Babylonian, Egyptian, Akaadian, and Phoenician (for being locally superseded by each-other or monotheism) the Vedas are the oldest texts (1500 BCE) remaining. They have 300 years on the Old Testement, so it must take godly provenance among still active gods.

Plus, if you read what the role of Shiva is, it's pretty close to the aeonic (cyclical) nature of the world. He's sorta like Old Testament God in its ruthless mandala resets of civilization. A lesser credit to his wife Kali, but I still have to go with Shiva.

originally posted by: makemap
a reply to: radarloveguy

Ya, no. What God are you talking about though?

Probably not the actual “god of this system of things” (2 Corinthians 4:4).

The Devil Is “the Ruler of the World” (1968)

ARE you shocked at the statement that the Devil is “the ruler of the world,” that he is the ruler of the nations of Christendom as well as of all other nations of the world? Perhaps you believe sincerely that man’s Creator holds that position. It is true that all mankind are accountable to God, but the Devil is the one who is using the nations to do his bidding. Consider the facts.

The fruitage of the Creator’s holy spirit is, according to his written Word, “love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.” (Gal. 5:22, 23) Is this the fruitage that the nations have been producing? Look at the sanguinary record they have established just since 1914—over 35 million persons killed in two world wars, not to mention the dead from many smaller wars. Consider the frightful brutality that man has shown to man in such places as Nazi and Communist concentration camps. Look at the vicious murders and other crimes reported daily in the newspapers, and consider the general collapse of good moral standards. Is this the fruitage of God’s spirit, or is it instead the type of fruitage to be expected from a world ruled by the Devil?

Of course, there are persons who refuse to believe that the Devil even exists. Their attitude might be compared with that of certain American public officials who, at one time, refused to believe in the existence of the notorious Mafia or Cosa Nostra. Their disbelief facilitated the operations of that crime syndicate. The same is true with Satan the Devil. One of his most effective weapons is to induce people to believe that he does not exist. Notwithstanding the disbelief of prominent men of the world, God’s inspired Word testifies that the Devil does exist and is, in fact, the ruler of this world. Jesus Christ himself spoke of the Devil as “the ruler of the world,” as recorded at John 14:30, and said that this ruler had no hold on him. This in itself shows that “the ruler of the world” could not be Jesus’ Father, man’s Creator. Consider also the Scriptural account about the occasion when Satan the Devil offered Jesus Christ all the kingdoms of the world in return for worship. He could make such an offer because he was their ruler.—Matt. 4:8, 9.

Regarding this wicked spirit creature who made himself the chief slanderer of Jehovah God, the Bible states that he “was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.” (John 8:44) Does not the world show the same traits? Murders in the cities, slayings on battlefields, lies at international peace tables all reflect his traits.

USES INNOCENT-APPEARING FRONTS

. . .

BLINDS MANKIND

The “ruler of the world,” who is also called “the god of this system of things,” is shown by the Bible to be the great blinder of men’s minds with respect to the King of God’s kingdom, Jesus Christ. That kingdom is mankind’s only certain hope for righteous rulers and permanent peace, but the Devil does not want people to trust in it. (Isa. 9:6, 7; Dan. 2:44) God’s Word states at 2 Corinthians 4:4: “The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” Who else could this god be but the Devil?—Eph. 2:2; 2 Thess. 2:9, 10.

Do not reason that there are only a few misguided ones who are in the power of the Devil. As god and ruler of the world his influence affects the majority of mankind. The Bible testifies to this at 1 John 5:19 by saying that “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” And Revelation 12:9 says that he is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” That the Devil’s influence is earth-wide is evident from the general thinking, actions and immoral traits of the world.

Are you so different from the majority of mankind that you can say that they are serving the Devil but that you are serving the true God? There is a people who are that different, and everyone knows they are different and no part of the world. . . .

Song 141 Searching for Friends of Peace (playlist)

a reply to: olaru12

Genetically Native Americans are Asian.

Back in the early 80's while attending Prairie View University, a
professor challenged his class with a research project.
They were to find evidence of any slave vessel that might
have been used to ferry slaves from anywhere in Africa
to anywhere in North or South America.

At the conclusion I'll never forget what was stated by
said professor. "The only truth you should ever accept
is that which you've taken the time to research
yourself.

a reply to: zosimov

Every person sees a different perspective of the world, Almost 8 billion perspectives with a different world for each.
Currently many of us are living in the world's of madmen because how they want you to see the world is very different from how they see it.

Those at the top that push the buttons and control the narrative to our detriment do not like us, in fact they FKing despise us....
Their methods are ancient, fear controls.
Laugh at fear because there is truly nothing else for it. Fear regarding the current plandemic is not only bad for your energy systems but it is totally irrational, and if you think about it you will see this.

a reply to: whereislogic

There is only one way to create more love.... And that is by increasing its negative opposite.

originally posted by: OutTheBox
a reply to: zosimov
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What Obstructs Universal Brotherhood? (Awake!—1981)

IN 1469 C.E. a man named Niccolò Machiavelli was born in Florence, Italy. He wrote a book on politics entitled “The Prince,” using as a model Cesare Borgia, son of Pope Alexander VI. Borgia, according to one historian, was “an artist in ‘power politics,’ using without scruple and remorse such measure of force or fraud as may enable him to extend and secure his conquests.”

The Encyclopædia Britannica says that Machiavelli “founded the science of politics for the modern world.” “Machiavellianism” is now a word meaning the political principle “that any means however lawless or unscrupulous” may be used by a ruler to maintain his power.

Such politics has plagued this 20th century. Wars, coups, corruption, horrible violence and terrorism are all manifestations of it. Politics divides the East from the West. It divides nations, cities (such as Berlin) and even families. Politics is one of the most divisive influences of mankind.

Closely related to such politics and often exploited by political leaders is the spirit of . . .

Nationalism

On this subject an amusing story is told about an army chaplain in Scotland who, at a new military camp, asked for volunteers to convert an old barn into a chapel. In the absence of the chaplain the volunteers painted in large letters above the altar: “Scotland forever and ever.” The surprised chaplain asked them to make the sign a bit more religious. They did. The inscription then read: “Scotland forever and ever. AMEN.”

Scotsmen are known for being very proud of their country. But they are not alone in this. For example, English children, especially in the days when the British Empire was dominant in the world, were fed nationalistic fervor from earliest childhood. They were taught to believe that ‘Britannia Rules the Waves,’ and that the English are a superior nation, blessed by God.

In every nation similar feelings are promoted by politicians who know that a strong nationalistic spirit serves their purposes well. But their purpose may not be in the best interest of people. In an article entitled “Nationalism Is Alien to True Patriotism,” columnist Sydney J. Harris observed: “Nationalism means ‘going along’ with a Hitler or a Stalin or any other tyrant who waves the flag, mouths obscene devotion to the Fatherland, and meanwhile tramples the rights of people.”

Too, as the story of the chapel in Scotland shows, nationalism and religion often go together. Wrote Dr. Robert L. Kahn, a rabbi: “Religion and Nationalism always tend to go hand in hand. In times of war, particularly, . . . ‘For God and Country’ becomes a sort of battle cry. This has always been so. [In World War II] one of the popular songs was the war-whoop of a chaplain, ‘Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.”’

. . .

Racism

. . .

Those who suffer because of racism in Africa or elsewhere can be glad that they were not Jews living in Germany under the Nazi regime. Looking back, it seems incredible that in a country of Christendom, under a leader (Hitler) who was a Roman Catholic, millions of Jews, people of Slavic origin and others were massacred because of their nationality.

The fact that such atrocities were committed by people forming a part of Christendom raises doubts as to whether that system of religion is genuine. Is it, instead, a colossal fraud? Let us carefully consider the effects that the religions of this world have upon true brotherhood.

Next page: How Has Religion Affected Brotherhood? (Awake!—1981)

Fascism: Government by dictatorship, marked by State control of the economy, social regimentation, and an ideology of belligerent nationalism; Nazism: Fascism as practiced by the National Socialist German Workers’ Party under Hitler.

THE word “Fascism” generally conjures up images of black-shirted Italian military squads and of swastika-bearing, brown-uniformed German storm troopers. But other countries have had their experiences with Fascism too.

During the 1930’s, Fascism gained prominence in Hungary, Romania, and Japan. During the Spanish Civil War, Fascist support helped Francisco Franco gain control of Spain, although most historians do not view Franco’s dictatorship (1939-75) as having been genuinely Fascist in nature. The Argentine dictatorship established by Juan D. Perón (1943-55), on the other hand, was.

Worshiping the State

“Fascism” comes from the Italian word fascio and refers to an ancient Roman symbol of authority. Called fasces in Latin, it was a bundle of rods from which the blade of an ax projected, an apt symbol of the unity of the people under the supreme authority of the State.

Although some of the roots of Fascism go back to the time of Niccolò Machiavelli, not until 1919, or 450 years after that one’s birth, did Benito Mussolini use the word for the first time. The political corruption of his day, Machiavelli claimed, could only be overcome by an authoritarian ruler, one who would exercise power ruthlessly but with prudence.

A Fascist government needs just such a strong, opportunistic, and charismatic leader if it is to be effective. Appropriately, both Mussolini and Hitler were known simply as “the leader”​—Il Duce and der Führer.

Fascism elevates the State above all other authority, both religious and civil. French jurist Jean Bodin of the 16th century, English philosopher Thomas Hobbes of the 17th, as well as 18th- and 19th-century German philosophers Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, and Heinrich von Treitschke, all glorified the State. Hegel taught that the State occupies a position of supremacy and that the individual’s supreme duty is to be its loyal supporter.

By their very nature, all governments must exercise authority. But Fascist states are designed to exercise it to the utmost, demanding blind obedience. Viewing humans as little more than slaves of the State, Treitschke said: “It does not matter what you think, so long as you obey.” Typically, Fascism replaced the cry, “Liberty, equality, fraternity,” heard during the French Revolution, with the Italian slogan, “To believe, to obey, to fight.”

Fascism Glorifies War

To fight? Yes! “War alone brings up to their highest tension all human energies and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have the courage to meet it,” Mussolini once said, adding: “War is to the man what maternity is to the woman.” He called perpetual peace “depressing and a negation of all the fundamental virtues of man.” In saying these words, Mussolini was simply mirroring the views of Treitschke, who contended that war was a necessity and that banishing it from the world, besides being profoundly immoral, “would involve the atrophy of many of the essential and sublime forces of the human soul.”

Against this background of war and dictatorship, we may not be surprised to learn that many historians trace the beginning of modern Fascism back to Napoléon I of France. Dictator during the early 1800’s, he was admittedly no Fascist himself. Nevertheless, many of his policies, such as the establishment of a secret-police system and the skillful use of propaganda and censorship to control the press, were later adopted by the Fascists. And certainly his determination to restore the glory of France is typical of the obsession with national greatness for which Fascist leaders have become known.

By 1922 the Fascists in Italy were powerful enough to install Mussolini as prime minister, a position he quickly used as a stepping-stone to being a dictator. As far as wages, hours, and production goals were concerned, privately owned industry was subjected to rigid government control. In fact, private enterprise was encouraged only to the extent that it served government interests. Political parties other than the Fascist were outlawed; labor unions were banned. The government skillfully controlled the media, silencing opposers by means of censorship. Special attention was given to indoctrinating the young, and personal liberty was seriously curtailed.

Has the Lesson Been Learned?

The days of black-shirted Italian military squads and of swastika-bearing, brown-uniformed German storm troopers are over. Yet, even in 1990, vestiges of Fascism remain. Two years ago Newsweek magazine warned that in practically every Western European nation, “the forces of the far right are proving once again that barely disguised racism and an appeal to nationalistic and authoritarian values can still gather surprising support.” No doubt one of the most dynamic of these movements is Jean-Marie Le Pen’s National Front in France with a message basically “the same as that of National Socialism.”

Is it sensible to place trust in neo-Fascist movements? Do the roots of Fascism​—Darwinian evolution, racism, militarism, and nationalism—​form a sound foundation upon which to base good government? Or would you not agree that like all other kinds of human rule, Fascism has been weighed in the balances and found wanting?

“The only study of a prince. He should consider peace only as a breathing-time, which gives him leisure to contrive, and furnishes ability to execute, military plans.”​—Italian political philosopher Niccolò Machiavelli.

Source: War or Peace—And You (Awake!—1986)

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Lysergic

I'd say you were wrong

Genetically Native Americans are Asian.

www.the-scientist.com...

What does that fact really matter? All humans are 99.9% identical in DNA. That 0.1% is what differentiates us as individuals from facial structures, anomalies, height, weight, etc.

Which makes the whole grouping via skin tone just insane to begin with - though very helpful in controllingand manipulating humans in general. Grouping by culture, well thats a little more accurate and significantly different.

Either way, the idea of "us vs them" is an incredible complexity within nature that seems to work for and against humans in general.

a reply to: zosimov

99.999999999999999999999. etc of all the species, of all creatures, that includes everything that walks, crawls, swims. flys, farts and #s. That have ever existed on this planet are now extinct. Both that you know of, and countless others which you have no clue on, past, present and future.

You do the math on that, to figure out who's world it is. Were all just living on borrowed time. tic, toc.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

I think we're in agreement then.
Our opinions may differ on what our role here is (my argument is that it is our duty to care for or bring order to the world. If we know better, it's my opinion that we should be better), but I think you'll find in my OP that I wrote the world doesn't belong to any of us (and then some people to whom it particularly does not belong, but who for whatever reason think otherwise).

Interesting point from a wide lens, though. We truly are a blip in time!

a reply to: Sparkymedic

Either way, the idea of "us vs them" is an incredible complexity within nature that seems to work for and against humans in general.

Copy that...

No culture can thrive if it intends to be exclusive; but look at the current state of US cultural affairs; distilling down to tribalism once again. We're in for some gnarly times.

But as I always like to say......."Art saves Lives"

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

I meant to respond to this last night, but the limitations of life intervened.

When the Simon and Garfunkel song came out:

it always reminded me of the Thornton Wilder play Our Town, specifically Act 3.

Town undertaker Joe Stoddard is introduced, as is a young man named Sam Craig who has returned to Grover's Corners for his cousin's funeral. That cousin is Emily, who died giving birth to her and George's second child. Once the funeral ends, Emily emerges to join the dead. Mrs. Gibbs urges her to forget her life, warning her that being able to see but not interact with her family, all the while knowing what will happen in the future, will cause her too much pain. Ignoring the warnings of Simon, Mrs. Soames, and Mrs. Gibbs, Emily returns to Earth to relive one day, her 12th birthday. She joyfully watches her parents and some of the people of her childhood for the first time in years, but her joy quickly turns to pain as she realizes how little people appreciate the simple joys of life. The memory proves too painful for her and she realizes that every moment of life should be treasured. When she asks the Stage Manager if anyone truly understands the value of life while they live it, he responds, "No. The saints and poets, maybe — they do some."
Our_Town#Act_III:_Death_and_Eternity

The world is always up for grabs, if anyone can catch it.

originally posted by: rickymouse
Nobody owns the land, it belongs to the earth. That does not stop people from saying they own the land though. It is like saying Adam and Eve owned the garden of Eden....they did not own it. We have no right to destroy the earth, but that does not stop people from doing it. We are one of the most unintelligent type of animals on the planet overall. At least the Native Americans knew nobody owned the land when we stole it from them.

We didn't steal anything - our tribe fought their tribe and our tribe won. If they had spent more beads on fire sticks and less on fire water there would be alot more left.

Also we cant destroy the earth its a gigantic fireball with a thin flaky crust that we happen to currently exist on. We could fire every weapon ever made and it would fart us out of existence.

Burn down every forrest drain every sea and in a century they will return like nothing happened.

No one owns land - governments can dictate who gets to lease it but only so long as they are more powerful than the tenants. Point of note, you cant even buy land in america - only the 5 rights to use it.

Humans are the apex species - everything else is dumb, especially dolphins and whales or whatever you think is cute.