Controlled Lucid Dreaming/Astral technique

I remember dreaming and realising everything I expected to happen would happen, I started to change the situation/environment I was in based on my belief, it started with really small things like being able to make certain people enter my dream via a door if I was at home or making food I wanted appear in the fridge sort of thing. I don't recall if I was actually aware of the dreams or not at that point.

There was always a tug of war sort of thing with the control/focus of my dreams in the early stages, I feel like it was actually believing things vs wanting to believe.

It lasted a long time, I don't remember as much as id like to. Eventually I got scared off by shadow men, I tried resist and outsmart them but they just got worse and worse to the point I couldn't sleep and I lost the ability to dream like that.

I also saw a tr3b to the exact description very close around the same time, literally watched it from a distance changed direction and followed me and my friends in a car and we pulled over watched it hover there for a minute then it vanished, everyone of my friends forgot and constantly forget, I have to remind them all constantly, they go omg every time I tell them.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Phage

I think the projection is a dream a simulation albeit a good one, just like the OBE the place of arrival is never quite the same as as the real geographical spot as in the so called real world. But the flying is fun.

Sometimes a dream is just a dream.

Pretty much always, actually. But that doesn't mean there isn't something one might learn about one's self. Altered states can be good for that, no matter how they are induced.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

That's pretty weird lol.

I've had some deja vu like dreams before, but luckily nothing major. A lot of my dreams are apocalyptic/post-apacalyptic, or set far into the future after war and global environmental changes, and people live a simpler lifestyle as automation basically does all the work for them.

I have a few different "main" dreams where I pick up after I left off from the last time I was in that dream.

I frequently have one off dreams where I'm just messing around.

Basically what I do is as I'm getting ready to fall asleep I begin thinking about what dream I want, and when my body falls asleep, instead of just thinking about the dream I'm in it and in control.

I don't know how else to describe it.

I can end a dream whenever I want to and I'm in a black void where I can either just space out and relax or I can think about different things like I normally do when I'm not sleeping. I can play "movies" where basically I'm dreaming, but it's more like I'm aware I'm dreaming and it's like I'm watching a movie. I can chill and let the dream movie unfold on its own, or if I don't like how it's going I can change it.

I used to keep dream journals as I was going to pull a RL Stein and write books based off my dreams, but I lost them. Don't know where they went. I think my parents threw them away when I joined the military.

a reply to: Yoamr

Hey man, that sounds similar to the way I started off.

You gotta be careful though, because if you get to the point where you start questioning if you're in the waking world or the dreaming world and don't have an "anchor" so to speak you run the risk of losing grip of the most solid reality and losing your #.

That's why I don't recommend using mind altering drugs.

I had a lucid dream once...for like 3 seconds. The way I did it was I did tons of reality checks during the day as Phage suggested, but I would also look at my hands while doing the reality check and affirm that I would look at my hands in my dream...eventually I managed to look at my hands in my dream and became lucid.


Other tips: Don't eat food for at least 3 hours before bed. Drink a lot of water before bed. Meditate lots. Take vitamin B6 and 12. Conserve your sexual energy.

a reply to: Phage

Correct. You explained well.

MS-Astralist 50+ years

a reply to: Yoamr

Galantamine can help with vivid dreams. My vivid dreams will sometimes turn into Lucid ones if I remember to "think" rather than just roll with whatever is going on. The "Am I dreaming" does work, I find it a rush when I get to take over. I have never compared sleep quality after a Lucid dream to that of a non remembered dream, may be something to look into.

originally posted by: Tucket

Other tips: Drink a lot of water before bed.

I think the reason for this is it forces you to wake up to go pee, when you go back to sleep is when vivid dreams and or Lucid dreams happen more. One of the tricks is to set an alarm around 1 am if you go to bed at 10pm, force your self awake for a few minutes then go back to sleep.

I’ve have me experiences of lucid dreaming. I love it.

I have lucid dreams frequently when I have insomnia. I know that sounds strange, but I find when I get exhausted/over tired, i will sleep for a few hours at a time and enter a very lucid state very quickly. Had quite a few false awakenings too. I must say I would rather just sleep well, and not feel like I've gone on an epic adventure each time i wake up.
I do love flying though.

I had a really lucid and frightening dream of being chased by mad max type characters in hazmat suites.

Anyone spent time in the ‘void’???

originally posted by: Yoamr

I wont go into it too much but it was one of the best and most memorable experiences in my life i wish I could share it, now I have a job, wife, kids and everything else that demands and grounds us.
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I found lucid dreaming was always easier when I was already well rested; for example those times you sleep in on the weekends, a few extra hours after an already good night sleep. Needing to sleep because you are truly tired and need the time to recharge makes it more difficult.

So having a wife, kids and everything else now makes it more difficult to find time to sleep when I don't really need to. Normally these days I am sleep deprived

originally posted by: Phage
I've heard of a trick to transition to lucid dreaming.

During the day, when you are awake, ask yourself, "Am I dreaming?" when some particular event happens. I'm not sure how it works exactly but it seems that if it becomes sort of a habit and if that event happens while you are dreaming (which everyday activities sometimes do) you'll be able to answer the question, "Yup, I'm dreaming all right." And it goes on from there.

Another similar technique is too try to change something physical in your soundings. Change the lamp shape from blue to green for example. It clearly won't work during the day; but if you get into the habit of trying you wind up doing it in your dreams where it does work keying your mind into knowing your asleep.

I heard once that certain elements within the CIA (or some alphabet agency) were very interested in monitoring people who had the ability to lucid dream vividly. Apparently they were a threat to national security because some of them can do something similar to remote viewing & thereby access places, people & documentary (or technological) evidence of US government secrets. Apparently also connected to the MK Ultra shenanigans, programming people & so forth. Not sure how it all fits together, but the source was pretty darn convinced that it was happening, and that at least a couple of talented dreamers had ended up getting brain-#ed by the agency, turned into head cases by the psychotic mind kontrolle. Just saying. Anyone else heard anything about this?

a reply to: Phage

Similar to a trick Castaneda taught which is very useful I think; focus your attention on your hands in your dreamstate, and focus before sleep that you want to see your hands. Eventually you will be able to look down and see them, and then it's only a small step to accessing any part of the dream you want, as if you were there.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

focus your attention on your hands in your dreamstate,

It seems that you would have to already be in a lucid dreaming state in order to do that.

a reply to: Phage

Not really...its like if you focus on it enough before sleep, for weeks, you will start dreaming of looking at your hands. and it will trigger your subconscious to make it lucid for real.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Ok. That makes sense. A technique similar to others mentioned.

They all seem to have something in common, consciously create a certain habit of thought which may carry over to a dream.

One aspect of lucid dreaming that is important is staying lucid with out waking up. I often find it difficult to not wake up after realizing I am dreaming.

It starts off not being able to move properly; probably because my conscious mind is trying to move my real body which is paralyzed from sleep. Than after struggling to move for a few seconds I wake up.

In the past I've tried to correct this by making an effort to move in a way that doesn't involve my real body movements. The simplest movement I have found works well is to make myself spin like a top; but with out using my feet. It seems to conditions the mind that movement works by thinking about moving and not the normal way of willing body parts to move.

a reply to: TechnoAssassin1

i got banned from the void, i now kick it in the abyss.

seriously though how do you get into the void? sounds interesting.

I was not taking any drugs.

Besides the luicd dreams I did have a few memorable experiences in the real world around the time that could be related.

One night as I was drifting off to sleep i heard a soft frequency sound like a refrigerator humm, as i focused on it the sound became louder and louder and began to twist and change into this ringing pulsing sound and then sound wave collision sound like when two people whistle near each other and the sound twists.

I remember waking up one day and seeing gold glowing numbers on the wall in my bedroom. The number 53 or 20 something, I got up and walked over to the wall looking at it in disbelief moving around to look at different angles for about 30 seconds, once I blinked my eyes it was gone.

One afternoon while on the computer I got a strange instant feeling of being extremely tierd to the point of collapse, like some drug had hit me, I asked my friend to leave as I had to go to sleep right now, maybe 2pm or so. I literally crawled over to my bed as mental images started to overlay my vision like pages of a book flicking through, I was seeing scenarios being played out in different times and places for a few seconds and then changing, immedietly passed out when I chose a scenario to focus on.