Controlled Lucid Dreaming/Astral technique

Hi ATS,

Just gunna dump an idea here.

Long time lurker here, In my late teens/early 20s I was a hermit/bludger and spent alot of time researching reading and thinking about aliens, astral, space, and technologies. Basically anything outside of the mainstream I was interested, as you do when growing up.

I am considering writing up a guide that I believe will trigger and allow for controlling lucid dreaming+.

I am not trained or pretending to be knowledgable in this area but I do have my experience.

There was a period of about 3 months where I was consistently having lucid dreams every night.
Exploring space with people, meditating around planets with other aliens, seeing the multiverse layers before I knew what that concept was, so much cool stuff and more amazing than any movie or anything I could imagine.

Almost every night I would be leading the dream fully conscious of the day and who I was and that I was dreaming, only a few times I was pulled to places and did not have the lead, it was all positive and exciting until I started to encounter shadow men but I believe I attracted it myself and was too open.

I wont go into it too much but it was one of the best and most memorable experiences in my life i wish I could share it, now I have a job, wife, kids and everything else that demands and grounds us.

There was some things I was doing at that time K believe played a part in triggering it.
Maybe I can help people access this.

I would geuss those at the age of 16 - 22 are at the best stage to develop it, those who live at home with quieter social lives may find it easier. Clearer schedules, clearer minds.

If there is enough interest I may create a guide, document and work with people to try and develop this.

Anyone interested I would reccomend reading about the heavely drum technique and full lotus meditation. (I could never clear my mind but could hold the position)

Drink lots of water.

a reply to: Yoamr


You know when you cant remember someone's name, and suddenly it pops in to your mind later on? Or you go to bed and have to get up at a certain time but haven't got an alarm clock? if you don't get to uptight you can usually wake up at the right time? These things are delayed completion of a mental suggestion. I'm pretty sure the same thing applies to lucid dreams , if sometime during the day you remind yourself to have one that night , a lot of the time you will. I am coming around to the opinion that Astral travelling is a dream, but then probably everything is anyway lol.

I've heard of a trick to transition to lucid dreaming.

During the day, when you are awake, ask yourself, "Am I dreaming?" when some particular event happens. I'm not sure how it works exactly but it seems that if it becomes sort of a habit and if that event happens while you are dreaming (which everyday activities sometimes do) you'll be able to answer the question, "Yup, I'm dreaming all right." And it goes on from there.

a reply to: Phage

I have to ask myself everyday if I'm dreaming lol.

Awareness plays a big part in it.

You more you become situationally aware, the more vivid your dreams become.

As you drift into sleep and maintain awareness as your thoughts transition from thoughts to dreams you can maintain that level of observance and awareness.

The tricky part is maintaining balance between your conscious thoughts and your brain trying to do what it does while you're asleep. If your brain realizes you are still conscious for whatever reason it will stop the sleep cycle and you'll be thrust back into the waking world.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

I don't think vivid dreams are the same as lucid dreams.

From what I've gathered, in lucid dreaming you can take conscious control to a great extent. That you can control what you, yourself, do in the dream. I find the idea fascinating. I first heard about it in the context of recurring nightmares. Through lucid dreaming the subject was able to take control and the nightmares ended.

a reply to: Phage

The last two sentences I was talking about lucid dreaming.

I've been lucid dreaming for as long as I can remember.

When I realized that it wasn't exactly considered normal I started looking into it. I even went so far as to meet up with some college researchers who were doing a study.

I learned that most people when they realize they are dreaming abruptly wake up. Some people think it's the mere shock or realization that they are dreaming that snaps them out of it, and some think it's the brain kicking them out of their own dreams.

Some people have reported being able to witness future events through their dreams, in which at some point in the future they find themselves in the same exact situation they were dreaming of.

There was a study at some point where they were looking into the effects of anxiety to see if those who suffer from varying degrees of anxiety reported more lucid dreams.

I can't remember if there were any strong correlations, but there was a point after I got out of the Navy I was suffering from sever anxiety for a while, and I don't recall any differences in my dreams other than they sucked more than usual.

But yeah the recurring nightmare scenario is pretty well known. Where a person is tormented repeatedly suffering the same fate each time until the person dreaming somehow finds the strength to consciously either perform different actions or just nope out of the nightmare all together and change the dream.

a reply to: Phage

Never knew you were a professor of woo, Phage...? I've heard of the same technique, could never get into the habit & always had other stuff clouding my attention. The OP's experience sounds awesome - my dreams are vivid & lengthy every night, but I'm never in control of the storyline. Some amazing revelations all the same, but I get the feeling God's been handling me with kid gloves when it comes to the advanced stuff. There have been longtime negative influences in my life also which have really helped me to damage my own spiritual wellbeing, causing negative events almost more often than positive events. But yeah, still...either way, it's eventful! I will figure it out one day (or it might just pop into my head from somewhere else...)

a reply to: Phage

Dream control is an interesting subject, its a bit weird ,as the environment in a good full lucid dream. Is pretty defined and has good detail, like did I make all that? just like the environment in the so called waking state. Which begs the question is the so called waking state a really good lucid dream simply because you have practiced that particular one defined as a lifetime... a lot. Or could it be more like an induced memory stream made of electro magnetic signals which would on the surface be the same thing. Like the brain in a jar all wired up to be fed the electro magnetic signals that make it appear to have a life, job and occasionally going on holiday.

Reminds me of when I practised the mental alarm clock which worked for a few days, mentally focusing and repeating as you drift off to sleep. It is harder than it sounds. You will wake at the exact time within a minute or two.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I think lucid dreaming is a fascinating aspect of human psychology. Nothing "woo" about it. Unless you start getting into "projection" and stuff.

a reply to: Phage

I have heard of that trick, it is the same concept I think. carrying a thought into the subconscious like an anchor.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Some people have reported being able to witness future events through their dreams, in which at some point in the future they find themselves in the same exact situation they were dreaming of.

This has happened to me on numerous occasions over the years, absolute God's honest truth - not only small details (like my autistic nephew suddenly not scared of my beard any more) to the son-of-a-bitch that taliban-looking fellow just chopped off his head in front of me & is killing kids in makeshift cages - the rise of IS in the Middle East, being run & financed by bad actors in the upper eschelons of US society. Elements within the CIA & mil-industrial complex, is what I'm referring to here. Not America or American people in general. (I dreamed that exact sequence of elements seven years before it happened..) I also have a precog on at least one international incident which resulted in the loss of a pilot's life in the UK. But I can't talk to anyone about these dreams in real life, so I sata dump on here & trust that the information is handled by those on the side of the angels. And I try to enjoy life in between these bombastic & stunning events in my dreamlife, which as noted previously I have no lucid control over.

But I have had around four direct lucid dreams that I can remember. The most fun/ shocking was when I found myself on a school bus where Obama bin Laden was sat there, among orinary-looking members of the British public, in his sandy Arab/Taliban style of dress. When I pointed out this seemingly salient fact to the other bus riders, they all broke into some weird discordant nursery rhyme, swaying back & forth, smiling or emotionless. Osama just grinned the whole way through. That was the point I became really really lucid, which proceeded to last for less than a minute thereafter, as is always the case, I can't hold the lucidity....

a reply to: Phage

I like the cut of your jib..


The tragic thing is, my precognitive dreams are my current 'lifetime greatest achievement award', I have nothing in waking reality in terms of my apparent purpose on this earth which is anywhere near as interesting, cool, potentially relevant & on occasion, seemingly important. I hope to change that soon, but time will tell. I have my lovely family of course, but a man needs a purpose to invigorate his life & bring good out of it in the final analysis.

And also, I know nothing can be definitively proven about the rise of IS being sponsored at least partly by rogue US financiers, some of whom repented afterwards, according to the dream, when they saw the savagery they had unleashed. But it's not beyond the realms of possibility, was the way I looked at it.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

That's how I understand the concept, your conscious mind can control your own actions in the dream but your subconscious still controls everything else.

a reply to: Phage

I see what you're saying. So really, I just have to train myself to pay attention to details, and to question my state of consciousness, and over time I will be less shocked by the prospect of being a conscious participant in the dream - and I shouldn't try to force the narrative, simply participate actively, making choices which seem right, cool or relevant as my subconscious lays it all out for me... Now I just have to practice!




ETA - forgot to say thanks for the tips!

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I haven't done it even once. It's just a technique I heard about.
I've thought about it but I guess my motivation level isn't high enough to actually try to develop the habit.

a reply to: Phage

That's about the same with me, but I now see the impetus afforded by the precog dreams - which are probably a great big banqueting dinner gong telling me to develop my ability to dream consciously.....Now I feel utterly stupid for having missed the inference.

a reply to: Phage

I think the projection is a dream a simulation albeit a good one, just like the OBE the place of arrival is never quite the same as as the real geographical spot as in the so called real world. But the flying is fun.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

If the March Hare shows up, beware.
No telling what he'll do.