The IDs of the Parties involved in the 2007 Nimitz UFO Video Leak are Known!!!

a reply to: mirageman

I think it's probably necessary to make things absolutely clear, GUT. Just to make sure there is no confusion. Your involvement only began in 2019 and you were only ever provided with the necessary information to confirm TFTR was who he claimed to be ? ** In other words, a Naval IT technician. You were not offered, nor had you requested, any of the potentially sensitive documents?

Good to be clear....

a reply to: Baablacksheep


Website bio could read-

"In my spare time - I like to prolifically investigate none evidenced UFO's using whatever labor intensive approach I can come up with".

Maybe make a joke out of it?:

"Dont worry - when I close my eyes during your hearing- I'm definitely thinking about your case- not rebuilding the binaries on UFO ChatGPT v 3.6 "

Perhaps illustrate the point with a W/L ratio or something?

a reply to: Jukiodone


He also could add that he enjoys running around Rendlesham forest and meeting up with the UFO yokals that dwell there in all that spare time too! He is a very busy man. Anyway I could not help but grin with your thoughts . Lol. I am sure Isaac has humour. Anyway his name even represents a fish....Koi......

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

 I write under a pseudonym because some clients and colleagues would probably roll on the floor with laughter

That should no longer apply. It's all out in the open.

Wut?

I'm laughing even harder now if people take Elizondo and Grusch and numerous others seriously, when they say they haven't even seen anything but people told them stuff. I already explained in detail why I thought Elizondo was being deceptive in his interview with Mick West. Now if anything more than that ever surfaces, like credible evidence, then I might stop laughing, but so far Grusch is like a public credulity test...how much are you willing to believe with nothing but some guy telling you others told him stuff and showed him stuff?

For all I know the documentation he saw was the Guy Hottel FBI memo from 1950, about alien bodies. Sure, it's a real document, so he wouldn't be lying, but....please. That's just one example of a true document where dialog about it spun out of control and people are still spinning it, it will be 4 decades in 2025 that people have been claiming alien bodies based on that memo.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

test...how much are you willing to believe with nothing but some guy telling you others told him stuff and showed him stuff?

Never said I believe anything let alone the latest whistleblower. Every year we get treats. Im waiting to see who springs out next and will lead the way. Back to Isaac now. His ears might be burning.

originally posted by: mirageman

I think it's probably necessary to make things absolutely clear, GUT. Just to make sure there is no confusion. Your involvement only began in 2019 and you were only ever provided with the necessary information to confirm TFTR was who he claimed to be ? In other words, a Naval IT technician. You were not offered, nor had you requested, any of the potentially sensitive documents?

Thanks for clarifying and yes that is correct. "Yes, Special Agent what MM said!"

I hope to have some updates on this soon, btw.

originally posted by: mirageman

...I am a barrister in England with an interest in various issues relating to "UFOs". I write under a pseudonym because some clients and colleagues would probably roll on the floor with laughter at the thought of my spending time on these topics, even though my focus of my interest is actually on various sociological and psychological issues relating to UFOs and ufology.

I take it at face value but maybe I shouldn't. If his identity ever came out he could be like, "Hey, read my disclaimer, I'm just studying the crazies!"

a reply to: The GUT

The Hunt for Cometa was certainly advertised in more than one place.

Even on Linkedin : www.linkedin.com...

Sounds like a full-blown investigation if you read it. I can see why someone might be interested in peeking at the files (without attracting attention to oneself). But I am not sure why someone might advertise to the world that they were not only trying to acquire them but also had personal details to hunt down the person in possession of them

....I think that some of the details that TFTR has forgotten can be used to refresh his memory about his communication with Cometa, which may result in TFTR regaining access to some of the material that has been lost over the years - including the longer version of the video and/or the Powerpoint presentation about the events (i.e. UFO 5 Anomaly brief.ppt).

So, I'll provide TFTR with some of those further details and see if we can pursue this further. I'm happy to do that in the open on ATS on the thread at the link below, if his patience will put up with some further questions from me:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

(I'm also still looking for some help in Germany to locate Cometa. I have had his real name, birth date, place of birth, photo, and various other details for quite a while now - so remain a bit frustrated that I and Antoine Cousyn haven't found Cometa yet to ask him if he has retained the longer version of the video and the Powerpoint presentation...).

But on a wider scale there is something linking this all together with events that began in 2004 and exploded into the public domain in 2017. The fact that the FLIR video ended up being one of the videos BF Lue requested for release before he joined TTSA and was then used as 'evidence' that the US government was studying UFOs.


When TFT returned as thefinaltheoryreturns [TFTR] he also wrote....

.....3. 2 videos, a docx file, and a ppt
4. I am not in possession of any of the original documents.
5. This isn't some hollywood script, I do what I do when I feel like it simply put....

Now, simply put, that's a phrase I've heard somewhere before.

a reply to: mirageman

But I am not sure why someone might advertise to the world that they were not only trying to acquire them but also had personal details to hunt down the person in possession of them

All "fishy" .


Don't forget Celty in all this stuff too.

a reply to: mirageman

We (you included?) did get to cross examine TFTR a bit in the thread and he didnt seem much like an IT techie, or someone who'd been on Naval vessels, or someone who might have received the necessary training to make hardware changes to SIPRNet clients...... or even just someone who'd had several years to consider things given their UFO "proof".

Playing dumb is a good strat. if you've got nosy skeptics asking you questions so I dont totally exclude the possibility of TFTR being OG TFT (as per the vouches) - but the number of monumentally reckless/stupid acts required to make TFTR's data exfiltration story believable requires a level of dumb that is - ultimately, totally unbelievable .

a reply to: Jukiodone

I never interacted with TFTR directly. But did point out some obvious flaws in the case.

ATS was slammed for being highly sceptical about the story on other platforms.

However, it was the original thread on here Observations of an Actual UFO that those people probably never noticed. Where TFT claimed the incident happened in 2005, it was late at night and everyone was told to 'freeze' onboard when a "disk" shaped UFO was above the fleet. [I'm not sure that's standard operating procedure].

He also claimed he burnt files to a CD and then stashed them at a relative/friends. But miraculously in 2007 he returned to the ship and wowzer even found the CD with the video(s) a word document and a PowerPoint presentation on it.

They must have typed up the PowerPoint presentation fairly rapidly, or a fair amount of time had passed for him to acquire those files from the server. Add to that, he would have needed access to them. Plus, security must be pretty lax onboard the ship!

In the thread he started a day later, it was a totally different story, of course. The spelling and grammar had even improved.

Fighter Jet UFO Footage : The Real Deal

When TFTR suddenly turned up 12 years later, that was also naturally viewed with suspicion by many.

Still weird how that video came into the public domain and ended up being the one TTSA made their opening play with some 10 years later.

a reply to: mirageman

The whole escapade needs publicly documenting by someone with an eye for detail (nudge).
I keep a track on proceedings but there's loads of stuff that is pertinent AND easy to forget (such as that bipolar posting issue).

Agree the video story is weird ..but still seems to fit perfectly with the suspicions lots of people developed about 5 minutes into the TTSA presentation:

Some faction in the US govt/MIC wants the public (and their representatives) to believe there is an ET/UFO threat for some unknown reason.
They are well placed, they are long term, they are well funded and planting "evidence" like this vid. in advance would almost be prerequisite when the proposition is so ambitious i.e "trust us - its non evidenced ET".

Without any proof of ET UFO's - the only question for me now is - what is the cause.
If we assume effort is indicative of severity- what could they have possibly done that's so bad - they now need to go through this rigmarole?

originally posted by: Jukiodone
Without any proof of ET UFO's - the only question for me now is - what is the cause.
If we assume effort is indicative of severity- what could they have possibly done that's so bad - they now need to go through this rigmarole?

Maybe asking what they've done isn't even the right question, as I hypothesized here, maybe the question is "what are they trying to prevent"?

But it's anybody's guess and that's only one hypothesis of many, another is they just want lots of UFO noise as cover for the secret projects they are working on, and they were distressed to see data like this, and felt they had to step up their game to turn this chart back up:

Hi "the GUT" its me celltypespecific


It great to be back after all these years...... you were actually nice to me.

Excellent that we finally have disclosure after all this time!! Take care

a reply to: The GUT

a reply to: Celltype

Did you ever really vanish Celty.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep

Don't forget Celty in all this stuff too.

You rang?

originally posted by: Celltype
Hi "the GUT" its me celltypespecific

It great to be back after all these years...... you were actually nice to me.

Excellent that we finally have disclosure after all this time!! Take care

Hi, Celty! Yes it is very exciting. What you been up to? You sound perky and well. How do you read all of this? Big "D" disclosure is it?

a reply to: The GUT

I have been pretty active on twitter.... also I got tenure!!!

Getting ready to teach in August and family doing great.

I hope all is well with you!

Cheers... I will be back once Senator Rubio/Gillibrand officially announces that we have retrieved alien craft.
Best!

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Hi Baablack... yes I was banned for like 3 years !! I think around 2020....

Anyhow I have learned my lessen. Have a wonderful week !!

a reply to: Celltype

I thought you might be hanging out with beautiful Lue Celty?

So with your "sense's" when will this be?

I will be back once Senator Rubio/Gillibrand officially announces that we have retrieved alien craft.

Hmmmm🤔

a reply to: Jukiodone

The whole escapade needs publicly documenting by someone with an eye for detail (nudge).

I had a lot of notes from this thread that I didn't use. Until now anyway.

See the new thread : The Mysterious Origins of the Nimitz UFO Video

It's mainly the story as told by TFT and TFTR. Yep a lot doesn't add.