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neutronflux posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 01:36 AM a reply to Pachomius
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Faith as defined by Merriam Webster Dictionary.
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ˈfāth
plural faiths ˈfāths , sometimes ˈfāt͟hz
Definition of faith (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1) : fidelity to one's promises
(2) : sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
on faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith
faith verb
ˈfāth
faithed; faithing; faiths
Definition of faith (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb
archaic
: BELIEVE, TRUST
The above is the general definition of faith for my native language.
If you don’t like a standard definition with an economy of words that allows for not reconstructing language every time two or more people communicate, petition to have the definition changed or expanded.
Or reference a language in which has a better word for faith than the English language.
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edit on 18-9-2020 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed
Title of thread: Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.
Author of thread: Pachomius
posted on Jun, 25 2020 @ 01:12 PM
OP of thread:
On the assumption that mankind sincerely seeks knowledge, I submit that it is possible for any person to come to resolve the issue God exists or not, with honest intelligent productive thinking, i.e., thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas. Now, honest intelligent productive thinking on the said issue must start with working together to concur on the concept of God. What do you dear colleagues here say?
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Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.
Pachomius posted on Jun, 25 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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On the assumption that mankind sincerely seeks knowledge, I submit that it is possible for any person to come to resolve the issue God exists or not, with honest intelligent productive thinking, i.e., thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas. Now, honest intelligent productive thinking on the said issue must start with working together to concur on the concept of God. What do you dear colleagues here say?
12 steps to prove the existence of God:
Dear everyone, as there is an oft repeated request for me to show my proof on evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, allow me to reproduce my post, below, for your study.
After you have studied it, may I just ask you to kindly bring up No. 1 line, for us all to discuss: you see, without your acceptance of No. 1, it is impossible for you to understand the whole procedure of my proof.
So, if you don’t first bring up No. 1, I will opt to not give attention to your message.
Pachomius posted on Aug, 9 2020 @ 07:13 AM
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Dear everyone, here is my exposition proving from evidence the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
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1. You and I and he she it, we all exist, do you accept that?
2. You and I and he she it, we came from our parents, do you accept that?
3. Our parents came from their parents, do you accept that?
4. We all humans make up the human race, can you accept that?
5. The human race had a beginning in the universe, can you accept that?
6. Scientists tell us the universe had a beginning some 13.8 billion years ago, can you accept that?
7. There has been the domain of existence prior to the beginning of the universe, can you accept that?
8. In that domain of existence prior to the beginning of the universe, there has got to be an entity, which created or caused the coming to the beginning of the existence of the universe, can you accept that?
9. Evidence is anything existing which leads man to ascertain the existence of another thing, can you accept?
10. Wherefore, man and the universe and everything with a beginning are the evidence to the existence of an entity, which created or caused them to come to existence, can you accept that?
11. And therefore we can call that entity in concept and in name, as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, can you accept that?
12. If you cannot or will not accept that God exists, are you not then either irrational or dishonestly stubborn against the existence of God?
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Dear everyone, please point out what Number 1 to 12 you have difficulties with, okay?
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Nothin
Whom amongst us really remembers, and whom just guesses ?
I'll put it like this: I remember what I remember.
I don't remember the first human or the last.
I'm in the process of writing up a rather lengthy memoir,
things I remember over a lengthy period of time.
The NOW is freking overrated. Every act, every thought, in the past has consequences for today and tomorrow and the future. And we're killing ourselves as an ongoing process that could have been prevented 50 years ago, 40 years ago, maybe even 30 years ago, but we freaking didn't. Now we're F***ed.
When I'm done with the Bee Sting story, it will probably get posted in the Conspiracies in Religion forum. In the meantime, here's something that probably won't be in that story:
Where the hell did the concept of creator come from? Well the Greco-Roman idea came from a little word, Ktistēs.
Who was a ktistis ? An ancient founder of a small shabby colony. Then when the founder died, he was buried, and there were shrines. Founder/Creator. Then the small shabby colonies grew to be cities, and the cities became parts of empires, then Theology invented the gods.
Eventually, someone decided that the humble word ktistes, should be transmogrified from shabby colony founder to the freakin one and only self existing Creator of the Universe out of nothing.
See Oxford Classical Dictionary
And as further material for the video you posted, see: Great chain of being
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
How many of these threads about God on ATS have asked the same question.
130 pages later has God been found?
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
How many of these threads about God on ATS have asked the same question.
130 pages later has God been found?
130 pages later and there is no rational argument left that could conclude intelligence came from non-intelligence.
faith noun
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ˈfāth
plural faiths ˈfāths , sometimes ˈfāt͟hz
Definition of faith (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1) : fidelity to one's promises
(2) : sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
on faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith
faith verb
ˈfāth
faithed; faithing; faiths
Definition of faith (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb
archaic
: BELIEVE, TRUST
www.merriam-webster.com...
John 20:24-29
New International Version
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 Now Thomas(A) (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side,(B) I will not believe.”(C)
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace(D) be with you!”(E) 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”(F)
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed;(G) blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”(H)
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Matthew 21:22 ESV / 1,880 helpful votes
And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”
Hebrews 11:6 ESV / 1,806 helpful votes
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Romans 10:17 ESV / 1,789 helpful votes
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
Hebrews 11:1 ESV / 1,519 helpful votes
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Mark 11:22-24 ESV / 1,233 helpful votes
And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
James 2:19 ESV / 992 helpful votes
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 974 helpful votes
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Luke 1:37 ESV / 907 helpful votes
For nothing will be impossible with God.”
Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV / 852 helpful votes
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.
2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV / 816 helpful votes
For we walk by faith, not by sight.
www.openbible.info...
God's So Great Salvation: A Personal Testimony
www.wholesomewords.org...
After nights of reading the Bible, one evening while I was reading in the Gospels, I saw that Jesus was God and the only way of salvation. Whereas I was previously blind to spiritual things, God opened my eyes and my unbelief suddenly left. What my parents had told me about God's salvation was true!
I now understood John 3:16 in the Bible (For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life) and I believed God and His provision of His Son for me, and I placed my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour.
Time for me the author of the present thread to bring everyone back to the OP, for everyone to be guided accordingly.
NB My 12 steps to prove from evidence the existence of God in concept etc., below, in Annex
Thanks Neutron for a very long post, but you forgot to repeat in your long post what is your definition of faith.
Do it now when if ever you remember what you repeated many times already in the past.
faith noun
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ˈfāth
plural faiths ˈfāths , sometimes ˈfāt͟hz
Definition of faith (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1) : fidelity to one's promises
(2) : sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
on faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith
faith verb
ˈfāth
faithed; faithing; faiths
Definition of faith (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb
archaic
: BELIEVE, TRUST
www.merriam-webster.com...
John 20:24-29
New International Version
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 Now Thomas(A) (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side,(B) I will not believe.”(C)
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace(D) be with you!”(E) 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”(F)
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed;(G) blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”(H)
www.merriam-webster.com...
Matthew 21:22 ESV / 1,880 helpful votes
And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”
Hebrews 11:6 ESV / 1,806 helpful votes
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Romans 10:17 ESV / 1,789 helpful votes
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
Hebrews 11:1 ESV / 1,519 helpful votes
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Mark 11:22-24 ESV / 1,233 helpful votes
And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
James 2:19 ESV / 992 helpful votes
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 974 helpful votes
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Luke 1:37 ESV / 907 helpful votes
For nothing will be impossible with God.”
Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV / 852 helpful votes
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.
2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV / 816 helpful votes
For we walk by faith, not by sight.
www.openbible.info...
God's So Great Salvation: A Personal Testimony
www.wholesomewords.org...
After nights of reading the Bible, one evening while I was reading in the Gospels, I saw that Jesus was God and the only way of salvation. Whereas I was previously blind to spiritual things, God opened my eyes and my unbelief suddenly left. What my parents had told me about God's salvation was true!
I now understood John 3:16 in the Bible (For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life) and I believed God and His provision of His Son for me, and I placed my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour.
Such thinking reflects a concept that finds a place in many religions around the globe—fate. Many people believe that our future, from the day of our birth to the day of our death, is somehow written in advance.
“God Saved My Life”
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When Aaron (not his real name) was 15, he began praying to Satan: “I felt like he and I had a partnership.” Aaron started to lie, steal, and manipulate his family and friends. He also experienced nightmares: “I woke up one morning and saw the devil at the end of the bed. He told me that I was going to pass my exams and then die.” Yet when he finished his exams, he lived. Aaron reflected, “It was clear to me that he was a liar.”
Hoping to meet girls, Aaron went to a Christian festival, where a man offered to pray for him. “While he was praying, I felt a sense of peace flood my body.” He felt something “more powerful, and more liberating,” than what he felt from Satan. The man who prayed told Aaron God had a plan and Satan was a liar. This man echoed what Jesus said of Satan when He responded to some who opposed him: “He is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44).
Aaron turned to Christ from Satanism and now “belongs to God” (v. 47). He ministers in an urban community, sharing the difference following Jesus makes. He’s a living testament of God’s saving power: “I can say with confidence that God saved my life.”
God is the source of all that is good, holy, and true. We can turn to Him to find truth.
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ˈfāth
plural faiths ˈfāths , sometimes ˈfāt͟hz
Definition of faith (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1) : fidelity to one's promises
(2) : sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
on faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith
faith verb
ˈfāth
faithed; faithing; faiths
Definition of faith (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb
archaic
: BELIEVE, TRUST