White Supremacist group poses as Antifa

a reply to: SKEPTEK

If what's true? I didn't say it's just white supremacists, nor do i support misguided empathy for rioters. And i have no idea what celebritys or lawyers are doing.

It's also possible some people are being bailed out who are believed to not have looted, but just got caught up in a protest and arrested when police cracked down. Idk..

a reply to: Fools

Vice news can lean a bit left but they have done some good reporting and documentaries. They're not perfect , but better than cnn or fox IMO.

Also, vice is mostly just reporting what twitter said. This is vice news not the incredibly left bloggy vice.com. im sure this news is being reported elsewhere as the source is Twitter.

They must be referring to this guy.

WARNING: Bad and racist language.


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a reply to: blueman12

I think "antifa" may operating from within the police departments. The FBI warned us in 2006 that white supremacist gangs were trying to infiltrate the police.

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We've been seeing these paid rioters for almost a decade now. Why hasn't there been a sting operation to find the source?

It not Soros, it the alt-right backed by the Russians.

a reply to: blueman12

I'm sorry, maybe I am missing it...what evidence does Twitter have about who is behind that Twitter account? The story just generically names a group...Evropa something...

Original NBC story Vice referenced

I need something more than just NBC saying Twitter 'said so.' I mean, Jack Dorsey is a socialist so Twitter can't be trusted to be objective about something like this.

Riots attract those who love to spread chaos and destroy things. It is not the peaceful protests that cause problems, but chaotic people know how to turn a peaceful protest into something that it was not initially intended to be.

These disruptive people tend to be attracted to protests and get a high from making them turn ugly....creating mob mindset which often escalates. Most of the peaceful protesters do not know they are being manipulated by these people. These people are good at creating chaos. There are more of these kind of people now that love to create havoc than there were years ago when I was young. The police were trained to identify these people, often walking along side the crowd after firing them up so they themselves do not get caught. I would guess that the police still have officers looking for these people.

I did a lot of research years ago on these instigators. I did participate in three protests, but in only one I met one of these people, the ones I went to were small. The unions used to send people to fire up the workers who were trying to unionize, that is the first time I ran into one of these when I was protesting with a friend at his job where they were trying to start a union. I didn't even work there, but they were trying to stimulate community support for the workers to convince the company it was in their best interest to approve the union.

One of the protests was at Michigan Tech...what a joke that was, what they wanted was not worth protesting about. It was started by teachers trying to get more pay and benefits. It wasn't right that they BSed the students into raising the cost of tuition.

The third protest was formed by a disgruntle employee who got fired by the owner for not going work when she was supposed to be working. She got a bunch of girls out there protesting and blocking the entrance to the driveway of the business, the cops were called and they told the protesters that they were not allowed to block the driveway because there were two businesses using that driveway. I only went there because of the girls there. But the disgruntled employee was a jerk so I only stayed there for maybe thirty minutes. I decided going to a protest to meet women was a bad idea, those girls were all chaotic, I would never have wanted to date any one of them let alone marry one of them.....they had a poor attitude.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
We've been seeing these paid rioters for almost a decade now. Why hasn't there been a sting operation to find the source?

It not Soros, it the alt-right backed by the Russians.

The National Lawyers Guild (NLG) and the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (LDF) are two of the primary funds doling out bail out money to arrested protestors.

THEY are great "sources" to follow in this chain.

The NLG is funded, in part, by Soros' Open Society Institute.

The LDF...*ahem* well just look at their CEO:



NAACP LDF -- Jonathan Soros, CEO, Golden Child of George Soros

Why do you think it's not Soros?



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Look at this guy...he has the NLG's phone number written on his arm for when he plans to get arrested...he's completely emboldened to commit criminal acts!

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
They must be referring to this guy.

WARNING: Bad and racist language.


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Lol that turned fast. The crowd was sort if with him until he started spamming the n word.

originally posted by: blueman12

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
They must be referring to this guy.

WARNING: Bad and racist language.


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Lol that turned fast. The crowd was sort if with him until he started spamming the n word.

Haha it sure did.

The video cuts too soon. I wonder if he got an ass beating?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I've seen a lot of footage of police acting like rabid dogs, arresting everyone from peaceful protestors to reporters and camera crews. Just because there are organizations set up to offer legal aid to protestors does not mean they are specifically directing aid to rioters.

Can you cite any documentation that shows these legal organizations specifically protecting rioters?

Remember, not all protestors are paid rioters. Some of those rioters maybe trying to take advantage of a well meaning service.

Not discounting the OPs post, I haven't done my due diligence, but Vice is nothing but Socialist dog#. What started out as cutting edge reporting, has devolved into total leftist smegma.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I've seen a lot of footage of police acting like rabid dogs, arresting everyone from peaceful protestors to reporters and camera crews. Just because there are organizations set up to offer legal aid to protestors does not mean they are specifically directing aid to rioters.

Can you cite any documentation that shows these legal organizations specifically protecting rioters?

Remember, not all protestors are paid rioters. Some of those rioters maybe trying to take advantage of a well meaning service.

The NLG is not transparent about the ins and outs of its funding BUT...they are public about their support for Antifa and have vowed to continue supporting them.

NLG's statement on Antifa

SNIP:

“Trump’s declaration that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization has no basis in fact or law and is merely an attempt to criminalize ordinary people who are exercising their right to protest,” said NLG Mass Defense Director Tyler Crawford. “The NLG condemns any such attempts by the government to interfere with the right of the people to have their voices heard in demanding justice for George Floyd and an end to racist police violence.”

The NLG will continue to oppose any attempts to exploit this crisis to repress political activism and social justice movements working to end to white supremacy. The Trump administration continues to ignore the ongoing injustice wrought on Black communities by institutional racism, including police brutality, in favor of seeking to physically or politically punish those who are part of anti-racist and anti-fascist movements. The NLG will continue to provide legal support to activists as they take to the streets to call for justice for George Floyd, from Minneapolis to Washington, D.C. and many other cities.

I can find no evidence that the NLG has any standards about how their legal funds are doled out. If they exclude rioters and violent protestors...they don't advertise it.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Also, what is your evidence of a Russian alt-right source? I am interested in fleshing that out....

originally posted by: blueman12

A white supremacist group linked to deadly right-wing violence in Charlottesville in 2017 used a fake Twitter account to pose as “Antifa” and incite violence during the current wave of protests against police brutality.
Twitter announced Monday that it had suspended the account, which claimed to belong to a national “Antifa” organization, and revealed that the account was created by Identity Evropa.

“Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” the message said, alongside a brown raised fist emoji. “Tonight we say '# The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …”

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It appears that the claim of white supremacists being involved in some riots are true. That certainly doesn't excuse people that follow the white supremacist agent provocateurs. Nor do i agree with trying to blame the violence on white supremacists. It does however add another level of poop to this sh!tshow.

Lots of groups seem interested in minipulating the protesters into violence. Hopefully some potential rioters read this news and decide against rioting after realizing they are being minipulated.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. I had said the same thing in a previous thread. White supremacists are involved and have been involved with the violent part of these protests.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: SKEPTEK

If what's true? I didn't say it's just white supremacists, nor do i support misguided empathy for rioters. And i have no idea what celebritys or lawyers are doing.

It's also possible some people are being bailed out who are believed to not have looted, but just got caught up in a protest and arrested when police cracked down. Idk..

I'll tell you... They're walking the old lady across the street and carrying her groceries so they can feel like they did their good deed for the year.

IOW - They're acting like they care so they can be heralded as heroes instead of being seen as the assholes they are.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Right now, I'd say that simply being present at any of these demonstrations constitutes "an action with high risk of arrest". Remember the St. John's event on Monday, where peaceful protesters were suddenly assaulted by police from another department, authorized by the secret service. Thank you for proving my point.

Remember that Antifa is not an organization. Its a movement. The rioters are committing these crimes under a name that doesn't really have definition or structure beyond "anti-fascism". To declare antifa a terror organization is to create a boogeyman that can be shaped to fit any description the state authorities please.

This whole thing reminds me a lot of Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter. He was trying to set up the black panthers with his brutal murders and "witchy" messages.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Right now, I'd say that simply being present at any of these demonstrations constitutes "an action with high risk of arrest".

Kind of undermines the cause behind the protests. Isn't it the black protestors who are unfairly targeted by police? Why are the white protestors so concerned if they truly believe in the cause?

Why can't I find any black protestors who wrote the phone numbers to get bail money on their arms in preparation to be arrested?






It's cognitive dissonance...they either know they are going to commit a criminal act that may get them arrested or they don't really believe that white people enjoy a special privilege with regard to the police.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Russian troll farms acting as online provocateurs.

President Trump's close association with Bayrock Group and Felix Sater (a known criminal in USA and Russia).

The propaganda and paid rioters are classic Soviet style tactics. Create a faceless enemy within the people, and devalue the truth with half-truths, mockery, and violence.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

You're going to have make a connection to the protests...how is money being used to fund/support/pay for agitators to infiltrate the protests and escalate them?