Do black lives really matter?

Hear me out before you jump on here and call me a racist. I realize that everyone is up in arms over George Floyd's death recently, understandably so. The police involved have been fired and are under investigation by the FBI.

Here's the issue I see. There have been 147 days so far this year. In Chicago alone 131 black people have been murdered. Where's the media on that....... I'm waiting. I'll tell you what I think, it doesn't fit the agenda and since they weren't killed by a white man it's not as important. Therefore their lives don't matter as much. Am I wrong?

Someone please explain this to me in a rational way.

a reply to: Somekindofwizard

I live in Chicago, am suffering through Fish Eyes soft tyranny, and couldn't agree more.
That said, ho boy, you done done it now.
In before you're a racist nazi.

" Therefore their lives don't matter as much. Am I wrong?"

is the answer No...

Sure. Here's the issue:

If someone is threatening my life, I don't give a # what colour you are.
I will defend myself..

a reply to: schuyler

We'll NOT have any of that truth in THIS thread mister! It ruins the agenda and virtue signaling.

Peoples head might explode...and depending on whose heads explode you might be called a racist!

originally posted by: Gravelbone
a reply to: Somekindofwizard

I live in Chicago, am suffering through Fish Eyes soft tyranny, and couldn't agree more.
That said, ho boy, you done done it now.
In before you're a racist nazi.

Oh I already know I'll catch hell for saying it. But where is the outrage for the black on black murder? Or black on white murder? You don't even see it in the news. It just seems to me if black lives really mattered then the movement would start with the biggest cause of black murder.... Other black people.

a reply to: Somekindofwizard

Sadly no.

SnF for saying what must be said.

originally posted by: Somekindofwizard

originally posted by: Gravelbone
a reply to: Somekindofwizard

I live in Chicago, am suffering through Fish Eyes soft tyranny, and couldn't agree more.
That said, ho boy, you done done it now.
In before you're a racist nazi.

Oh I already know I'll catch hell for saying it. But where is the outrage for the black on black murder? Or black on white murder? You don't even see it in the news. It just seems to me if black lives really mattered then the movement would start with the biggest cause of black murder.... Other black people.

Black lives only matter if a white person kills them.

You have to understand, the Democratic party cannot exist without "victims" that only THEY represent and can help.

You know... a bunch of white old rich racists who are only there to protect the victim classes from...

White old rich racists.

They don't give a sh!t about them except to use them for political gain.

Annddd... that's it, in a nutshell.

Kudos for bringing the topic up.

a reply to: Somekindofwizard

I am going to go off on a whim here and assume you're talking about the BLM movement.

Black Lives matter movement isn't about white people killing black people, or black people killing black people, it's about pointing out that black people are being killed just because they are simply black, mostly because of racial profiling and police brutality.

When you bring forth stats showing how much black on black violence there is, race obviously isn't the motive. The motives reach into much a deeper subject(s), ones that, again lead all the way back racism.
I like to use Trinidad as a perfect example, a nation plagued with high stats of murder, and violent crime. But the underlining reasons to why it's like that, is quite simple, gangs, and poverty.

If we want to understand why black on black crime is an actual issue, perhaps we should be looking at the reasons why it's like that, how it began, and where it stems from. Perhaps we can start with one simple idea, that black communities are in fact and have been shown to be overly policed, incarceration rates from the 1960s sky rocketed, I wonder why.

a reply to: Somekindofwizard

Awwwwww.... an opinion poll. How special.

But why not just call it like it really is? Do black lives really matter TO YOU? Because that's what you're really asking. And you know damn well it is. As does every single person who is answering.

But every one of you also know you only speak for yourselves.

And yes, black lives sure as hell matter. Obviously not to everyone, but to many. And damn good thing for everyone, because the simple truth is that if black lives don't matter, then no one's life matters.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Somekindofwizard

I am going to go off on a whim here and assume you're talking about the BLM movement.

Black Lives matter movement isn't about white people killing black people, or black people killing black people, it's about pointing out that black people are being killed just because they are simply black, mostly because of racial profiling and police brutality.

When you bring forth stats showing how much black on black violence there is, race obviously isn't the motive. The motives reach into much a deeper subject(s), ones that, again lead all the way back racism.
I like to use Trinidad as a perfect example, a nation plagued with high stats of murder, and violent crime. But the underlining reasons to why it's like that, is quite simple, gangs, and poverty.

If we want to understand why black on black crime is an actual issue, perhaps we should be looking at the reasons why it's like that, how it began, and where it stems from. Perhaps we can start with one simple idea, that black communities are in fact and have been shown to be overly policed, incarceration rates from the 1960s sky rocketed, I wonder why.

I believe you hit the nail on the head. The discussion needs to center on where it all stems from. Black on black crime actually skyrocketed after the 60s when the welfare state was introduced to the black families. The strong black father figure was less prevalent and social programs took the place of great parenting. Crime and poverty are tied together and sometimes that stigma follows families, even in more affluent neighborhoods.

originally posted by: schuyler

Enough said. That proves it.

Now the remaining questions is what's their motive for blowing up these news stories? TV ratings? Purposeful division among people? "All republicans are racist"? All of the above?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Somekindofwizard

If we want to understand why black on black crime is an actual issue, perhaps we should be looking at the reasons why it's like that, how it began, and where it stems from. Perhaps we can start with one simple idea, that black communities are in fact and have been shown to be overly policed, incarceration rates from the 1960s sky rocketed, I wonder why.

Just a wild guess, but is it because Blacks commit more crimes? Fact is the Blacks kill whites at TEN TIMES THE RATE that whites kill blacks. You are ignoring that so you can express the typical liberal "Oh, it's just poverty and racism" argument This will never be solved if you continue to ignore the elephant in the room.

a reply to: strongfp

Overly policed?? Hahaha. So your answer to high crime areas is to just let it work itself out?

a reply to: Boadicea

Congratulations on being the first. I knew it would come at some point. Maybe I'm wrong but if an archeologist discovers our media in 2,000 years they'll come to the conclusion that black lives only matter when they're murdered by a white person.

Honestly I think it's terrible that the media is pushing this agenda.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Somekindofwizard
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If we want to understand why black on black crime is an actual issue, perhaps we should be looking at the reasons why it's like that, how it began, and where it stems from. Perhaps we can start with one simple idea, that black communities are in fact and have been shown to be overly policed, incarceration rates from the 1960s sky rocketed, I wonder why.

Why not ask the pertinent questions then, like:

Who are the political leaders in these areas?
Which political party do they belong?
How long have they been in power yet nothing is ever done?
Why are people, decent people, moving out of these areas?


Unless, that is, it rubs your fur the wrong way?

Honest answers require honest questions before any solutions can be implemented.

a reply to: Somekindofwizard

As much as any other human life matters. Which doesn't seem to be much to most governments, organizations and large corporations that run the affairs of the world.

It would seem that, no, black lives do not matter. White lives do not matter. Yellow, brown and red lives do not matter.

Blue lives kind of matter. Depending on the circumstances.

Apparently, the only really important thing is political expediency. How much political mileage can be squeezed out of an injustice, a death, a pandemic, an abuse of the system, any tragedy. How can it be used to further an agenda, to make a political point, to garner more votes in the next election.

Your race is defined by whom you vote for. Your value as a human is defined by your race. The tragedy of your death is defined by how much it can stir people up, cause unrest and get votes.

We are seriously screwed.
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This isn't about neighbour killing neighbour, this is about LE, who have power given by the state over us..having their way, getting away.