Trump can't face this question and walks out

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

So basically the president is a mouthpiece, he has no power, can't affect any change and is held ransom by Congress,.....

Then why praise him so much for single handedly saving the economy, restoring American national pride and being the greatest President since, well, ever......?

They want to heap every praise and accolade possible on him with an almost god like reverance then either simply ignore his failings or blame them all on other people namely Democrats - who are really pinko, Commie bastards - Congress, MSM or just anyone other than Trump.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: TheRedneck

So basically the president is a mouthpiece, he has no power, can't affect any change and is held ransom by Congress, why have a president at all then if he's just benign figurehead?

What power does the president have if the congress and senate reject a proposed balanced budget from the president’s cabinet and will not even pass it in committee, other than pass the budget given to the president, or shutdown the government with a veto?

In reality, its the president vs scores of special interests who donate large amounts of money to the congress and senate, with disregard for the greater good of the country. Now with Pelosi on the bandwagon to give handouts to states that had no spending disciple. So, what are the consequences for state governments with no spending discipline when there is always a bailout.

We have a feel good government. With nobody willing to make the hard choices. And a voting public that thinks government resources are magical and unlimited.. and unforgiving when a politician makes a hard choice.

Again..

Want to talk about not being prepared, and no discipline. Let’s talk about decades of reckless spending. Let’s talk about the politicians voted in office on empty promises fueled by huge deficits and borrowing from countries like China. Let’s talk about the average consumer valuing price over labor so whole industries were moved to China.


Looking forward to your reply.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Or in short.

I would support a president in shutting down the government to pass balanced budgets.

Would you?

Trump cannot answer questions for the MSM because they have been weaponised against the USA....his answers do not matter they have because they have gotten so desperate they are willing to blatantly break protocals to hijack the media platform for their own nefarious uses....as we have recntly seen with the Bleach Lies thay told about POTUS.

How did they know?About the imminent release of Chlorine Dioxide truths?....They pro-actively attacked POTUS.It didn't even make sense to make the accusations they made because he clearly did not say what they claimed...they jumped off a cliff but landed on a Ledge they knew was there.....They knew his statements were nowhere near what they claimed but needed the negative dialog their lies produced connected to Chlorine s they used BLEACH to scare monger people....but how did they know to be pro-active without a lead-in opportunity....they knew the schedule....how?Lucky Guess?Cabal asset recovered by White-Hats the Cabal knew would be used immediately?

No the USA President cannot give the MSM any wiggle-room.He did the rght thing.

"I literally laugh at media now, its ridiculous and only serves as comical material."

I laugh too but it still pisses me off from time to time!

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The President is the head of the Executive Branch of government. Congress is the Legislative Branch. They do different things.

Please, read the US Constitution. It's not that long.

TheRedneck

People in this thread who are complaining about the leadership of Trump during this pandemic are the same people who never accepted his success in economy, unemployment and strengthening american position as the world leader. Which translates simply in this line: Haters and lunatics who can't get out of their echo chambers. Even if the man were to come up with a vaccine the very next day of the spread of the pandemic, still this people would find something to complain about. Weird bunch.

LOL some people still don't get it. He is focusing on things people keep complaining about. first it was not enough ventilators.,then not enough PPE..... Issues resolved. Then it was not enough tests, so he ramped up testing. Only reason he brings up that America is in the lead is because it's relevant. What's the next thing the media will try to get the public all up in arms about? Whatever it is, Trump is ready to solve that too.

Media just reminds me of my psycho Ex Girlfriend. Asks me questions for the mere fact to get a gotcha so they can bring it back up later.

And yes, that reporter was race baiting. sir....sir...why are you saying that to meeeee. Like grow up lady. He is saying that to YOU because YOU asked the question.

a reply to: TheRedneck

As I think I mentioned earlier, I don't see Trump as the cause of our problems. I see him as an example writ large OF the problems we face. For instance, in your final paragraph you make the claim that the lies leveled against him are based on a cult of personality, that is all those non-thinking people who believe the Shumers and the Clintons and all the rest. I don't disagree with that to some extent. However that cult of personality bit. Can you not see that that charge fits Trumpianism at least as strongly?

The very nature of cults and their leaders is that the followers are BLIND to the true nature of the cult leader for all the same reasons you like Trump. To them he is what they want him to be. The fact that they do not see it even as so many around them can should be proof. But is isn't. The cult leader is invisible to the followers because they believe they are not in a cult.

So yes, do I recognize the cultish nature of Obama's followers? Yeppers. And the followers of the Clinton's? Hoo boy. Or for that matter Reagan or Kennedy. Or Roosevelt. Or the cult of Bush. Daddy was a great man and president to boot so sure, let us extend that lineage to a bumbling son. ''The Heir Apparent''Wouldn't that be great? (Thank you Repubs for nipping a third try at that in the bud.) OH, did I forget to mention the ''Wifey"? Yeah, let's extend that family lineage and make the former first lady the First Lady of the Land hogwash ...

So no, I don't blame Trump. I blame the system that he has been a success at. A system that decided that he would be a fun host for a crock of $hit TV reality show, though there was nothing of reality in it. A show where the pretend boss could elevate his image as a boss and tell famous people ''Your' fired'' and all the happy little watchers would cheer because one more fraud celebrity would become a looser. All the while the economy was tanking and people were being told your'e fired in real life.

I"m sorry Red. I got off on a tangent there. I had intended to reply more to the nature of business as you promote it but now I see that I have rambled off and to attempt to address some of your points on that issue would be futile for fertile conversation.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

As I think I mentioned earlier, I don't see Trump as the cause of our problems. I see him as an example writ large OF the problems we face.

On that I will agree completely. Trump knows how to play the game, and he can play it very well. He just didn't write the rules; those who oppose him at every turn for the sake of opposing him wrote the rules, and I find that not only disingenuous but insulting. Therefore I reserve the majority of my ire for those who wrote the rules, the very same group that now wants to crucify Trump at all costs.

That may appear to be a cult of personality... and I guess in some ways it could be considered such. However, one aspect of human nature I have observed is the tendency to respond when attacked. My allegiance is not to Donald Trump; Donald Trump is a human and as such is fallible and corruptible. My allegiance is to the policies he espouses, policies that I did not agree with because he said them but rather policies that I have held for many years now.

The wall is the most obvious example of that. Trump never convinced me that we need a wall on the southern border; Reagan convinced me of that back in the 1980s and facts that have come to light since then have only cemented that belief that we need a wall. Jack Knickerbocker could have ran for President espousing a wall on the southern border and I would have been in agreement with Jack Knickerbocker. That is not a cult of personality; a cult of personality exists when the person becomes more important than the policies.

Now, that said, there are some who support Trump for the sake of Trump. I recognize that fact and it is indeed a cult of personality. However, that tendency to attack back when attacked is likely the cause for at least some of this. In my case, i see it as a direct insult to my very citizenship; I chose Donald Trump to hold the office of President, and as a US citizen, that decision should be respected and accepted. So when every attempt is made to catch Trump in anything that could conceivably be twisted into appearing to be a compromised position, that is dirty politics and those executing such maneuvers are not just attacking Donald Trump. They are attacking me, personally, along with about half of the rest of the country. I would hope you would recognize my position on this. We seem, when all the hot-button topics are removed, to be pretty close on most issues. Hopefully the absolute right of the people to choose their leaders is among those.

A cult of personality could also be said to work both ways. When the policies that one espouses or condemns change based on who holds an office, that is also based not on the policies but on the people involved in the politics. That, IMO anyway, is as much a cult of personality as supporting someone for themselves and not for their policies.

I simply see more of this cult of personality attitude on the other side of the political spectrum. Maybe that's normal... but I would have a hard time supporting anyone, Trump included, if they started changing their mind on issues important to me over who is holding which office. But that seems commonplace for the hardened opposition to Donald Trump.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Ahhhhhhh. Cut the guy a little slack here OK?

What? i just watched colbert and Trump said that the death toll "one of the best in world" so death tolls are a competitive sport now? America get's silver for the most recorded deaths yet, that's if you haven't injected yourself with disinfectant to stop this "germ"-that's Trump logic for you.

Over sixty thousand american dead, Australia? less than a hundred. I swear unless people stop this anti lockdown america will not have the personnel or military if china chooses to attack. So go anti lockdown at your own risk.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Good job, now tell me how you would do it better than trump?

If you don't have a solution then you are just like a crybaby kicking and screaming about something they don't understand.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Hey cake. Please re-read that post of mine. I guess that my sarcasm was a little too smooth to be gotten at first blush. You are not the first to miss it as if you look at the stars it garnered you can see that many others did as well.

I see this self quarantine in a way like WW11. Back then the nation was pulled together for a common good. Men joined and conscripted themselves and women all took up jobs in support. Nursing, welding, riveting, everyone pulled together for YEARS with little complaint. People went on limited rations and shared what they had with others. There were ''lights out periods so that any enemy bombers would not have the light to use for target practice.

So now Trump has been over joyed to call himself a war president because we are fighting a war with this virus. We have been called to pull together for the common good once again to save the lives of our citizens. Yet this time many are not willing to give up their fun times. Their dinners at restaurants there gym time, their tattooing and hair cuts because this is all to much for them. In a way I see them crying little babies who cannot even sacrifice a couple of months. And Mr. Whimpy General Trump is telling them oh, go ahead and cry and get back to work so my economy will help me get elected again.

a reply to: buddha

how is obummas staff getting it dude

I watched the news conference and I did not see anything like you are describing.
What I saw and heard was a news person called on, not reply, and the President went to another news person. The one who did not take their turn got upset. Now the question is, did the news person do it on purpose?

originally posted by: daveinats
I watched the news conference and I did not see anything like you are describing.
What I saw and heard was a news person called on, not reply, and the President went to another news person. The one who did not take their turn got upset. Now the question is, did the news person do it on purpose?

My favorite part of this is how these reporters who try to make a spectacle of themselves are doing so at the expense of their fellow journalists. They take up way more time than they should, which is less time other reporters have to ask serious questions. They also embarrass their profession, which is bad for the other reporters.

It's so #ing selfish.

But we're supposed to treat these people like nobility. You know, they defend democracy and stuff.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

cant get much more simple than " why are you making this a competition"

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

cant get much more simple than " why are you making this a competition"

Especially when the people asking that question are actually the ones who made it a competition.

No, their bias and shilling for the Democrats doesn't get much more simple to understand than that.

The constant need for literally every reporter to have a gotcha moment with trump must take its toll.

The question is unbelievably loaded. Why are you bothered with competition when lives are at stake?

You pretending it’s a gotcha moment is exactly what they wanted. You’ve decided it means we are soft? Huh, you might have problems things being soft but that’s exclusive to you. You know doc, they make little blue things that help with that.
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

a reply to: neutronflux

Please by all means point to on the graphs country to country showing where the lockdowns changed the slope of infection and mortality rates.

I can ask you an equally stupid question given the circumstances.

How many people in the US are currently infected?

I'm not getting into the game of translating compiled data when we don't even know the true nature of this disease.