Corona Virus Updates Part 6

Regarding an antibodies blood test. Anyone know what the magnitude of the result indicates?

A colleague had a test done that is considered "reactive" (positive), with a value of 55 BAU/ml. Assuming it is not a false positive, it sounds as if this person has had exposure to COVID, but I've heard of people having values like 500 BAU/ml or even up to ten THOUSAND.

I've been poking around the web, but there seems little information on what the quantity really indicates other than positive or negative reaction. So is 55 high, low, indicative of a mild exposure ... if anyone knows what the number indicates, do tell.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

I guess it would depend on the test and what antibodies they test for since you can test for many different ones based on their target. Timing is an issue, incompetence is an issue, could be many variables.

Here is a paper that goes into pretty deep detail plus has some cutoff values if you’re interested.

www.science.org...

a reply to: steaming

Hey mate so sorry for the long delay I was out of town competing with men Border Collie
in Sheepdog Competition & getting ready for the National Finals. The internet reception was
spotty & I had to keep track of all scores for 3 trials & post on 3 websites just caught up on
that last nite.
So sorry to hear about your wife, been praying for you & your family.
Finally got an update from me friends. Guillain-Barre Syndrome possibly ruled out. She said
he started having issues in Dec 2020 prior to jab. They don't share med issues with anyone so
its tough getting any info. Right now they think Lou Gehrig's Dz. They left the country on Sun
to get stem cells in another supposedly more advanced country & returning this Sun.
I am extremely busy until Nov but will try to be available to provide more info.
I do know that if things do not go well by Christmas he will leave here again to get assisted
Kevorkian since not legal in US. Makes me very sad I really hope he gets answers this week.

Cheers
Ektar

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I'll pass that URL to him. Thanks Doc!

Cheers

What is ivermectin?

ivermectin is a drinking drug developed based on the research of professor satoshi omura of kitasato university, who won the nobel prize in physiology or medicine, and is used all over the world, mainly in african countries, as a special remedy for diseases caused by parasites to cause blindness and swelling of lymphatic vessels.
in japan, it has been approved as a treatment for "scabies", which causes severe itching on the skin, and since experiments using cells resulted in a result that has the effect of suppressing the growth of the new coronavirus last year, research on the efficacy and safety of patients is being promoted in various
countries.

japan: not approved for corona drugs, and investigations into efficacy in clinical trials

ivermectin has been recognized as a treatment for new coronas in some countries in south america, but it has not been approved as a treatment for the new corona in japan, and kitasato university's school corporation "kitasato research institute" has been we conduct doctor-led clinical trials in some patients with mild to moderate oxygen with a blood oxygen value of 95% or more at kitasato university hospital to investigate efficacy and safety.
according to the initial plan, clinical trials of 240 people will be completed by the end of march, but according to the kitasato research institute, only about half of the patients participated as of june due to the successive spread of infection that forced each hospital to give priority to treatment of patients with severe
symptoms.

So keeping it neutral we get this :


IN FEBRUARY, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH (NIH) SAID THAT IVERMECTIN WAS NOT APPROVED AS A TREATMENT FOR VIRAL INFECTIONS, AND MOST OF THE STUDIES REPORTED TO TREAT THE NEW CORONA WERE INCOMPLETELY INFORMED, SUCH AS A SMALL NUMBER OF PATIENTS OR A LACK OF SEVERITY OF THE PATIENT, AND IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONCLUDE WHETHER IT IS EFFECTIVE FOR THE NEW CORONA.

in japan, four drugs have been approved as therapeutic agents for the new corona.

1. remdesibil

2. dexamethasone

3. baricitinib by Lilly & Co.


4. antibody cocktail therapy


in july 2016, antibody cocktail therapy was approved.
it has the effect of suppressing the function of the novel coronavirus by mixing two types of antibodies, "kasilibitimab" and "imdevimab", and administering it with intravenous infusion, and it has been approved as a treatment that can be used in mild patients for the first
time.
it is necessary to administer it early after the onset, but clinical trials conducted overseas have confirmed the effect of reducing the risk of hospitalization and death by about 70%.

a reply to: lostgirl

a reply to: GravitySucks

a reply to: HawkEyi

Thank you, my friends, for the information and well wishes.

It's been a real struggle to find anywhere to get the J&J. In the end I had to give up and accept the Pfizer shot. Everyone I know and work with have had it, and no one has, to date, had adverse effects.

I opted for a dedicated Vaccination Hub and the professionalism was exemplary. First spoke with a doctor for a Q&A to figure out if I could be exempted... I was given the green light and proceeded to the vax bays where another doctor administered the shot. After waiting 15 mins. in a lounge, another green light allows you to leave. In all, in and out in under 25 mins. Admittedly, there was hardly anyone there when I went.

So, about six hours have passed and I'm not feeling anything strange, not even a sore arm. Now I have to wait 14 days to receive a temp Green Pass, which will be valid for 21 days from today. After that, a booster shot is required to make the Green Pass permanent (for about 12 months, I believe).

Unfortunately, I couldn't wait any longer as I wouldn't be able to go to work without the G.P. after October 15th, with the subsequent loss of wages.

So, all in all, only my pride has been hurt today, as I had resisted this for so long. I'm still not totally convinced, but at least I feel I was treated with courtesy, respect and by professions.

I'll post again if there's anything substantial to add about adverse reactions.

Cheers to all

originally posted by: Encia22
...a booster shot is required to make the Green Pass permanent (for about 12 months, I believe).

Unfortunately, I couldn't wait any longer as I wouldn't be able to go to work without the G.P. after October 15th, with the subsequent loss of wages.

Disturbing, but inevitable how after the initial BS from governments about vaccines not being compulsory that this kind of compulsion by means other than law is now fully rolled out and accepted without question by most.

It's a catch 22 scenario that at once allows such widespread manipulation, while simultaneously having an authentic, logical expediency. In other words, it is indeed the correct path if the virus is everything tptb claim and their actions benevolent, yet it is the perfect cover for a culling if that were ever deemed necessary or desirable. Checkmate!

But very glad to hear you're feeling well, Encia

Saw this on the Dr Mercola newsletter CDC Changes the Definition of Vaccines thought if the definition has changed does that mean all legal precedents forcing the vaccine mandates are now null and void as they refer to a different process?


CDC Changes the Definition of Vaccines
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola - Fact Checked
Article censorship drops it in 48 hours

CDC Removes Critical Words From Vaccine Definition
To fully understand the importance of the change, it’s crucial to note that, before the COVID pandemic, the definition of a vaccine had been relatively stable for nearly a couple decades with minor word changes occurring every few years. All through that time the intent of a vaccine — to give you immunity by protecting you from a specific disease — had remained basically the same.

For example, according to an archived snapshot of the CDC’s website, the definition of a vaccine February 24, 2011, was:7

“A product that produces immunity therefore protecting the body from the disease. Vaccines are administered through needle injections, by mouth and by aerosol.”

By July 2015, the wording had changed to:

“A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed in the nose.”

The wording was the same in June 2017 and likewise in June 2019 and June 2020.11 By August 26, 2021,12 however, the definition had changed slightly to add the words “to produce immunity”:13

“A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.”

Then, less than a week later, just days after the FDA gave final approval to Pfizer’s mRNA jab, the definition changed again, September 1, 2021 — this time, significantly. The definition of a vaccine now reads:14

“A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.”

As you’ll note, the second sentence remains the same. It is the first part of the definition that has dramatically changed. In the latest definition, a vaccine:

Is no longer a “product” but instead is a “preparation”
No longer directly stimulates the immune response, but is used to stimulate the system
Does not produce immunity
Stimulates the immune response against diseases, not against a specific disease
No longer protects a person from the disease
These dramatic changes were likely created to allow the CDC, FDA and other governmental agencies to call the genetic therapy experiment being administered worldwide a “vaccine” — while they knew full well the so-called “vaccine” was not created to either produce immunity or prevent transmission of disease. In fact, by any definition of a vaccine in use before 2021, this jab is not a vaccine.

But as the full article is lost in 48 hours his references are

1 CDC September 1, 2021
2, 15, 17, 18, 19 Alex Berenson, A Lawsuit in Three Acts
3, 7 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Immunization the Basics, February 24, 2011
4 Mental Floss, December 22, 2015
5 PLOS|One, 2008; doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0003875
6 Cureus, 2017;9(2)
8 web.archive.org... www.cdc.gov... CDC July 15, 2015
9 web.archive.org... www.cdc.gov... CDC June 27, 2017
10 web.archive.org... www.cdc.gov... CDC June 2019
11 web.archive.org... www.cdc.gov... CDC July 15, 2020
12, 13 web.archive.org... www.cdc.gov...]Wayback Archive August 26, 2021
14, 37 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Immunization the Basics, September 1, 2021
16 Twitter, Alex Berenson
20 Internet Archive, Wayback Machine, Merriam-Webster, Vaccine February 6, 2019
21 Merriam-Webster, Vaccine
22 Federal Trade Commission, August 14, 2020
23, 24, 25, 26, 27 Bulletin of the World Health Organization, 2011;89(7)
28 Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance
29 International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, 2020;56(6)
30 Bitchute, August 20, 2021
31 Cell Discovery, 2020;6(16)
32 Chest, 2021; 159(1)
33 The Maritime Executive, July 15, 2021
34 World Health Organization, June 9, 2020, What is Herd Immunity?
35 World Health Organization, October 15, 2020
36 World Health Organization December 31, 2020
38 Independent, April 12, 2021
39 CDC, July 27, 2021
40, 41 American Institute for Economic Research December 21, 2020
Article censorship drops it in 48 hours
the Wayback Machine links don't copy well sorry

My 16 y/o son had the first Moderna vax with just a sore arm.

He got the second one this past Friday.
Saturday night, he developed a mild fever and chills. Yesterday he was very tired and developed several sores in his mouth.
This morning, he still has the sores, plus he has an extremely sore throat. The sore throat is a warning sign listed for the vaccine.
I placed a call to the pediatrician (where he got the vaccine administered), but they have yet to call me back.

a reply to: butcherguy
Oh no! I hope you hear back from his paediatrician soon and his adverse reaction does not get any worse!
Thinking of you both.
Rainbows
Jane

The interview from Sweden expert

UnHerd spoke to him back in July 2020, when he defended the lack of mask mandates and was hopeful that widespread immunity would protect the Swedes from a bad winter wave — a hope that turned out to be overly optimistic. “Judge me in a year,” he said.

Just over a year later, on the eve of Sweden releasing almost all of its remaining Covid restrictions on September 29th, Freddie Sayers spoke to him again. His message? On the big questions — whether Covid was something we had to live with, whether schools should be shut — he believes he has been vindicated.

As ever, many thanks to Anders for taking the time.

// Timecodes //

00:00 - 01:21- Introduction
01:21 - 03:55 - Was Swedish policy a success?
03:55 - 05:30 - On the vaccine
05:30 - 08:47 - Sweden’s relaxing of restrictions
08:47 - 09:51 - Were you wrong?
09:51 - 13:48 - The Swedish experience
13:48 - 15:10 - How divided are people over Covid policy?
15:10 - 17:56 - ‘Were there moments when you thought, have I got this right?’
17:56 - 19:46 - Worries about future epidemics
19:46 - 20:31 - ‘I’ve had two pandemics. That’s probably at least one too many.’
20:31 - 21:16 - Final thoughts

Quick question;

With vaccine mandates for jobs, entertainment etc are popping up more and more. How long will these mandates last? Do they have an end date attached to them?

I.e. Say in 10 years time, and Covid-19 is but a bad memory, would they still require you to have a covid jab(s)? A jab that may be 10 years old, for something that isn't a threat anymore? Or are these restrictions just temporary i.e. to get us through the next year or so? None of this seems to be mentioned afaik.

Sorry additional question:-
Why are these vaccine mandates/'passports' not including previous infection and natural immunity? I would think local doctors should provide antibody tests, those with anti-bodies could then also apply for such passports, if they wanted to.

originally posted by: doorhandle
Quick question;

With vaccine mandates for jobs, entertainment etc are popping up more and more. How long will these mandates last? Do they have an end date attached to them?

I.e. Say in 10 years time, and Covid-19 is but a bad memory, would they still require you to have a covid jab(s)? A jab that may be 10 years old, for something that isn't a threat anymore? Or are these restrictions just temporary i.e. to get us through the next year or so? None of this seems to be mentioned afaik.

About as temporary as "only 14 days to flatten the curve".

The mandates, the rules, the enforcements, and punishments, will only get worse. They will never give back,willing, any freedoms that we relinquish. Even in the Bible, Pharaoh chased down the slaves he allowed to leave, with every intent of returning them to slavery.

So, I have to say no way that this will be temporary, and it will likely escalate.

Just my opinion.

I've just made a new thread, which I think all who've posted in this one would be interested in:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My son is better today. He felt well enough to go to school. I had him taking Ibuprofen and he ate vitamin C drops by his own decision.
The doctor's nurse called me back and said that he probably had hand foot and mouth disease. I say that is bunk.

a reply to: butcherguy
That is good news that he's better....but foot and mouth????? Seriously???

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: doorhandle

From what I've read, in France and the UK, the "special powers" are re-voted in or out every 3-6 months.
I think Johnson just passed his for the Autumn not too long ago.
I'm not sure if parliament got a say in it though.

Over here it has to be voted in.
Not sure when the next review is.

So what happens when a doctor treats his patients according to science and not ideology

Ontario doctor accused of spreading COVID-19 misinformation barred from providing vaccine, mask exemptions

n addition to barring Phillips from providing exemptions for COVID-19 vaccines and face masks, the college has restricted him from:

Providing exemptions for COVID-19 testing.

Prescribing fluvoxamine, an anti-depressant, and atorvastatin, a medication primarily used to prevent cardiovascular disease, in relation to COVID-19.

doesn't say he's actually done harm only he isn't following the orders from above.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: butcherguy
That is good news that he's better....but foot and mouth????? Seriously???

Rainbows
Jane

Yes, he is 16 y/o, had no rash, no pain in his palms or soles of his feet (normally seen in foot and mouth). They want to blame his symptoms on a disease usually seen in infant/toddlers? The nurse made sure to say three separate times that he was not having a side effect from the vaccine.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: butcherguy
That is good news that he's better....but foot and mouth????? Seriously???

Rainbows
Jane

Yes, he is 16 y/o, had no rash, no pain in his palms or soles of his feet (normally seen in foot and mouth). They want to blame his symptoms on a disease usually seen in infant/toddlers? The nurse made sure to say three separate times that he was not having a side effect from the vaccine.

Hand, foot and mouth. Common in children. Not the same as the cattle thing;

"Hand, Foot, and Mouth Disease | CDC" www.cdc.gov...