We Live in a World Full of Fear and Weak Minded People

a reply to: wwe9112

We've always lived in a world of fear and weak-minded people.

When haven't we?

Our ancestors were fearful of witches, storms, authority, governments, spiders, clowns. . . . the list is endless.

Some overcame their fears and did noble things.

But many, maybe most still were fearful.

The weak-mindedness has gotten worse. We live in an era where math is racist and gender studies is an actual college major. So yeah, we're as dumb or maybe dumber (as a species) as we've always been.


It's our leaders, the ones who manipulate using fear, they are the assholes and opportunists.

And funny enough, they're probably the weakest minds of the species.

a reply to: wwe9112

Yeah I hear you. It's mindblowing to me that there are so many people that are completely debilitated by fear of catching this so called virus.

The craziest part about all of it, is that viruses are not even contagious like they say. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that this virus does not exist, because it does. It has just been described incorrectly.

I have been doing lots of research over the last few weeks since all of this happened and I discovered a few people worth mentioning that can lead anyone else down this rabbit hole. Here's the basic rundown...

Back in the 1800's there was a rivalry between two people. Antoine Béchamp and Aajonus Vonderplaintz.

Poisons in your environment, in your food, in your water, in your air, wherever it is those cause your diseases. Not bacteria, not parasites, not viruses, not fungi, not candida. Those are your friends, they are trying to get rid of damaged tissue from poisons. They are your helpers. You gotta help them. How many people know that viruses aren’t alive? It’s been known in the medical profession for years that you don’t give antibiotics for a virus because they are ineffectual because they’re not alive. They have no nucleus, they are protein parts, there’s no respiration, there’s no functionality, there’s no glandular activity, they are not alive. But what are they? They are soaps, they are solvents, the body makes them to dissolve tissue in your body that are too toxic for your parasites, the bacteria, and the fungus to eat. - Aajonus Vonderplaintz

So alllll of this and viruses aren't even causing anyone to get sick. What's the real reason then?

Also, I wrote a few articles explaining the whole germ theory hoax thing. Also note that because this appears to be true, vaccines can never possibly work...

parentofsociety.com...

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Yeah if I was old and sickly I'd be taking it's a lot more seriously. I see a lot of old boomers at the stores walking around like nothing's happening LOL. Maybe some of them are suicidal it seems like most of them are. But for me I'm 38 relatively healthy no medical problems I haven't changed anything I figure as long as I stay six feet away from everybody and don't let anybody speak into my face I'll be fine. I'm not wearing a mask or any of that crazy stuff LOL. But yeah my step sister is a nurse in Detroit and the things she tells me are pretty frightening for sure. Don't want to wind up ventilator she said if you wind up on one good luck. But yeah and that whole this is The New normal LOL yeah right! Now it's not the new normal there's always been scary diseases that can infect you. And if you listen to the radio every other word is going to be coronavirus it's hilarious the fear-mongering. Oh yeah man I thought I had a hard time getting laid befor this...

a reply to: wwe9112

Sorry to hear about your job. Im not sorry our government did what it did.

Today I worked, which was unexpected. My coworkers and I got to my client's house and saw a woman fighting cancer. Had plenty to live for.

She was TERRIFIED of us when we spoke without masks on a few times. We could kill her. If we are infected and dont wear a mask and gloves 100% of the time and disinfect regularly, we could outright cause her death.

It makes sense when someones literal life is in your hands. If we had it, all we had to do was talk too much in her house, and she would not live past a year.

Many dont get what that feels like. The fear of actual death. Its not a normal fear. Its not even fear. Its the reality of our entire lives made clear for one moment. Its a big moment.

If you were facing death in the world everywhere you go because you have cancer, or any other illness...this pandemic might as well be a zombie apocalypse.

I would have never thought that we were the sort of people to prefer the convenient death of others over the sacrifice required for the preservation of life.

Even if they have one year left...how important to you would your LAST YEAR be and what would it mean to you if it were taken with no other reason than "the economy "

The same economy that was known to enslave us prior is the long missed eden we now revere.

And the economy will be fine eventually. The whole thing was a fabrication and a con. It will just start up again with a few more meaningless trillions in national debt.

If 20+ trillion in debt didnt cause problems then 2 or more on a one off wont either.

Hope things work out for you, me, and everyone.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I gotta agree.. Our tools have changed, but I dont think we have.

However, I think we have been programmed to perceive everything in as myopic a way as possible. Even with this virus, normal infectious disease behavior is all of a sudden.. Not normal.

But, it started long before this, or Trump for that matter (Trump being the previous "focal point"). I think whats unique now is the ability to reach vast percentages of the population with the same manipulation.

I dont believe the results will be good. I mean, they sure havent been up til now. Sure, the manipulation is effective, but those who think they are working towards what they want seem to have become only slightly less shortsighted than those they manipulate.

The inflation will further hurt the lower classes, and those who saved a few $.

a reply to: wwe9112

well OP, sounds like are a potential new leader, of a brave new world, with your fearlessness

unless your a cartoon character, made in two dimensions, then of course, you will feel fear, it's something to do, with being human, and yes, the ecomony will be #ed and the world, is going to get worse, because of this, and it may well, be TPTB, behind this sick, # show, but when you hear of, freinds of freinds, 4 of whom have died, from this, or it's a member of your own family, or yourself, you may find that courage or you may feel fear too

based on many of the comments in this thread, I guess, many of us, are useless anyway, and not worth anything

so carry on

a reply to: DBCowboy

It's our leaders, the ones who manipulate using fear, they are the assholes and opportunists.

Aren't you looking forward to 4 more years of winning and MAGA.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: wwe9112

I think it's more than fear. It's worse than fear. It's cowardice. Which leads to bullying.

Fear is healthy. It is a warning system that can lead you to take necessary and appropriate action to mitigate or eliminate a threat... a danger to your person.

Cowardice is using that healthy fear to exploit, extort and bully others to fill your needs.

Ignorance plays a big role too. Not only because Covid is not well understood. But because people don't know how to take care of themselves in case they do become sick. They do not know how to nurse, nurture and sustain their own health and bodies, so they must rely on others.

Not being able to take care of themselves is central to my frustration with this. So many people could not go into the danger zone if they got covid if we didn't have a medical system with its head up its ass, a system that just stated, "No supplements or diet will help you." This is just NOT TRUE. 50 mg of zinc every day, 5000 iu of vitamin D everyday, BOTH tons of studies showing far better outcomes should you get flu or anything else. RIDICULOUS that the WHO does not "approve". It's because they don't bother studying any of these thing, neither does the medical system. They ignore everything but drugs. And this is irresponsible.

a reply to: thebtheb

Not being able to take care of themselves is central to my frustration with this. So many people could not go into the danger zone if they got covid if we didn't have a medical system with its head up its ass, a system that just stated, "No supplements or diet will help you." This is just NOT TRUE. 50 mg of zinc every day, 5000 iu of vitamin D everyday, BOTH tons of studies showing far better outcomes should you get flu or anything else. RIDICULOUS that the WHO does not "approve". It's because they don't bother studying any of these thing, neither does the medical system. They ignore everything but drugs. And this is irresponsible.

Quoted in full for truth -- thank you for saying it!

I would only add Vitamin C to your list. It has literally been studied, documented and published that Vitamin C can reduce both the severity and duration of symptoms, which necessarily means reducing deaths as well.

And I've been pretty darn pissed at how the benefits are constantly misconstrued in the media and by the medical establishment. Big headline -- "No! Vitamin C does NOT cure the common cold!!!" And never mention the benefits it is KNOWN to provide. And likewise for D and its benefits for the immune system as a whole, as well as zinc. Both well studied and documented.

a reply to: Boadicea

Lets be ultra-clear here too: its VERY well studied. Far beyond what I thought before I started looking into these things.

Vit D alone, specifically for respiratory "stuff," has a lot of papers on PubMed. For now, at least.

Honestly, I think the issue comes in with the western medicine paradigm. Its spectacular for emergency medicine (mostly), but really lacks in actually having patients bodies be healthy every day.

It doesnt even really seem to exist in the paradigm. A lot of this stuff isnt really used as a "cure," though it can be, its used to turn our bodies into mean, lean infectious disease fighting machines ().

I still have some concerns about using 40mg-50mg zinc daily alongside zinc ionophores, for periods over 3-4 months. But, its hard to know which research is comprised, and what isnt. Large doses of Vit A too.. But hey, like anything, should probably use moderation. They arent supposed to do all the work anyway, just support what the body already does. And has done for thousands of years.

Since really diving into this months ago, Ive seen a lot of my own issues clear up. Some are very serious, and still are present, but all the same..

Im pretty disturbed by how people talk about The Vaccine too (capitalized for a reason). Its how doctors are trained, I guess, and that just trickles down. Of course, even remotely questioning such things gets one thrown into the "anti-vaxxer" camp.

Notably, the research into zinc ionophores + zinc in regards to SARS-CoV is almost 2 decades old.

originally posted by: Dharmareturns46
well OP, sounds like are a potential new leader, of a brave new world, with your fearlessness

This isn't about fearlessness. Nor is it necessarily about fear. One can also have a healthy respect for reasonable threats, and take necessary and appropriate precautions.

But I will point out that if/when fear is a factor, it can be channeled in positive or negative ways. And I will just remind you that courage is not courage without fear.

unless your a cartoon character, made in two dimensions, then of course, you will feel fear, it's something to do, with being human, and yes, the ecomony will be #ed and the world, is going to get worse, because of this, and it may well, be TPTB, behind this sick, # show, but when you hear of, freinds of freinds, 4 of whom have died, from this, or it's a member of your own family, or yourself, you may find that courage or you may feel fear too

My uncle and my niece have both been diagnosed with pneumonia, presumed CoV related. Neither have been or will be tested. My uncle is a military vet. My niece is an army wife. I have been very concerned for both. No fear.

based on many of the comments in this thread, I guess, many of us, are useless anyway, and not worth anything

so carry on

To the contrary, those supporting our absolute and inalienable Natural and Constitutional rights are fighting for the individual... you... me... every single one of us... the smallest minority. We are fighting for the best chance to do the best for ourselves.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Boadicea

Lets be ultra-clear here too: its VERY well studied.

Yes, VERY well studied. In fact, far more and far better than most prescription medications.

Far beyond what I thought before I started looking into these things.

You have my respect. So many people have opinions with little knowledge. But the ones who infuriate me are those who should know better, or do know better, but still refuse to acknowledge their benefits, much less shout them from the rooftops. It's becoming clear however, that the political and medical tyrants consider vaccines and synthetic medications superior, and will force them upon all of us.

Vit D alone, specifically for respiratory "stuff," has a lot of papers on PubMed. For now, at least.

Its spectacular for emergency medicine (mostly), but really lacks in actually having patients bodies be healthy every day...

Agreed. We have "sick" care, not "health" care. And that's how too many want it. What's the old saying? "The only thing worse than killing a patient is curing them." Hence the proliferation of treatments that manage conditions.

A lot of this stuff isnt really used as a "cure," though it can be, its used to turn our bodies into mean, lean infectious disease fighting machines (

).

Exactly. The best healthcare is giving your body what it needs to maintain and sustain itself. It's an absolute amazing machine and can do wonders when properly fed and nurtured!

Since really diving into this months ago, Ive seen a lot of my own issues clear up. Some are very serious, and still are present, but all the same.

When using natural healing methods, it takes time and continuity. It took time for the condition to develop, and it will take time to fix itself. What works for some doesn't work for others. I think some conditions have different root causes, which may be why different remedies are required. I'm proud of you for taking such a thoughtful approach -- and impressed. Good for you!

Im pretty disturbed by how people talk about The Vaccine too (capitalized for a reason). Its how doctors are trained, I guess, and that just trickles down. Of course, even remotely questioning such things gets one thrown into the "anti-vaxxer" camp.

Yeah, me too. Some people think it's a done deal, and want the rest of us to think so too. And that's a big fat "nope!" Not by a long shot.

a reply to: Boadicea

Well.. You are one of the people that inspired some of it. So, thank you

Ive been having to rethink my positions on a lot of things. Not necessarily anything I was ardently against, per se, more of an ambivalence from ignorance.

Of course, with my intelligence level, its easy to think I cant be ignorant. Sure, I dont think that directly, and that is why it can be so hard to see. Which is an amusingly stupid tendency lol

Youd think that with the efficacy rates of something like a flu vaccine.. That there wouldnt be so many thinking The Vaccine is such a Gift from God, or that its somehow The Solution to literally all of our problems. But, here we are.

Ill take an effective treatment over a semi-effective vaccine any day. Zinc ionophores + zinc seems to be promising, for a lot of stuff beyond just this too.

Ill keep on going with all the natural stuff though, thats for sure. I also know Im probably a pretty big target during a time like this, so it probably handles a lot of different aspects for me personally.

Thanks for being you!

Personally I think the solution for certain area's is overkill, I agree with some of the measures taken but not all.
All large gatherings shut down and the restriction of travel sure, but stopping people from working and leaving their homes is like cutting an entire arm off, when only the pinky needed to be amputated.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Thank you. You made my day. But you did the work. You get the credit!

a reply to: wwe9112
OP, I agree with you to some level, I do grasp your concern. It seems like a "test".

But and here is the but.

I work in a health care facility for our aging population.
They didn't ask for this, they can not protect them selves, that is our task as caretakers. They worked for decades so I could have the life I have now, they paid a price, going back One-hundred years. Yes we have several.

If this enters our facility because of my carelessness, I could not forgive my self.

I mask up and put gloves on in public, I don't care if this is a "hoax" or a conspiracy.

I don't want to see one single one die due to my "arrogance", my demand of personal freedom.
My personal freedom is not worth it, these people are precious, stars. They gave their life for me.

I live in one of the counties that is classified as the "San Francisco Bay Area". We have a total population of roughly 7.75 million people.

Total number of coronavirus cases in the greater Bay Area: 4,700.

Do the math.

And, after you have done the math, knock it off.

Come to Detroit and you'll get smacked in face with reality. 35 days ago we had zero cases. Today we have 24,000. Cases go up 1000 a day and people are starting to drop dead by the hundreds every day. The death count is suppose to get worse in the coming weeks. Last time I went grocery shopping was 3 weeks ago. I'm practically living off spam and rice. Strawberry jelly is a delicacy in my house. I even quarantine the mail.

I'm the youngest in my family at 43. My mom had lung cancer. They caught it early before it spread. I drove 50 miles round trip every day in the worst traffic imaginable to take her to chemo and radiation. She's cancer free but the treatments damaged her lungs.

My aunt had a liver transplant. She was on deaths door before they found her an organ. She takes drugs to suppress her immune system to keep it from attacking her new organ. That liver transplant cost the tax payers $1,000,000.

My grandmother is 78 and frail. I live with her and take care of her.

I have 2 uncles that have been smoking longer then I've been alive.

You think your the only person having problems. Suck it up your young and you'll rebuild just like everyone else. I'll be happy if I make it out of this alive. I've been smoking 40 cigarettes a day since I was 15.

People are taking precautions like the should be. This isn't the flu and it's not a joke. Where I'm at I feel like I'm living a horror movie.

My mom lost everything she worked her entire life for and so did my aunt and so have I.

You're not the first person to have to rebuilt their life. Instead of pissing and moaning about this be thankful you have your health and a chance to rebuild some day. Nobody wanted this to happen.

a reply to: wwe9112

Ironic, since you yourself stated you have had "rage, anxiety and bleak outlook on life that I've had (not only for most of my life), but it has increased during this whole Pandemic thing." That's what weak minded people do.

Nobody told you, or anyone in your family, to stay in whatever state/city you are in. Democrats tend to be authoritarians, more so with how they all seem to love socialism these days.

My family and I have been prepared for something like this for a long time. It is your fault if you were not "prepping" for something like this. It was an eventuality. You have no one else to blame but yourself.

If you work in I.T. you should be able to find work from home. Be pro-active and look for a job instead of ranting, and blaming everyone but yourself for what is happening to you.